[QUOTE=Timezbrick;46762978]So I'm a bit confused, do I have to buy in if I want to unlock tier 2 US tanks right now? because I really want the other us tanks too :v:[/QUOTE]
Yes, you doo.
You need, at the very least, either [url]https://online.gaijinent.com/story.php?title=War-Thunder_M3A1-Stuart-Starter-Pack-2[/url], or the Grant advanced pack, which is 18 euro.
I wish all sim battles were balanced according to tank date rather than BR just like the historical events are. That's the way the game should be played.
Also I wonder if we will get the T28/T95 for the clappers. After all, we might be getting the Maus already.
>Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress
>>Introduction: 1938
[QUOTE=Natti;46763066]>Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress
>>Introduction: 1938[/QUOTE]
As it turns out, the B-17B did enter service in 1939. But you made me do research on the B-17, where I found this:
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/JB-17G_Engine_Test_Bed.jpg[/t]
Pictured: The worst idea.
[sp]It's an engine testbed. Just happens to be a really silly-looking one.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Natti;46763066]>Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress
>>Introduction: 1938[/QUOTE]
The B-17s introduced in 1938 only had two .303 machine guns on the sides. No tail gun, no top gun, no nose gun, no belly gun. They would be shit
So here I am just unlocking the boosted controls for the Canberra and wondering why it is I never have actually snapped my wings off turning at high speed.
then I run a game with the boosters on and take a small turn at 850km/h, fast, but I've done this before and it's been fine.
Then my wing pops off.
Well fuck the boosters then.
[QUOTE=acds;46763001]I wish all sim battles were balanced according to tank date rather than BR just like the historical events are. That's the way the game should be played.
Also I wonder if we will get the T28/T95 for the clappers. After all, we might be getting the Maus already.[/QUOTE]
Fucking brilliant idea.
I am totally looking towards playing against KV-1s with not a single vehicle capable of penetrating them. Sounds like so much fucking fun.
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Except it's fucking not, and you would end up with queue of nothing but KV-1s at the first bracket, then nothing but Tiger Is in the next one.
Stop imagining things. It wouldn't work.
[editline]21st December 2014[/editline]
As discussed before, Chaffee is a 1944 tank that's objectively worse than the 1942 Sherman, having genuinely no in-game advantage. And that's just within one nation.
Timing of vehicle design, production, and god forbid, introduction of vehicles, is absolutely irrelevant in the game's environment.
Date of introduction isn't even really historically accurate either because a lot of vehicles were used for a huge length of time (A6M[B]2[/B] production occured from 1940 to 1945, F6F was used into the 1960s) or were very limited on introduction (Fw190s didn't hit Russia until very late '42 when they had been in use against Britain since late '41)
So you have something that's neither balanced nor historical and we are back to square one
I have never hated a tank so much as I hate these 105 Shermans
If one so much as glances at me my panzer III's and IV's suffer critical existence failure, and the only thing that pens them beyond very close range are HEAT shells
get something that can blap them like kv-2 or su-122
Put 5 rounds of upgraded BR-350P rounds into the back of a tiger tanks turret, into the back of his engine.
He repairs, turns around, bam, dead.
[IMG]http://i2.minus.com/iAYHU7j1xwRoO.jpg[/IMG]
so this is fair and balanced
difference of scores between tiger and other tanks:
[img]http://i5.minus.com/iL5VHjxWgs2Xk.jpg[/img]
Looked like your team sucks. And why did you let the tiger repair? You could have moved a little bit to put rounds into his flank or something! Maybe even put a different round into the rear of his turret?
[QUOTE=KommradKommisar;46763908]Looked like your team sucks. And why did you let the tiger repair? You could have moved a little bit to put rounds into his flank or something! Maybe even put a different round into the rear of his turret?[/QUOTE]
I put 5 rounds into the turret knocking out loader, commander and others. 4 other tiger tanks were already surrounding me. I do no damage to the side of a tiger tank. A different round would have done nothing.
German tanks are way, way under battle tiered.
How to win Era 3 tank games as USSR:
1) Put Yer-2 into a slot
2) Hopefully do enough damage in your first tank to unlock a plane
3) Equip 1000kg bombs
4) Remove Tiger
With tanks, unless you're using APHE rounds (in dead-center of crew compartments) or fuckhuge HE rounds, [highlight]stop fucking expecting tanks to instantly die when you shoot them.[/highlight]
Focus on disabling the entirety of the crew, and/or the gun barrel if you're unsure of how fast you can kill them.
Dead barrel + dead engine = target practice.
Dead gunner + dead driver = 10 seconds of target practice.
Dead crew = dead tank.
If you "kill" a crew member, the ghost of Christmas fuckyou takes over and lets them keep working, but 'slong as you hurt [I]all the other guys[/I] in some way, you get a kill regardless. This is how you properly fight things like Tigers with 57mm cannons, instead of shooting the same spot multiple times after you've done your damage there.
The only, and [B]ONLY[/B], exception to this is ammo racks. If you locate one and think you can pound it enough, you'll get an instant-kill.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;46763973]How to win Era 3 tank games as USSR:
1) Put Yer-2 into a slot
2) Hopefully do enough damage in your first tank to unlock a plane
3) Equip 1000kg bombs
4) Remove Tiger[/QUOTE]
Not if you're in SB. You only lose as SB as USSR. Oh and I'm not in a kv-2, I'm in a kv-1 zis so, it's 1 battle tier under a tiger. Properly balanced :^)
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[QUOTE=Doom14;46763997]With tanks, unless you're using APHE rounds or fuckhuge HE rounds, [highlight]stop fucking expecting tanks to instantly die when you shoot them.[/highlight]
Focus on disabling the entirety of the crew, and/or the gun barrel if you're unsure of how fast you can kill them.
Dead barrel + dead engine = target practice.
Dead gunner + dead driver = 10 seconds of target practice.
Dead crew = dead tank.
If you "kill" a crew member, the ghost of Christmas fuckyou takes over and lets them keep working, but 'slong as you hurt [I]all the other guys[/I] in some way, you get a kill regardless. This is how you properly fight things like Tigers with 57mm cannons, instead of shooting the same spot multiple times after you've done your damage there.
The only, and [B]ONLY[/B], exception to this is ammo racks. If you locate one and think you can pound it enough, you'll get an instant-kill.[/QUOTE]
I die in one shot in my kv-1 zis against tigers all the time, so. Oh and it's at a distance too, full frontal armor. They can shoot me in the turret and it still kills me in one shot, np.
[QUOTE=Covalent;46764007]I die in one shot in my kv-1 zis against tigers all the time, so. Oh and it's at a distance too, full frontal armor. They can shoot me in the turret and it still kills me in one shot, np.[/QUOTE]
Maybe if you stopped whining and blaming the game, you would start doing things like:
1) Not bringing out a KV-1 ZiS-5 if you keep seeing Tigers and dislike that.
2) Stop engaging (better) heavies frontally, even in another heavy.
3) Take small bit of time to realize that the KV-1 [I]does[/I] actually have a weak frontal turret if you know where to shoot.
4) Actually utilize the fucking armor and module viewer to get an idea of where you should be best shooting rather than applying WoT logic.
Boy, just wait until you get the KV-85 and IS-1. The IS-1 only just got itself some APCR ammo which now makes it a tiny sliver better than a T-34-85 that it's equally matched with; but, as we stated earlier, you actually have to know where to shoot APCR ammo rather than just clicking on tanks.
[QUOTE=Doom14;46764048]Maybe if you stopped whining and blaming the game, you would start doing things like:
1) Not bringing out a KV-1 ZiS-5 if you keep seeing Tigers and dislike that.
2) Stop engaging (better) heavies frontally, even in another heavy.
3) Take small bit of time to realize that the KV-1 [I]does[/I] actually have a weak frontal turret if you know where to shoot.
4) Actually utilize the fucking armor and module viewer to get an idea of where you should be best shooting rather than applying WoT logic.
Boy, just wait until you get the KV-85 and IS-1. The IS-1 only just got itself some APCR ammo which now makes it a tiny sliver better than a T-34-85 that it's equally matched with; but, as we stated earlier, you actually have to know where to shoot APCR ammo rather than just clicking on tanks.[/QUOTE]
Hahah.
1) It's funny because all the tanks that I go against [B]are[/B] Tigers.
2) It's funny that you think flanking can magically work in Simulator Battles.
3) I agree, but the Tiger does not have any weak spots. The viewport maybe, if you get lucky enough.
4) It's funny that you think studying a module viewer to see 'weak spots' on a Tiger.
Image:
[img]http://i3.minus.com/inwvEpx1mnkiQ.jpg[/img]
Notice how everything is green and yellow. The round that the KV-1 ZiS gets cannot penetrate that anything past 10m away.
I'm not using WoT logic. I'm trying to get a game to be balanced.
Off the current topic, but does anyone think the tank packs on steam will go on sale?
Opinions:
The KV-1 is a shitty tank at 3.7 (L-11 is completely terrible imo, like a really slow T-34 1940. You can pierce either side of the mantlet on the turret with the 50mm on the 3.7 Pz 3's without having to use even APCR at ~250m) and 4.7 BR (I don't have any experience with the Zis-5 but I imagine it's a similar story facing Tigers). Historically it was fighting early Pz 3 and 4 (and 2) in 1939 which could do absolutely nothing against it (it and the sudden influx of thousands of T-34s was kind of the reason for the Tiger's existence). I'm not really sure why anyone would want to use either of them.
I'm also of the opinion that the T-34 line (1940-42) and the Pz 3 line (J, L and M) really need to be balanced against each other a bit better. Either raise the BR of the T-34s by 0.3 each (why does the 1942 have a higher BR than the 1941 when the only difference I can see is a different turret and the driver's hatch being thicker?) or/and fix the Pz 3s so that they're all not the same BR despite each one being direct upgrades from the previous model
[QUOTE=Covalent;46764077]Image:
[img]http://i3.minus.com/inwvEpx1mnkiQ.jpg[/img]
Notice how everything is green and yellow. The round that the KV-1 ZiS gets cannot penetrate that anything past 10m away.[/QUOTE]
[B]FRONTAL ARMOR IS BEST ARMOR, DO NOT SHOOT FRONTAL ARMOR[/B]
[QUOTE=TrafficMan;46764375]I'm not really sure why anyone would want to use either of them.
[/QUOTE]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/OAATBqa.jpg[/t]
It might just be a one-trick pony, but it's a hilarious, fun, awesome trick.
I don't like the IS-2
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ZK30Px8z0[/media]
[QUOTE=Covalent;46764077]Hahah.
1) It's funny because all the tanks that I go against [B]are[/B] Tigers.
2) It's funny that you think flanking can magically work in Simulator Battles.
3) I agree, but the Tiger does not have any weak spots. The viewport maybe, if you get lucky enough.
4) It's funny that you think studying a module viewer to see 'weak spots' on a Tiger.
Image:
[img]http://i3.minus.com/inwvEpx1mnkiQ.jpg[/img]
Notice how everything is green and yellow. The round that the KV-1 ZiS gets cannot penetrate that anything past 10m away.
I'm not using WoT logic. I'm trying to get a game to be balanced.[/QUOTE]
Would you please either stop being a shit player, or stop playing WT. I get tired of coming to the thread and seeing you bitch about how you STILL CANT PEN THE FRONT OF THE TIGER with the KV1.
Play a different tank, or stop playing, Jesus tap dancing Christ.
Tbh constantly facing Tigers in KV-1 is unfair and unfun as hell but hearing nothing but this from one poster constantly is indeed annoying.
If you want to kill any tank successfully, aim for his sides. The Tiger I barely has any sloped armor on its sides, and the armor is about 20mm less thick. Stop trying to kill the fucking driver.
[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;46764993]I don't like the IS-2
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ZK30Px8z0[/media][/QUOTE]
Nice f.lux you've got there
[QUOTE=T553412;46765534]If you want to kill any tank successfully, aim for his sides. The Tiger I barely has any sloped armor on its sides, and the armor is about 20mm less thick. Stop trying to kill the fucking driver.[/QUOTE]
Gee extremely useful advice when a wall of 5 tigers approaches and can oneshot you from any direction or distance.
Gaijin best devs.
The gun is loaded, my gunner gets Ko'd and when he gets back up he has to reload the gun.
Good job fucking everything up.
[QUOTE=Havocide;46765282]Would you please either stop being a shit player, or stop playing WT. I get tired of coming to the thread and seeing you bitch about how you STILL CANT PEN THE FRONT OF THE TIGER with the KV1.
Play a different tank, or stop playing, Jesus tap dancing Christ.[/QUOTE]
If it's that much of a trouble:
[img]http://i1.minus.com/iycyZ0nvnuOmi.jpg[/img] :)
[QUOTE=T553412;46765534]If you want to kill any tank successfully, aim for his sides. The Tiger I barely has any sloped armor on its sides, and the armor is about 20mm less thick. Stop trying to kill the fucking driver.[/QUOTE]
Tried it. Don't do any damage, even to the skirt, and below it. The best AP round for KV-1 ZiS does squat.
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