[QUOTE=Timezbrick;44902885]turining into a flaming crashing box [/QUOTE]
sounds like you are performing up to par honestly
[editline]25th May 2014[/editline]
Arcade or real battles?
In case of Real Battles I would either try immediately dropping to the deck and flying as low as you can and hope you won't get spotted, or the exact opposite where you keep your altitude and using it to sprint the fuck away if anybody meets you up there, and drop bombs with precision from high up (impossible against tanks, tho)
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44902906]sounds like you are performing up to par honestly
[editline]25th May 2014[/editline]
Arcade or real battles?
In case of Real Battles I would either try immediately dropping to the deck and flying as low as you can and hope you won't get spotted, or the exact opposite where you keep your altitude and using it to sprint the fuck away if anybody meets you up there, and drop bombs with precision from high up (impossible against tanks, tho)[/QUOTE]
Arcade, I always turn left or right and climb at angle of 10 but I somehow always manage to meat a Yak or anyother plane thats loaded with cannons
I can't give much advice for arade but honestly Wellington is really not a balanced (playable) plane atm imho.
Yeah I've noticed, the low tier wellingtons are better because the chances aren't as big to get wrecked when you fly a tier 3 wellington
Spoilers: All the Wellingtons are functionally identical right now because Gaijin are too lazy to actually put in the differences between them all.
Well The wellington MkIII and MkIV does have 4 guns on the rear turret, the others only have 2
who the fuck said that russians had it bad after the starting era 1 dicking
the KV1 is actually invincible, and I have never seen someone take a hit from an SU-122, they have only ever been one-shot.
I assume it gets better at era 3 when the germans start getting tanks to deal with the slavlord shit
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;44903071]who the fuck said that russians had it bad after the starting era 1 dicking
the KV1 is actually invincible, and I have never seen someone take a hit from an SU-122, they have only ever been one-shot.
I assume it gets better at era 3 when the germans start getting tanks to deal with the slavlord shit[/QUOTE]
No like all tier 3 ruskies have the killeverything 85mm
[QUOTE=Crumpet;44903084]No like all tier 3 ruskies have the killeverything 85mm[/QUOTE]
That can't penetrate Panthers for shit
[QUOTE=Timezbrick;44903034]Well The wellington MkIII and MkIV does have 4 guns on the rear turret, the others only have 2[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter when the gunner dies instantly every time without fail.
I killed the same Panther two times in a row in my IS-2 and
[img]http://i.imgur.com/a0iwlNh.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Shibbey;44903175]It doesn't matter when the gunner dies instantly every time without fail.[/QUOTE]
Well my tail gunner did shoot a yak's wing off once, but that didn't matter really because I was a burning wreck plummeting into earth
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;44903071]who the fuck said that russians had it bad after the starting era 1 dicking
the KV1 is actually invincible, and I have never seen someone take a hit from an SU-122, they have only ever been one-shot.
I assume it gets better at era 3 when the germans start getting tanks to deal with the slavlord shit[/QUOTE]
Era 3 is heavily biased to germany and it evens out in era 4.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;44903071]who the fuck said that russians had it bad after the starting era 1 dicking
the KV1 is actually invincible, and I have never seen someone take a hit from an SU-122, they have only ever been one-shot.
I assume it gets better at era 3 when the germans start getting tanks to deal with the slavlord shit[/QUOTE]
lol
tell that to my kv-1 that gets one shotted every game by Pz IV F2s
[img]https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5174/5482458406_649a9ea9b4_z.jpg[/img]
Got the Panzer 3 ausf L yesterday, really like this thing, although whenever the enemy sneezes in my general direction my loader/gunner gets knocked unconsious.
[QUOTE=Failgrenade;44903932]Whenever the enemy sneezes in my general direction my loader/gunner gets knocked unconsious.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to Warthunder tanks.
When I get into the right turbosperg trance, I am completely unstoppable in the T-34-85.
Just had an Ass River Simulator battle where I killed 5 Tigers and 2 Panthers who all were previously completely undamaged, without taking a single damaging hit myself
Honestly there was a lot of dumb luck (and mainly dumb enemies) involved, but still, bringer of death etc.
[img]http://sinus.cz/~milan/ass_river_t34_rampage.png[/img]
The dumb moments I probably shouldn't have survived aside, here, you can have a look at how good the 85mm is at popping Tigers and Panthers.
[url]http://sinus.cz/~milan/Ass_river_rampage_t34.wrpl[/url]
I'm going to end up with stomach ulcers if I keep playing this SU-122. When tossed into the fray with little armor and gun depression I find it very nonsensical for it to have such a long reload time, for the past hour I've done nothing but hurl myself at Pz4s and Pz3s only to have my gunner faint then be set aflame and killed upon his arousal. Very flustering.
Of course, I'm partly to blame for playing so aggressive but at the same time my gun has no range and I'm not well enough learned to gauge distance.
[QUOTE=snapshot32;44905127]I'm going to end up with stomach ulcers if I keep playing this SU-122. When tossed into the fray with little armor and gun depression I find it very nonsensical for it to have such a long reload time, for the past hour I've done nothing but hurl myself at Pz4s and Pz3s only to have my gunner faint then be set aflame and killed upon his arousal. Very flustering.
Of course, I'm partly to blame for playing so aggressive but at the same time my gun has no range and I'm not well enough learned to gauge distance.[/QUOTE]
You don't get to complain when playing the 122 considering it pretty much one-shots anything it can get its sights on.
[QUOTE=MrWhite;44905196]You don't get to complain when playing the 122 considering it pretty much one-shots anything it can get its sights on.[/QUOTE]
If you say so. Guess I'll chalk my last session up as a learning experience.
[QUOTE=MrWhite;44905196]You don't get to complain when playing the 122 considering it pretty much one-shots anything it can get its sights on.[/QUOTE]
Only with heat ammo.
[QUOTE=snapshot32;44905291]If you say so. Guess I'll chalk my last session up as a learning experience.[/QUOTE]
speaking as a man who regularly gets obliterated by SU122's, there's something you are doing wrong.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;44905492]speaking as a man who regularly gets obliterated by SU122's, there's something you are doing wrong.[/QUOTE]
The problem isn't shooting kids, I do that fairly well provided i'm in close proximity, the problem is getting into a position where I can shoot aforementioned kid accurately and without half my crew engaging in naptime. But yes, I will fully acknowledge that these past experiences are more than likely me being a shitty player I also feel that if a Pz4 can shoot me around 4 times by the time i'm done reloading then maybe I should reload a bit quicker.
[QUOTE=snapshot32;44905529]The problem isn't shooting kids, I do that fairly well provided i'm in close proximity, the problem is getting into a position where I can shoot aforementioned kid accurately and without half my crew engaging in naptime. But yes, I will fully acknowledge that these past experiences are more than likely me being a shitty player I also feel that if a Pz4 can shoot me around 4 times by the time i'm done reloading then maybe I should reload a bit quicker.[/QUOTE]
the difference is the pz4 has to shoot you 4 times to kill you
whatever you shoot at will die, that's the tradeoff
Su-122 is a poor man's KV-2.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;44905579]the difference is the pz4 has to shoot you 4 times to kill you
whatever you shoot at will die, that's the tradeoff[/QUOTE]
You're right, I'm just steamed from being blown up all day. Playing the T34-42 now and it's p.alright I'll stick with this for the time being and go back to the SU122 at some point.
Yep fuck Ground Forces. Tanks getting instantly ammo-racked and killed by these fucking tank-god T-34's, idiot teams not capping points, AI getting in the way, and best of all..[I]spawn-killing. [/I]I just fucking love getting in a fresh tank and a goddamn SU-125 is awaiting my invincibility to disappear so he can fuck me up. None of this is worth it unless I decide to join the glorious Russian Tonks and destroy everyone with stupid tanks. Fucking ridiculous. I don't even know if it'd be worth it to go back to sticking with planes or not.
I'm trying everything but when I'm making sure not to reveal my weak-points and being as careful as can be and still getting instantly destroyed I end up at a complete loss of what to do. Maybe I'll wait for a few patches or balance changes and give it another go but right now it's only frustrating.
Despite everything wrong with War Thunder, it'd be difficult to say it doesn't have promise. I'm excited for whatever Ground Forces is going to be, esp for combined battles, and I'm MORE excited for naval battles. I'm excited just even for more maps.
[QUOTE=Trooper-guy1;44906540]Yep fuck Ground Forces. Tanks getting instantly ammo-racked and killed by these fucking tank-god T-34's, idiot teams not capping points, AI getting in the way, and best of all..[I]spawn-killing. [/I]I just fucking love getting in a fresh tank and a goddamn SU-125 is awaiting my invincibility to disappear so he can fuck me up. None of this is worth it unless I decide to join the glorious Russian Tonks and destroy everyone with stupid tanks. Fucking ridiculous. I don't even know if it'd be worth it to go back to sticking with planes or not.
I'm trying everything but when I'm making sure not to reveal my weak-points and being as careful as can be and still getting instantly destroyed I end up at a complete loss of what to do. Maybe I'll wait for a few patches or balance changes and give it another go but right now it's only frustrating.[/QUOTE]
Armor doesn't work here like it magically did in wot.
[QUOTE=Trooper-guy1;44906540]Yep fuck Ground Forces. Tanks getting instantly ammo-racked and killed by these fucking tank-god T-34's, idiot teams not capping points, AI getting in the way, and best of all..[I]spawn-killing. [/I]I just fucking love getting in a fresh tank and a goddamn SU-125 is awaiting my invincibility to disappear so he can fuck me up. None of this is worth it unless I decide to join the glorious Russian Tonks and destroy everyone with stupid tanks. Fucking ridiculous. I don't even know if it'd be worth it to go back to sticking with planes or not.
I'm trying everything but when I'm making sure not to reveal my weak-points and being as careful as can be and still getting instantly destroyed I end up at a complete loss of what to do. Maybe I'll wait for a few patches or balance changes and give it another go but right now it's only frustrating.[/QUOTE]
I really do not understand how people believe that the mythical "Russian Bias" is in ground forces. At tier 1, I understand that the T-26 is somewhat better than the PZ II because of the 45 MM. The T-50 is also just fucking broken. At tier 2, I always see the Pz IV F2 and the StuG wrecking everything. At tier 3, I feel like everything is somewhat balanced. The Panther and Tiger have higher penetration, and seemingly more accurate guns than the russians do. Meanwhile, it feels like the Russians have mobility at tier 3.
I can't say anything about tier 4 or 5 as I haven't played them, but the first 3 tiers really didn't feel all that bad for grinding Germans.
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