Man, whenever I find myself getting bored or disillusioned with planes, I go back to flying the He-112 A-0. There's just something [i]pure[/i] about blowing planes apart with that gun.
The tanks "Hit!" indicator needs to go. I don't give a fuck if the game thinks I hit. I'm tired of seeing it constantly when I should've done damage.
[QUOTE=Doom14;45247831]The tanks "Hit!" indicator needs to go. I don't give a fuck if the game thinks I hit. I'm tired of seeing it constantly when I should've done damage.[/QUOTE]
The worst is when you pop a SU-whateverthefuck right where the gunner should be and it's just a hit marker. Then you blow up.
[QUOTE=KommradKommisar;45247884]The worst is when you pop a SU-whateverthefuck right where the gunner should be and it's just a hit marker. Then you blow up.[/QUOTE]
If I penetrate a tank with a 50mm+ hole (bonus for APHE) right where the torso of a crew member is, it really shouldn't fucking turn him and all his components "a light tinge of green." The crew member, at least, should turn into "liquified red."
I don't know what wonky dice roll magic saves or anything is going on, but I'd rather then penetration and damage be upped more, than lowered any. I just feel punished for trying to play smart and getting rewarded with "Hit!" and "Component slightly jostled!" as dundershit mc anchor potato shoots my most armored part and catches me on fire in the process.
Lack of Skyknight and Cougar is a bit disappointing, whats with Gaijin and not allowing carrier line to have a swept winged jet?
[QUOTE=O'Neil;45248005]Lack of Skyknight and Cougar is a bit disappointing, whats with Gaijin and not allowing carrier line to have a swept winged jet?[/QUOTE]
This isn't the final tree. This is "high priority to be put in soon as possible" aircraft. And it's not like the US tree suffers from a lack of jets right now.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;45248240]This isn't the final tree. This is "high priority to be put in soon as possible" aircraft. And it's not like the US tree suffers from a lack of jets right now.[/QUOTE]
I was hoping for more night fighters personally, just because night battles are so much fun.
You know guys. we weren't supposed to see this until tomorrow and it isn't posted on either the dev blog or the warthunder front page, and the glaring omission of the B-25s makes me think this isn't actually the final thing we were supposed to see so there [B][I]COULD[/I][/B] be more planes.
[QUOTE=goon165;45248565]You know guys. we weren't supposed to see this until tomorrow and it isn't posted on either the dev blog or the warthunder front page, and the glaring omission of the B-25s makes me think this isn't actually the final thing we were supposed to see so there [B][I]COULD[/I][/B] be more planes.[/QUOTE]
Well, I did pull it straight off their proposed news article, but it doesn't keep it from being a mock-up.
...
They already pulled that article down. Sneaky buggers. :v:
The URL for the image is still [url]http://warthunder.com/upload/image/News/American%20tree/usa_tree_eng-2.jpg[/url] though.
[t]http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/B29-Fifi-550.jpg[/t]
"Bombs: 20,000 lb (9,000 kg) standard loadout."
Yes thank you.
Oh and also, 12 50. machine guns, and maybe even a 20 mm in the tail.
[QUOTE=GussGriswold;45249689][t]http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/B29-Fifi-550.jpg[/t]
"Bombs: 20,000 lb (9,000 kg) standard loadout."
Yes thank you.
Oh and also, 12 50. machine guns, and maybe even a 20 mm in the tail.[/QUOTE]
Potentially Two 50.s AND a 20mm in the tail.
also lol 40 x 500lb bombs (no I can't get over how absurd that is seriously it could take out all the outposts and take a massive chunk out of an airbase by itself, and then you realize you can accurately coordinate 4 of the fucking things in a squad and then HOWEVER MANY OTHERS YOU GET IN MATCHMAKING WITH.)
[sp]also the fact that it will probably be fighting jets is even better for it because jets are all bags of aviation gasoline held together with aluminum foil, and if you get tracking even for a second they're fucking dead.[/sp]
[QUOTE=goon165;45249751]Potentially Two 50.s AND a 20mm in the tail.
also lol 40 x 500lb bombs (no I can't get over how absurd that is seriously it could take out all the outposts and take a massive chunk out of an airbase by itself, and then you realize you accurately coordinate 4 of the fucking things in a squad and then HOWEVER MANY OTHERS YOU GET IN MATCHMAKING WITH.)
[sp]also the fact that it will probably be fighting jets is even better for it because jets are all bags of aviation gasoline held together with aluminum foil.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Suddenly the 50mm Me-262 is making a LOT of sense.
And I swear to god if it doesn't have a cockpit when it gets it.
[img]http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/journalstar.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/6/7b/67b5ec46-21f9-526b-82b3-c44b6b0aeb5d/5067da503330b.preview-620.jpg[/img]
the comfiest bomber cockpit I have ever seen I MEAN FUCK I WANT TO LIVE IN IT.
[img]http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/ep5/escape12.jpg[/img]
Not only me is it?
Pretty sure the Millennium Falcon bridge was actually partially inspired by it. Art imitates life after all.
[QUOTE=goon165;45249808]And I swear to god if it doesn't have a cockpit when it gets it.
[img]http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/journalstar.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/6/7b/67b5ec46-21f9-526b-82b3-c44b6b0aeb5d/5067da503330b.preview-620.jpg[/img]
the comfiest bomber cockpit I have ever seen I MEAN FUCK I WANT TO LIVE IN IT.[/QUOTE]
Looks like the cockpit from those bombers at the beginning of the new Wolfenstein game.
[QUOTE=goon165;45249841]Pretty sure the Millennium Falcon bridge was actually partially inspired by it. Art imitates life after all.[/QUOTE]
The Millennium falcon is designed after a half eaten burger, the cockpit inspired by the B29, and it's engine sound is a slowed down P-51 mustang :v:
[QUOTE=Doom14;45247831]The tanks "Hit!" indicator needs to go. I don't give a fuck if the game thinks I hit. I'm tired of seeing it constantly when I should've done damage.[/QUOTE]
I had that happen earlier in my tiger. A t34/85 tard-rushed me, then parked 10 feet away with his front facing directly at me. I fired an AP round into his drivers hatch got a "Hit!" then he one shotted me to the front.
[QUOTE=Doom14;45246850]I got another present for you guys~ <3
[t]http://warthunder.com/upload/image/News/American tree/usa_tree_eng-2.jpg[/t]
[/QUOTE]
The thing that bothers me the most about this is that there's still no mention of a new topline jet, so even if this is just a priority list, the cl-13 will still be clubbing for quite some time.
[QUOTE=lolburst;45249986]B-29 obviously won't get its full payload but who the hell cares about that, it's the goddamn Superfortress. Only Tu-4 is more horrifying.
Like holy fuck. Fiddy cal railguns are already bad enough, but a reverse-engineered B-29 with twin 23mm Noodleman turrets everywhere? Why.[/QUOTE]
Because the Russians love. LOVE. to overgun things. Now you see, IN AMERICA, we understand this, we also have a love of over equipping things. however we don't focus on simply big guns, we go to town on everything.
Everything.
Hell even the kitchen sink in the White House has "Multi-role capacity." no sir, save no expense and no expense saved, only the most top-shelf, top-of-the-line, state-of-the-art equipment will do for every conceivable situation and purpose we may think to find ourselves in, no matter how slim the chances may seem at the time or under any given administration.
everything and anything, including of course: Fuzzy Dice.
We don't care if we have to have six meetings a month with our twelve design teams to get them in, or have to dodge calls from congress about our "concerning cost overuns", AND I-WE. [I][B]WE[/B][/I] certainly don't care if we have to sacrifice combat effectiveness to get them. [B][I]you get those goddamn Fuzzy Dice in there and you keep'em in there, the lives and well being of our service men and women and our very national pride depend on it.[/I][/B] I mean how would our boys and girls fighting abroad make it through the day without the reassuring thought that they have a big. warm. soft pair of Fuzzy Dice to back them up when the going gets rough? what would the Russians think if we unveiled the newest thing we're gonna use to paint them all red, black, and blue with AND THEN sell to every Nation, two-bit Dictator, and Banana Republic this side of the Berlin Wall and it didn't. have. Fuzzy. Dice?
They'd laugh. and then they'd launch first.
I don't know about you, but I love my country. *lights cigar*
*sharp inhale*
So, do I have you on the Fuzzy Dice? or do I have you on the Fuzzy Dice?
[sp]Anyone who laughed at this post is a Communist[/sp]
[QUOTE=goon165;45250267]
They'd laugh. and then they'd launch first.
[/QUOTE]
:suicide: Too much.
[QUOTE=goon165;45250267]Because the Russians love. LOVE. to overgun things. Now you see, IN AMERICA, we understand this, we also have a love of over equipping things. however we don't focus on simply big guns, we go to town on everything.
Everything.
Hell even the kitchen sink in the White House has "Multi-role capacity." no sir, save no expense and no expense saved, only the most top-shelf, top-of-the-line, state-of-the-art equipment will do for every conceivable situation and purpose we may think to find ourselves in, no matter how slim the chances may seem at the time or under any given administration.
everything and anything, including of course: Fuzzy Dice.
We don't care if we have to have six meetings a month with our twelve design teams to get them in, or have to dodge calls from congress about our "concerning cost overuns", AND I-WE. [I][B]WE[/B][/I] certainly don't care if we have to sacrifice combat effectiveness to get them. [B][I]you get those goddamn Fuzzy Dice in there and you keep'em in there, the lives and well being of our service men and women and our very national pride depend on it.[/I][/B] I mean how would our boys and girls fighting abroad make it through the day without the reassuring thought that they have a big. warm. soft pair of Fuzzy Dice to back them up when the going gets rough? what would the Russians think if we unveiled the newest thing we're gonna use to paint them all red, black, and blue with AND THEN sell to every Nation, two-bit Dictator, and Banana Republic this side of the Berlin Wall and it didn't. have. Fuzzy. Dice?
They'd laugh. and then they'd launch first.
I don't know about you, but I love my country. *lights cigar*
*sharp inhale*
So, do I have you on the Fuzzy Dice? or do I have you on the Fuzzy Dice?
[sp]Anyone who laughed at this post is a Communist[/sp][/QUOTE]
Fuzzy dice are illegal here.
And we don't support nuclear.
And we have almost no military.
And our air force still uses aircraft that would actually be liable to be included in War Thunder and not be OP.
It's official. New Zealand is the Anti-america.
I'm reminded of this:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA[/media]
I wonder if this happens with most American designs.
[sp]I know it's 11 minutes, if you haven't seen it, it's worth it.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Doom14;45250800]I wonder if this happens with most American designs.[/QUOTE]
Hm...well I um... about that.
[t]http://lifeasahuman.com/files/2012/03/f-35.jpg[/t]
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/M16A1_brimob.jpg[/t]
[t]http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsh-weapon-images/Taura-Starfire.jpg[/t]
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/V-22_Osprey_tiltrotor_aircraft.jpg[/t]
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/MGM-51.jpg[/t]
[sp]yes, the tank AND the missile it's firing[/sp]
[QUOTE=goon165;45250912]Hm...well I um... about that.[/QUOTE]
It's so true it hurts.
I thought the M16 was a case of lobbying/other shit pushing a Air Force Rifle - meant to be used on base with constant care, love, attention, and burgers - out into real combat. I know little about gun history though, so I'm sure someone can fill me in and/or blow this concept out.
[QUOTE=Doom14;45250800]I'm reminded of this:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA[/media]
I wonder if this happens with most American designs.
[sp]I know it's 11 minutes, if you haven't seen it, it's worth it.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Then they built the Stryker, which all the troops hate...
[QUOTE=goon165;45250912]Hm...well I um... about that.
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/MGM-51.jpg[/t]
[sp]yes, the tank AND the missile it's firing[/sp][/QUOTE]
Well truth be told, the Sheridan fucking sucked(heavy machine gun rounds could penetrate it's armor, which had a tendency to melt when on fire because it was aluminium) and so did the missiles it fired because they were unreliable as fuck and tended to upset the firing mechanism for the gun which is why the U.S hasn't tried the whole firing ATGMs out of tank barrels thing since then.
The only reason why it was used so much in Vietnam was because it was light enough that it didn't get stuck in mud and it's gun was good for anti-personnel and it could also transported by helicopters and aircraft.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;45251094]Then they built the Stryker, which all the troops hate...[/QUOTE]
I've never heard this before, I thought the Stryker was being well-received although it's not doing so well in Afghanistan.
[QUOTE=Doom14;45250969]It's so true it hurts.
I thought the M16 was a case of lobbying/other shit pushing a Air Force Rifle - meant to be used on base with constant care, love, attention, and burgers - out into real combat. I know little about gun history though, so I'm sure someone can fill me in and/or blow this concept out.[/QUOTE]
It wasn't really pushing an Air Farce rifle, it was that Robert McNamara and his number crunchers decided they could win Vietnam with calculators and decided that lighter ammo meant more ammo = higher volume of fire = more enemy killed.
The military was quite heavily against changing calibers, and they would have shat bricks if the bullpup EM-2 in .280 British was proposed to them.
Look how many years down the road we're looking at bullpups in common use and the evaluation of a 6.5mm or 6.8mm cartridge... The military is the enemy of progress because often times its leaders try to fight today's wars/conflicts with yesterday's tactics and weapons. Look at the beginning of WWII, or even our time in Vietnam; commanders had their heads up their asses thinking "this will be just like the last war..."
[QUOTE=goon165;45250912]Hm...well I um... about that.
[/QUOTE]
This is, however, in contrast to Russian engineering.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/RASPzhP.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ZGy4si5.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ruZEA9I.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/61nSmt1.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/fdp8Wkd.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/gdni7Nw.jpg[/t]
Not to mention the AK.
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;45251139]Well truth be told, the Sheridan fucking sucked(heavy machine gun rounds could penetrate it's armor, which had a tendency to melt when on fire because it was aluminium) and so did the missiles it fired because they were unreliable as fuck and tended to upset the firing mechanism for the gun which is why the U.S hasn't tried the whole firing ATGMs out of tank barrels thing since then.
The only reason why it was used so much in Vietnam was because it was light enough that it didn't get stuck in mud and it's gun was good for anti-personnel and it could also transported by helicopters and aircraft.
I've never heard this before, I thought the Stryker was being well-received?[/QUOTE]
I think it was the other way around, firing the gun knocked out the ATGM firing electronics.
The Stryker is very much like the Bradley, its a troop carrier with 10 different variants, and it can't even really carry troops that well. It has poor off-road capabilities, isn't bomb resistant, can't fire on the move, etc.
[editline]30th June 2014[/editline]
I thought this was the War Thunder thread, not the Coolest/Ugliest Weapons thread...
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