In what situation is it necessary to get drum on Sven? I rarely get it and usually go straight for the core build.
Anyone else getting a bug with the UI Health/Mana bar disappearing at the start of the game since the latest patch? It's happened in 75% of the matches I've both played and spectated so far and the only temp fix is to exit and reconnect.
[QUOTE=SgtWoodsy;40438262]For other Doom players, when do you prefer to level up Lvl Death? I normally don't get it until 10 after I max Devour and Scorched Earth but I'm thinking about grabbing a rank at 4 for ganks.[/QUOTE]
If you plan to skirmish/gank more than jungle/farm lane and allies have some sort of proper Manaregen for you, like 2x Arcanes or KotL. 8 Seconds cooldown is low enough to be a spammable pain, but other laughable thing than Armor is Doom's starting INT and manapool. You can work around that if you eat small camp troll shaman that has heal and manaaura though.
[QUOTE=jechtman;40439840]Anyone else getting a bug with the UI Health/Mana bar disappearing at the start of the game since the latest patch? It's happened in 75% of the matches I've both played and spectated so far and the only temp fix is to exit and reconnect.[/QUOTE]
it only happened when i played bot matches, and that was on the test client
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[QUOTE=mixshifter;40439809]In what situation is it necessary to get drum on Sven? I rarely get it and usually go straight for the core build.[/QUOTE]
drums a good item if you're not playing the team's hard carry
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40439776]enigma and chen and stuff have units to tank creep damage for them
skeleton king is given no such benefits[/QUOTE]
and this is why I always bother the shit out of the people at unsafe lane to gank heroes like axe or lifestealer who decided to jungle
you only invest 150 g on wards at the start, and keep and take a look everytime you see a dot on the minimap
instead
"HEY GUYS I IGNORED THE JUNGLER FOR THE FIRST 15 MINS WE SHOULD REALLY GANK HIM"
then
"WELL I TOLD YOU WE SHOULD HAVE GANKED HIM, GUYS"
and every damn time they ignore my advice of warding as soon as you can and go out for a casual walk to the jungle during the first few minutes
[QUOTE=Quinnjdq;40439640]Doubtful, if that was the case no jungler in the game would be able to do anything unless you mean the fact it's skeleton king that attracts them to his bony ass.[/QUOTE]
Skeleton King starts with pitiful lifesteal so he's perpetually low, no movement speed, no escape, no stun (as you'll be maxing aura and crits to get the damage + lifesteal). It starts even slower than Ursa/Lycan and he doesn't become a junglemaster after a certain point like they do.
[QUOTE=ReLak;40440122]
drums a good item if you're not playing the team's hard carry[/QUOTE]
Drums are [b]always[/b] a good item. The stats and active it gives for the gold makes it one of the most cost-effective items in the game. Armlet is one of the very few things that beats it. If you're the main carry and your farm is going well sure, skip it, but it's a great pickup on almost every hero.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;40440263]
Drums are [b]always[/b] a good item. The stats and active it gives for the gold makes it one of the most cost-effective items in the game. Armlet is one of the very few things that beats it. If you're the main carry and your farm is going well sure, skip it, but it's a great pickup on almost every hero.[/QUOTE]
And thus they either should be nerfed or similar alternative items should be introduced, because it's boring to see Drums pop up on everything, heroes, bear, lane creeps, neutrals, Roshan would get them if he could.
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40439776]enigma and chen and stuff have units to tank creep damage for them
skeleton king is given no such benefits[/QUOTE]
uhh, that had literally no relation to what I said. I was talking about why he would be ganked with such high priority.
[QUOTE=leonthefox;40440201]and this is why I always bother the shit out of the people at unsafe lane to gank heroes like axe or lifestealer who decided to jungle
you only invest 150 g on wards at the start, and keep and take a look everytime you see a dot on the minimap
instead
"HEY GUYS I IGNORED THE JUNGLER FOR THE FIRST 15 MINS WE SHOULD REALLY GANK HIM"
then
"WELL I TOLD YOU WE SHOULD HAVE GANKED HIM, GUYS"
and every damn time they ignore my advice of warding as soon as you can and go out for a casual walk to the jungle during the first few minutes[/QUOTE]
Dark Seer is probably one of the most fun anti-junglers.
"Hey Lifestealer, that camp looks cool, right?
Now watch as it kills you with magic spikes"
or
"Hey Ursa, mind wearing this glowing ball on you while you try to jungle to get me some gold?"
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Also, there really should be an item that's made out of a Wraith Band.
Bracer builds into a Drum
Null builds into a Dagon
Wraith band doesn't build into anything big (Aquila isn't really a big item).
Same with Elvenskin bands, you can only build PT's and a Yasha out of them, while Belt and Robe build up into a lot of different stuff.
[QUOTE=maxumym;40440617]Dark Seer is probably one of the most fun anti-junglers.
"Hey Lifestealer, that camp looks cool, right?
Now watch as it kills you with magic spikes"
or
"Hey Ursa, mind wearing this glowing ball on you while you try to jungle to get me some gold?"
[editline]27th April 2013[/editline]
Also, there really should be an item that's made out of a Wraith Band.
Bracer builds into a Drum
Null builds into a Dagon
Wraith band doesn't build into anything big (Aquila isn't really a big item).
Same with Elvenskin bands, you can only build PT's and a Yasha out of them, while Belt and Robe build up into a lot of different stuff.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps it's to even out agi carries compared to str and int heroes? To have them "go online" later, instead of getting a "midgame agi item" and wrecking face right away?
Yasha is a good enough item, has an easy buildup and provides nice boosts for midgame, not to mention manta. I think it's good as it is.
[IMG]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594750241998333181/13D9777DE462C70D0846F79EB82201FF59143675/1024x640.resizedimage[/IMG]
find the hidden object
[B]Edit:[/B]
even i couldn't find it until i watched it in spec mode
[QUOTE=Kumagoro;40440707]Perhaps it's to even out agi carries compared to str and int heroes? To have them "go online" later, instead of getting a "midgame agi item" and wrecking face right away?
Yasha is a good enough item, has an easy buildup and provides nice boosts for midgame, not to mention manta. I think it's good as it is.[/QUOTE]
More item choices would be awesome though.
Rapier behind the trees.
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[QUOTE=Bordellimies;40440779]More item choices would be awesome though.[/QUOTE]
We have a STR+INT item (Necronomicon), a AGI+INT item (Diffusal Blade), why not a AGI+STR item?
So last night I get back from a night out at about 4am, I'm steaming drunk and I think fuck it ill play some Dota then go to bed. I roll lion because I guess hes pretty easy to play mashed and I was just gonna go hard support and constantly pull and stack to farm. Turns out someone had already called safe lane support so I went mid. When I arrived at mid there was a duo lane of Puck and Invoker, the puck was intentionally feeding and constantly raging in global chat the whole game.
Probably the funniest game of my life, but i'm surprised how playing Dota hammered is actually viable.
[QUOTE=maxumym;40440800]
We have a STR+INT item (Necronomicon), a AGI+INT item (Diffusal Blade), why not a AGI+STR item?[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/b/b4/Sange_and_Yasha_icon.png[/img]
Oh screw you.
There was a discussion on "Why X hero is logically on Radiant/Dire." in either this thread or another, and I have a question.
Why is Dark Seer on dire? Aside from the word Dark being in his name.
[QUOTE=MaxisOp;40440772]
find the hidden object
[/QUOTE]
dropped gem behind the tree?
[QUOTE=maxumym;40440617]Wraith band doesn't build into anything big (Aquila isn't really a big item).[/QUOTE]
What even is the point of Aquila? It's literally just Wraith Band + Basi with no benefits. It's really just a backpack slot saver for items that stop being really anything after about 15 minutes into the game. It's silly.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;40440865]What even is the point of Aquila? It's literally just Wraith Band + Basi with no benefits. It's really just a backpack slot saver for items that stop being really anything after about 15 minutes into the game. It's silly.[/QUOTE]Mate, you get it for the extra backpack space and the early stats. You just described why it's good.
Had a game where it took 17 minutes for first blood to occur.
Was a low scoring game at the end (7-13) after 34 minutes.
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Their entire team quit before 10 minutes because we got a pretty early lead.
I'd be mad pissed too if my team went 0-20 in less than 10 minutse.
[QUOTE=slapdown3;40441556][t]http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad122/slapdown3/2013-04-27_00004_zps4e291aa0.jpg[/t]
Their entire team quit before 10 minutes because we got a pretty early lead.[/QUOTE]
dat necro build... shamefur dispray!
Yeah who buys tangoes when you have a heal tsk tsk tsk
[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;40441589]dat necro build... shamefur dispray![/QUOTE]
I was support necro, didn't really finish my items before sand king left.
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[QUOTE=Chickens!;40441598]Yeah who buys tangoes when you have a heal tsk tsk tsk[/QUOTE]
Someone dropped those tangoes for me. :(
[QUOTE=slapdown3;40441603]I was support necro, didn't really finish my items before sand king left.
[/QUOTE]
max death pulse first, always.
jakiro could've built a meka you could've bought a hood for early game tanking.
[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;40441648]max death pulse first, always.
jakiro could've built a meka you could've bought a hood for early game tanking.[/QUOTE]
We weren't very organized, I think most of the kills were accidents on their part.
Necros second skill is good early mid lane if your getting bottle.
Personally I find it effective against all melee heros.
You know what's funny? People getting their ganks screwed by their own team mates.
[url]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzdo3z_dota-2-screwing-up-your-own-gank-101_videogames#.UXvGiaL-F8E[/url]
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