Dota 2 General Chat XXV - Emergency OP

[coup]

[QUOTE=maxumym;40790823]Personally on the rare occasions where I played Spectre I got one point in dagger for escapes, then maxed Dispersion, then Desolate, then the dagger.[/QUOTE]

I wish there was an 'oh dear jesus no' rating. Dispersion is the LAST thing you want to max, period. A level 7 Spectre with a maxed dispersion is literally only getting like an extra 100~ HP basically; it's a huge waste of your skill points.

[VulpesGrey]

i'm a little late to the party but the heroes i feel like are excellent for new guys:
tusk, tidehunter, venomancer, lina, shadow shaman, ogre magi, lich, witch doctor

some heroes I think beginners can probably play decently when they understand the basics:
sven, dragon knight, centaur, bristleback, sand king, skeleton king, juggernaut, bounty hunter, viper, nyx assassin, jakiro, lion, warlock

heroes they should refrain from picking is just about any others

heroes they must avoid:
io, lone druid, meepo, enchantress, chen, invoker, visage

[NoName-]

Viper is good too, you simply cant fuck up with him.

Unless against a Silencer

[Kumagoro]

If you got some LoL experience, you'll probably love Mirana, too.

[NoName-]

[QUOTE=Kumagoro;40791680]If you got some LoL experience, you'll probably love Mirana, too.[/QUOTE]

I got a friend from LoL who liked Ashe, and asked me if there was somebody like her, i told him Drow and Mirana share some skills, he tried Mirana.

It didnt ended up well.

[suttles]

mirana is a bitch to start with haha

Low as fuck base damage, horrible stat gain.

I honestly think her stats/base damage need tweaking.

[OutOfExile2]

If her base damage and mana pool were a bit better she'd probably be a solid offlaner

[AbeX300]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40791377]i'm a little late to the party but the heroes i feel like are excellent for new guys:
tusk, tidehunter, venomancer, lina, shadow shaman, ogre magi, lich, witch doctor

some heroes I think beginners can probably play decently when they understand the basics:
sven, dragon knight, centaur, bristleback, sand king, skeleton king, juggernaut, bounty hunter, viper, nyx assassin, jakiro, lion, warlock

heroes they should refrain from picking is just about any others

heroes they must avoid:
io, lone druid, meepo, enchantress, chen, invoker, visage[/QUOTE]

Speaking of Invoker, am I the only one who memorized some of the skills by (silly) abbreviations?

QQW - QQ Walk (Ghost Walk)
WWQ - Whirlwind Quest (Tornado)
EWW - (Alacrity) Not sure what's eww about it, though, but it works for me.
WEE - (Chaos Meteor) Because obviously Meteors go [b]WEE[/b]

Then there's Ice Wall and Forge Spirit, memorized by which has more of an element (QQE for ice, QEE for fire), and the rest of the remaining ones like QQQ, WWW, EEE, and QWE are memorized easily for me.

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=AbeX300;40791805]Speaking of Invoker, am I the only one who memorized some of the skills by (silly) abbreviations?

QQW - QQ Walk (Ghost Walk)
WWQ - Whirlwind Quest (Tornado)
EWW - (Alacrity) Not sure what's eww about it, though, but it works for me.
WEE - (Chaos Meteor) Because obviously Meteors go [b]WEE[/b]

Then there's Ice Wall and Forge Spirit, memorized by which has more of an element (QQE for ice, QEE for fire), and the rest of the remaining ones like QQQ, WWW, EEE, and QWE are memorized easily for me.[/QUOTE]

for me alacrity is remembered with "WWE" "The carry is a WWE wrestler"

[Belivo]

EWW = Eww!(Gross) --> Disgusting amount of DPS

[Gar~]

[QUOTE=Suttles;40791765]mirana is a bitch to start with haha

Low as fuck base damage, horrible stat gain.

I honestly think her stats/base damage need tweaking.[/QUOTE]

she has insane early/mid game and shit all late game, you can play her as a support and its much better than playing a carry

[editline]27th May 2013[/editline]

@mirana

[=DarkStar=]

For every carry Venomancer I die a little inside.

From one month to the other, nobody play him like a support. Is sad to see venos only with aquilas, treads and nothing else at the end of the game.

[OutOfExile2]

[QUOTE==DarkStar=;40791854]For every carry Venomancer I die a little inside.

From one month to the other, nobody play him like a support. Is sad to see venos only with aquilas, treads and nothing else at the end of the game.[/QUOTE]

Valve needs to step their recommended item game up

[Bordey]

When I play Invoker, I remember how to EEE when teammates get an enemy low hp, QQQ when I need to catch up to someone and add in QEE when I can duel them, WEE into QWE for teamfight contribution, QQW when I need to run away, and how the fuck do I cast tornado and icewall again..? I always forget those two for some reason.

[owlvano]

[url]http://pastebin.com/2PwK3N7P[/url]
so yeah, here is the poosible 6.78 changelog, sorry if late.
pl is getting nerfed a bit but OMG WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU MAKE TIMPERSAW EVEN MORE POWERFUL???

[Maruhai]

That sounds very fake, but the leaked 6.75 changelog was true so I don't know.

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=owlvano;40791914][url]http://pastebin.com/2PwK3N7P[/url]
so yeah, here is the poosible 6.78 changelog, sorry if late.
pl is getting nerfed a bit but OMG WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU MAKE TIMPERSAW EVEN MORE POWERFUL???[/QUOTE]

we've been over this already
it's fake

[Gar~]

treads shouldn't be recommended on him at all

[owlvano]

also, enrage gives more str. when activated

[ironman17]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40791377]heroes they must avoid:
io, lone druid, meepo, enchantress, chen, invoker, visage[/QUOTE]
Aye; most of those require micro skills, and Io is pretty damn squishy.

[owlvano]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40791931]we've been over this already
it's fake[/QUOTE]

oh, thx for clearing that. it was looking tooo suspicious

[suttles]

[QUOTE=AbeX300;40791805]Speaking of Invoker, am I the only one who memorized some of the skills by (silly) abbreviations?

QQW - QQ Walk (Ghost Walk)
WWQ - Whirlwind Quest (Tornado)
EWW - (Alacrity) Not sure what's eww about it, though, but it works for me.
WEE - (Chaos Meteor) Because obviously Meteors go [b]WEE[/b]

Then there's Ice Wall and Forge Spirit, memorized by which has more of an element (QQE for ice, QEE for fire), and the rest of the remaining ones like QQQ, WWW, EEE, and QWE are memorized easily for me.[/QUOTE]

QQQ - Because they will be crying like hell. (Cold snap)
EEQ - Because forged spirits are scary, and you will go EEEEEK (Forged spirits)
Deafing blast i remember because if something deafens you, it requires a lot. QWE is all 3.

[dual elites]

[QUOTE=AbeX300;40791805]Speaking of Invoker, am I the only one who memorized some of the skills by (silly) abbreviations?

QQW - QQ Walk (Ghost Walk)
WWQ - Whirlwind Quest (Tornado)
EWW - (Alacrity) Not sure what's eww about it, though, but it works for me.
WEE - (Chaos Meteor) Because obviously Meteors go [b]WEE[/b]

Then there's Ice Wall and Forge Spirit, memorized by which has more of an element (QQE for ice, QEE for fire), and the rest of the remaining ones like QQQ, WWW, EEE, and QWE are memorized easily for me.[/QUOTE]

meteor = eew = eewwww my meatball got onto the floor now it's covered in dirt and stuff, gross!
alacrity = wwe = wweeeee gotta go fast
qwe = que? = what? i can't hear you because i'm deaf from this blast!!

[NoName-]

[QUOTE=owlvano;40791914][url]http://pastebin.com/2PwK3N7P[/url]
so yeah, here is the poosible 6.78 changelog, sorry if late.
pl is getting nerfed a bit but OMG WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU MAKE TIMPERSAW EVEN MORE POWERFUL???[/QUOTE]

Fake, notice how none of the Dota 1 heroes arent even listed.

Also Timbersaw powerfull? i dont mean he is a shit hero, but come on, he has a huge weakness wich is when all the T2 go down half of your skills become useless since there is little to none trees on bases/raxes. Other than that he is a good hero.

[=DarkStar=]

[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;40791881]Valve needs to step their recommended item game up[/QUOTE]

Same goes for the battlefury on BH and Vanguard on Viper.

[suttles]

and the lack of proper spelling

[owlvano]

[QUOTE=NoName-;40791963]Fake, notice how none of the Dota 1 heroes arent even listed.

Also Timbersaw powerfull? i dont mean he is a shit hero, but come on, he has a huge weakness wich is when all the T2 go down half of your skills become useless since there is little to none trees on bases/raxes. Other than that he is a good hero.[/QUOTE]
I once tried dagger because of this.
IT WORKED! Also had lots of fun blinking in the fountain and then using timber chain to escape

[Gar~]

[QUOTE=Suttles;40791943]QQQ - Because they will be crying like hell. (Cold snap)
EEQ - Because forged spirits are scary, and you will go EEEEEK (Forged spirits)
Deafing blast i remember because if something deafens you, it requires a lot. QWE is all 3.[/QUOTE]

QWE - your opponents will become foreign and ask "Que?" when they are disabled into oblivion

[OutOfExile2]

[QUOTE=Belivo;40791832]EWW = Eww!(Gross) --> Disgusting amount of DPS[/QUOTE]

Put this on an Alchemist and the enemy team will vomit

[Gar~]

WE build on an invoker

eww void and meatball everyone who is chronoed