is midas a viable item in (lowish level)pubs?
also at what time should you get it
Midas is viable on almost any carry IF (that's a big point here) you can get it before 10 mins.
Although there are heroes you shouldn't get a Midas on even if it's fast, for example Anti-mage, because a fast Battlefury pays off MUCH faster.
[QUOTE=Clio;40814350]is midas a viable item in (lowish level)pubs?
also at what time should you get it[/QUOTE]
If you can get it <10 minutes then it's viable on most carries really - bear in mind it takes nearly 20 minutes before it gives you a gold advantage (although it does also give an exp advantage, especially if used on the big jungle creeps).
After that time it starts to be less worthwhile
I hope a team is going to pull Nightstalker out of their ass at TI3, remember him being picked and banned so often in TI2, and he's only gotten buffs since then including his plus 10 bonus damage buff
Why does my friend fail to realize the brilliance of Battlefury on Sven.
The TI3 prize pool just hit the fourth stretch goal at $2,200,200.
Apparently, some people find Visage to be as "op" and "broken" as Lifestealer, PL and Wisp.
In what possible way is Visage to be considered overpowered?
Gib taunt pls
[QUOTE=Dathedi;40814613]Apparently, some people find Visage to be as "op" and "broken" as Lifestealer, PL and Wisp.
In what possible way is Visage to be considered overpowered?[/QUOTE]
His nuke hurts like a BITCH even when it's just lvl 1, so people go hurr OP nerf plz
[QUOTE=Dathedi;40814613]Apparently, some people find Visage to be as "op" and "broken" as Lifestealer, PL and Wisp.
In what possible way is Visage to be considered overpowered?[/QUOTE]
2much stun nerf pls
[QUOTE=Dathedi;40814613]Apparently, some people find Visage to be as "op" and "broken" as Lifestealer, PL and Wisp.
In what possible way is Visage to be considered overpowered?[/QUOTE]
Grave Chill's attack speed steal was seriously buffed in a last patch to where an enemy carry will be seriously weakened by it.
Essentially your anti-carry of sorts.
His familars have the possibility of stunning for 3 seconds (at max level), and 4.5 seconds with a scepter if he uses the Stone form collectively.
I would assume these reasons (even though Familars are paper and die if you tap them)
Visage is a really fuckin hardcore counter to huskar.
Get ulted, instafill your nuke counter while taking reduced damage from cloak then steal his attack speed and go to town on him.
Also familiars don't get sucked into black hole so they can interrupt it easily.
[QUOTE=Dathedi;40814613]Apparently, some people find Visage to be as "op" and "broken" as Lifestealer, PL and Wisp.
In what possible way is Visage to be considered overpowered?[/QUOTE]
Soul assumption has super low CD and deals massive damage at all levels.
His familiars deal SO MUCH FUCKING DAMAGE, and his right clicks deal SO MUCH FUCKING DAMAGE if you get -armor items.
He has a really good slow that also steals attack speed.
He is immune to magic damage the first 2 stacks of chill.
Also familiar stuns.
Meepo is a cool hero.
What do you even buy end game as Meepo? meka, vlads, scepter, heart, more hearts, another heart, sell mek for heart, HEARTS FOR ALL.
[QUOTE=Joey90;40814409]If you can get it <10 minutes then it's viable on most carries really - bear in mind it takes nearly 20 minutes before it gives you a gold advantage (although it does also give an exp advantage, especially if used on the big jungle creeps).
After that time it starts to be less worthwhile[/QUOTE]
Making a Midas for the gold is a bad idea to be honest. In any case, rarely does a pub game end before minute 45 so you can get away with profit on it even if you build it fairly late, though it does set back your effectiveness back for the next 10 minutes or so.
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[QUOTE=Rarara;40814813]Meepo is a cool hero.
What do you even buy end game as Meepo? meka, vlads, scepter, heart, more hearts, another heart, sell mek for heart, HEARTS FOR ALL.[/QUOTE]
Blink Dagger Travels (or Treads if you can't micro for shit) Heart Aghs Shotgun is generally a good build. Skadi is amusing too, since the stats are fantastic.
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;40814805]I think his Familiars are quite underwhelming for they amount of microing they require compared to what they give since they give out a large bounty and they die really fast. The stun is also pretty lame. But sure, they can be used for scouting and they do deal quite a bit of damage.
Rest of his skill are way more than fine.[/QUOTE]
You kidding? His familiars are the best thing about him (unless you play him in a trilane at which point being aggressive ends in your death).
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=maxumym;40814479]Why does my friend fail to realize the brilliance of Battlefury on Sven.[/QUOTE]
Why the shit would you build it? You already get cleave, they're not additively nor multiplicatively stacked, and you really need a BKB to do shit on Sven.
[QUOTE=Kendra;40814881]
Why the shit would you build it? You already get cleave, they're not additively nor multiplicatively stacked, and you really need a BKB to do shit on Sven.[/QUOTE]
ACTUALLY! it does stacks, you can be Sven with maxed Cleave, a Battlefury and Empower from Magnus and that will stack.
Some pro games ran Battlefury Sven to clean up PL illusions faster, but then again there is better items to get first, besides the problem with Battlefury on most STR heroes is that you lack the attack speed to make it work like other AGI carry heroes like AntiMage.
[QUOTE=NoName-;40815009]ACTUALLY! it does stacks, you can be Sven with maxed Cleave, a Battlefury and Empower from Magnus and that will stack.
Some pro games ran Battlefury Sven to clean up PL illusions faster, but then again there is better items to get first, besides the problem with Battlefury on most STR heroes is that you lack the attack speed to make it work like other AGI carry heroes like AntiMage.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't make them stack with each other though, just independently. So the only scenarios you should consider making it is against a late-game PL, but even then, going BKB first is so more important (unless you have say an Enigma or Magnus, but even then I would prefer something like an Armlet and AC and a BKB, because fuck, Sven needs to hit during his ultimate).
Thanks for the opinions (read: statements) regarding Visage's strong points. It's quite difficult to get a proper grasp of a hero that you enjoy playing but rarely see anyone else play without feeding Familiars like there's no tomorrow.
Also, they never see a Tusk + Undying + Visage trilane coming. Just sayin'.
[QUOTE=Dathedi;40815077]Thanks for the opinions (read: statements) regarding Visage's strong points. It's quite difficult to get a proper grasp of a hero that you enjoy playing but rarely see anyone else play without feeding Familiars like there's no tomorrow.
Also, they never see a Tusk + Undying + Visage trilane coming. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]
Sven Veno Visage trilane.
God that was scary. Still is, really, though both Venoo and Visage have been nerfed by now (Visage quite badly, at that).
leshrac and lina still have their excellent stuns so would a sven lesh/lina + someone else be relevant
I miss this game but I don't want to play untill MM is fixed properly
Where can I find all the animated portraits in the gamefiles? I'd like to extract one to use as like an avatar but I don't even know where to begin.
edit:
nevermind, got it
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40815117]leshrac and lina still have their excellent stuns so would a sven lesh/lina + someone else be relevant[/QUOTE]
If you can coordinate it, sure, but the scary part of the RK/Veno/Visage lane was the guarantee of a kill every time at which point Visage got his 6(7?) familiars out and started killing everyone 1v1.
[QUOTE=Rankzerox;40815177]I miss this game but I don't want to play untill MM is fixed properly[/QUOTE]
Stop blaming matchmaking.
Idiots are on every tier, LoL, Dota; any game that is online competitive, practically.
If something is fun to you, it shouldn't be so that others ruin it that you don't want to partake in it.
here is a suggestion to people who think matchmaking sucks cock: RESET THE QUEUE EVERY FEW MINUTES
the longer the queue goes the more the search range opens up
and that causes people from higher/lower brackets to end up in your game
[editline]preserving ratings[/editline]
don't bother doing this with solo matchmaking though because it's guaranteed to match you either a. with bads against pros or b. with pros against bads
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;40815960]there is nothing wrong with the matchmaking system
valve makes no mistakes
I love half life and Gabe[/QUOTE]
50% isnt fun
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=MaxisOp;40815744]Stop blaming matchmaking.
Idiots are on every tier, LoL, Dota; any game that is online competitive, practically.
If something is fun to you, it shouldn't be so that others ruin it that you don't want to partake in it.[/QUOTE]
But moba-games depend on others as well for making it fun
to me, an average 50% win rate means the system is working well. It means you're being paired with people of mostly the same skill.
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;40816453]to me, an average 50% win rate means the system is working well. It means you're being paired with people of mostly the same skill.[/QUOTE]
"b-b-but I wanna win EVERY GAME :("
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;40816453]to me, an average 50% win rate means the system is working well. It means you're being paired with people of mostly the same skill.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing wrong in having around 50% winrate, it's part of the game to win and lose matches.
If your winrate was like 60 or 70% that wouldn't mean that you're good, that would mean that matchmaking sucks huge donkey balls.
[QUOTE=Rankzerox;40816334]
But moba-games depend on others as well for making it fun[/QUOTE]
It sounds to me like you're one of those kids who think winning is the only to have fun.
Other people are influential to the game experience, yes; they are not however what should be the perpetual thorn in your side.
If randoms are a problem, queue with friends, or even ask the guys and gals on Facepunch here if they want to enter a queue with you.
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