• Dota 2 General Chat XXV - Emergency OP
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Forfeit would be OK if everyone in the team agrees to it, but only if everyone agrees to it. [QUOTE=aydin690;40457740]See, that's an idiotic argument right there. If there's a chance of comeback, then people won't forfeit the game. You guys talk as if as soon as the feature is in people will just give up after first blood. Also, those 'amazing comebacks' are like 0.1% of the games in all random pubs.[/QUOTE] In League, people throw the surrender vote the moment enemy team gets 4 kills, even if the game seems equal. Or even better, one time my team was pushing their rax, enemies had taken only 2 towers, and as I was splitpushing bot my team lost a fight. Immediately afterwards someone wanted to surrender, and every other teammate agreed to it.
[QUOTE=aydin690;40457402]This game would be sooo much better with a forfeit option.[/QUOTE] I can't count how many time I had a comeback in solo. 1/3 of the games goes like that
The reason 99% of the time that comebacks don't happen is purely because people give up. Adding in surrender would only vindicate them.
[QUOTE=Erector Beast;40457736]when do i get my new bracket [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/winstreak1.png[/img][/QUOTE] you'll know you're in it when you receive a 15 game loss streak for example my transition from normal to high bracket before: [quote][url=http://i.imgur.com/h1EwX8O.png][img]http://i.imgur.com/h1EwX8O.png[/img][/url][/quote] after: [quote][url=http://i.imgur.com/9bhV90n.png][img]http://i.imgur.com/9bhV90n.png[/img][/url][/quote]
[QUOTE=aydin690;40457695]All the arguments that people bring up against surrender/forfeit/concede are garbage. If most people on the team think the game is over, then it's over.[/QUOTE] This is true, but just because they think it's over doesn't mean that they couldn't have won. A forfeit button would only ruin it for the people who actually try to win no mater what. If people would just keep trying to win rather than just giving up because the odds are no longer stacked in their favor it would be so much better. So fuck having a forfeit button, we need to have people with indomitable spirits.
I've now twice randomed Drow, and since I hate repicking I stuck with it. Boring fucking matches, even though Drow rapes. I feel dirty now, and besides, I'm a pretty fucking bad Drow player anyway. Which is funnily enough something I take pride in.
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;40457743]Forfeit would be OK if everyone in the team agrees to it, but only if everyone agrees to it. In League, people throw the surrender vote the moment enemy team gets 4 kills, even if the game seems equal. Or even better, one time my team was pushing their rax, enemies had taken only 2 towers, and as I was splitpushing bot my team lost a fight. Immediately afterwards someone wanted to surrender, and every other teammate agreed to it.[/QUOTE] I've played lol and hon and that rarely happened. You only remember that one case because, well, it was a rarity. Now, tell me how many times it was used appropriately.
Does walrus punch crit multiplier takes base damage and extra damage (stuff like desolator or abyssal) or just base damage?
[QUOTE=Perhaps;40457122]How does this "Very High" bracket work? The last game i had in that bracket, i won, by a landslide, yet directly after i am put into high skill level matches. No i wasn't grouped with anyone, was solo queing.[/QUOTE] This happens because it matched you against people who were likely extremely low in their bracket and were subject to getting thrown down a bracket. They do this to verify that these people can't beat people who are a bracket below them.
[QUOTE=aydin690;40457679]I play solo. So, the outcome of at least 40% of the matches is obvious in just ~15 mins. I rather cut my losses there and then and hope i don't get stuck with a bunch of people that refuse to communicate or speak english next game.[/QUOTE] I play solo, All random at that, so by general experience, I should be either insane or begging for forfeit right now, and I aint either. Learn to bare with it, morale is a miraculous thing, so is skill and luck. I am just out of game where in first 10 minutes we were 5:0, Tiny got crushed mid by TA, Kunkka solobot vs Bear and Clap fed first blood, all a setup for "forfeit" and given our Venomancers attitude (and lack of warding for first 20 minutes or so) I assume most of my team would forfeit. We won. 1 Good teamfight can turn things around. 1 Bad death can screw you over. 1 creep more and crucial item would've been made. 1 player breaking enemy's initiation. 1 second. 1 rune What forfeit would bring to the table is reducing amount of games lasting longer than "they should've in theory", essentially eliminating majority of exciting turnarounds, comebacks, underdog moments, truly satisfying victories and base races. Majority, because there are still 5man premades and Tournaments. And I like playing pubs. And I like my pubs with a 1% miracle rate. [editline]28th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=leonthefox;40458123]Does walrus punch crit multiplier takes base damage and extra damage (stuff like desolator or abyssal) or just base damage?[/QUOTE] Works like a crit, so [B]all[/B] the damage.
[QUOTE=aydin690;40457402]This game would be sooo much better with a forfeit option.[/QUOTE] There is already one. If all 5 team members disconnect at the same time you autolose with no abandons.
[QUOTE=Rarara;40458252]There is already one. If all 5 team members disconnect at the same time you autolose with no abandons.[/QUOTE] That requires all player leaving relatively within 1 minute period and is more towards 5 man teams that know that they are against competent people who'll not let them get a comeback or won't drop the ball. It's not really usable in pubs and I assume thats what aydin690 wants.
[QUOTE=aydin690;40457402]This game would be sooo much better with a forfeit option.[/QUOTE] It seems like you're mad at soloing. Take a break like I am currently doing and play [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1263375"]this.[/URL] It's a fast paced moba that isn't nearly as frustrating. And we need more people to spread the word so it gets popular.
I think the US East servers are dead. I got stuck on finding match twice.
US EAST is dead. It is all gone. The serverworld is burning. Just lost a match where I had jakiro first blood :(
I literally just sat down to play Dota and the US East servers are dead? Dammit.
[QUOTE=Unisath;40458641]I literally just sat down to play Dota and the US East servers are dead? Dammit.[/QUOTE] Brazil. Do it. Report back.
Yeah, I tried playing three matches today, wasn't able to complete a single one. First one had an early abandon, and the next two crashed, and when I tried reconnecting, they didn't exist anymore.
Can anyone get into a match right now?
EU though. Had a fun match as AA. So much fun when you use your ult to... Kill 1 player right in front of his fountain Kill a void in chronosphere by using it. or saving teammates. 7 winning spree, with 3 going into the High bracket(used to normal). [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sA8XmWm.png[/IMG] This is going to end not so pretty.
[url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/183702827[/url] haha... 1 hour 32 minute long game our gyro had almost 800 last hits but he started to get bored and fed them fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkinggggggggggggggggg christ
how the fuck do you throw a 1.5 hour game as a gyro vs. a mirana you just fucking kill everybody
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;40459459]how the fuck do you throw a 1.5 hour game as a gyro vs. a mirana you just fucking kill everybody[/QUOTE] Check those builds.. How do you not get a 6 item inventory after 1.5 hour. Bloodstone on axe, no scepter(could be useful if scepter) with that many Lh..
bloodstone axe was funny because he didnt level bh until level 21 [editline]28th April 2013[/editline] no wait , he had it he just NEVER used it.
So, servers are dead or is just my pc being wonky tonight?
[QUOTE=Suttles;40459842]bloodstone axe was funny because he didnt level bh until level 21 [editline]28th April 2013[/editline] no wait , he had it he just NEVER used it.[/QUOTE] maybe he should have bought dagon. god dagon axe is so much fun.
[QUOTE==DarkStar=;40459896]So, servers are dead or is just my pc being wonky tonight?[/QUOTE] Well, US East was in anarchy earlier, but I haven't experienced any problems. Might still be going on for some. Also, is the blue on Sven his skin or a full body suit?
[QUOTE=Dogchow33;40460137]Also, is the blue on Sven his skin or a full body suit?[/QUOTE] with his default helmet you can see some tan colored something on the back of his neck so it's probably just blue attire
Yep; even if he's half-fishman like one of the Marsh family, he at least has humanish skin beneath that armour. As for his head, it's probably mostly-human with the exception of maybe having large fin-ears, if we assume the helmet is an exact fit of his head. Has anyone done art of Sven without his helmet?
[url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/183749046[/url] I'm kinda sad I left this game, I wonder how well the PL would've done if it hadn't been early abandonment.
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