[QUOTE=ned_ballad;40949392]I always held a theory that the more magically inclined an Oglodi, the lighter their skin color. This is why Axe is a deep red, with no magical powers, Disruptor is a lighter purple, as he has magical power, but is still physically strong too, and then Warlock and Lifestealer, both crafty wizards, have white skin.[/QUOTE]
It's more of an Oglodi's way of "Hey, you wanna look badass? Take this ritual!!" -habit.
While most of them accept the ritual, some refuse it in case of Warlock for example.
[QUOTE=Rarara;40950026]I think they should increase Zeus ulti damage by 25 at all levels and make arc lightning apply 20% slow.
And increase his turnrate.
Maybe make lightning stun for 0,25 seconds like Snipers headshot.
The autoattack can stay as the worst autoattack of Dota as long as he has the ability to not die instantly to everything.[/QUOTE]
Minimal damage amps on heroes are not really balance-changes, they are "sweeting up" the pickup for potential competetive players who read the notes and get a hunch to use him.
And 20% slow on Arc Lighniting is basically permaslow on everything, given how much that spell bounces. Even better, the 20% slow by itself would give Zeus little, as it's not enough of a slow to really work when you take into consideration stuff like counter-slows, stuns, leaps, etc.
He is simple, damage god.
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[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;40950232]Timbersaw is so great against Huskar. Pure damage goes through his horseshit resistance and because he is a strength hero, Whirling Death not only damages him but it also lowers his health by 15%.
And [U]Necrolyte [/U]still seems to be useful against him.[/QUOTE]
How ? Reaper's Scythe is magic damage.
[QUOTE=Tokagero;40950260]How ? Reaper's Scythe is magic damage.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but his passive deals hp removal damage, that's the only thing that can counter huskar with Necrolyte for now.
[QUOTE=Tokagero;40950260]How ? Reaper's Scythe is magic damage.[/QUOTE]
Heartstopper will still eat through health. Huskar gets low enough and it'll just finish him off. 1+% HP/sec hurts.
[QUOTE=biodude94566;40950304]Heartstopper will still eat through health. Huskar gets low enough and it'll just finish him off. 1+% HP/sec hurts.[/QUOTE]
Sure, but Huskar has Inner Vitality. It regens really quick later on, easily beats Heartstopper.
[QUOTE=Ignoritus;40949348]He's not balanced- He's one of the worst heroes in the game IMO. His nukes are nice, but one's single target and does nothing but sheer damage (and sight, but that's very situational) and the other does very little damage. When Lightning Bolt is on cooldown, he does nothing but sit there and feel like a moron spamming Q because he has what is arguably the worst rightclicking power in the entire game. Literally all you can do is press Q and W. This means he scales HIDEOUSLY, and frankly he's not even that great early game. I feel like Arc Lightning was supposed to be a substitute for his right click, but by the time he has the mana to spam that thoughtlessly it has become obsolete. I'm fairly sure very few people play him for anything other than his Ult. Zeus might be decent if Arc Lightning cost less mana and he had any sort of disable or slow. Compare this to Lina. She has a straight up AoE Nuke that deals fair damage. She has an AoE nuke with a stun to actually hold people still, and she her passive gives her some reasonable rightclick power while her other abilities are on cooldown.[/QUOTE] Don't forget all the buffs Lina is constantly getting.
If Zeus had his W become a global point target though that would be pretty sweet, imo.
[QUOTE=dass;40950044]Oh
my
god
Just played huskar.
He is nearly indestructable against magic teams. qop ultied right on top of me, and I got no damage. Their whole team was on top of me with magic and bla bla bla, and I only died in the end after taking damage from just about anyone and anything, after killing like 3 or 4.
I must thank my team aswell. Omni saved me many times back there. Fucking awesome game.[/QUOTE]
Huskar is insanely binary now. Against Physical/Pure damage dealers he can't do shit. Against Magic damage dealers he's the God of Death.
If Lina had a good attack animation she'd be OP as hell
[QUOTE=Gar~;40950484]If Lina had a good attack animation she'd be OP as hell[/QUOTE]
Her animation is perfect for harass though. That range.
[QUOTE=Gar~;40950484]If Lina had a good attack animation she'd be OP as hell[/QUOTE]
Well her range and late game passive makes up for that.
I don't know what valve was thinking when coming up with those animations for Lina
how the fuck are they so bad, worst in the game IMO
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;40950430]Huskar is insanely binary now. Against Physical/Pure damage dealers he can't do shit. Against Magic damage dealers he's the God of Death.[/QUOTE]
Same for viper. People just DIE from corrosive skin :v:
I forgot about Viper's buff, I already thought he was powerful enough
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;40950535]I don't know what valve was thinking when coming up with those animations for Lina
how the fuck are they so bad, worst in the game IMO[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't care how slow it was if it didn't look so retarded. She flails an arm and suddenly FIRE!!!! :v:
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;40950390]Don't forget all the buffs Lina is constantly getting.
[B] If Zeus had his W become a global point target though that would be pretty sweet, imo.[/B][/QUOTE]
haha no
That'd be broken beyond belief.
[QUOTE=Gar~;40950740]I forgot about Viper's buff, I already thought he was powerful enough[/QUOTE]
Truth; though do you think he needs some rebalancing?
Pudge's hook is so bullshit, the area that you get hooked in is huge compared to the actual size of the hook.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;40950894]Pudge's hook is so bullshit, the area that you get hooked in is huge compared to the actual size of the hook.[/QUOTE]
if the hook area was the actual size of the hook then it would be really hard to get any hooks.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;40950535]I don't know what valve was thinking when coming up with those animations for Lina
how the fuck are they so bad, worst in the game IMO[/QUOTE]
Clinkz's auto attack is way way worse.
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;40951024]Clinkz's auto attack is way way worse.[/QUOTE]
even more irritating when you're offlane because you will basically never get lasthits
Zeus's is the worst
shit range
shit animation
shit attack speed
shit turn rate
shit movement speed
shit base damage
squishy, has to get close to last hit.
I'm used to last hitting as zeus, but it takes so much time
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;40949392]I always held a theory that the more magically inclined an Oglodi, the lighter their skin color. This is why Axe is a deep red, with no magical powers, Disruptor is a lighter purple, as he has magical power, but is still physically strong too, and then Warlock and Lifestealer, both crafty wizards, have white skin.[/QUOTE]
I read somewhere that at certain age they go through a ritual that turns their skin red, warlock was an outcast so he didn't perform the ritual
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I stole so much int as silencer last match, I think I was like at 20 int, after some ganks/teamfights I check the counter again, it was over 40
I also had forcestaff, aghanim, atos, that is around 45 int :v:
[QUOTE=Coffee;40950906]if the hook area was the actual size of the hook then it would be really hard to get any hooks.[/QUOTE]
good, they need to discourage people from playing him endlessly in pubs
[QUOTE=Gar~;40950740]I forgot about Viper's buff, I already thought he was powerful enough[/QUOTE]
It isn't a HUGE buff, but it certainly helps. Gotta love it when pudge tries to rot you at early game, and gets himself more poison.
[QUOTE=Suttles;40951052]Zeus's is the worst
shit range
shit animation
shit attack speed
shit turn rate
shit movement speed
shit base damage
squishy, has to get close to last hit.
I'm used to last hitting as zeus, but it takes so much time[/QUOTE]
But that makes it epic if you manage to fight somebody as Zeus with your autoattacks.
Or finish off a guy with that epic slow-as-fuck ball of pure energy slowly catching up to them and blowing them to bits.
[QUOTE=ironman17;40950865]Truth; though do you think he needs some rebalancing?[/QUOTE]
He isn't all that powerful.
I'm afraid of huskar though. It's not like he gets extra damage now so I guess nobody should complain about him, right? Although he gets 98% mag resistance while at near death...
I'm honestly surprised Zeus didn't get any changes in the last patch.
[QUOTE=Keychain;40951348]I'm honestly surprised Zeus didn't get any changes in the last patch.[/QUOTE]
Same
I was hoping for a little tweaking on his turn rate.
ES got a tweak on his, why not zeus? :(
[QUOTE=Tokagero;40950260]Minimal damage amps on heroes are not really balance-changes, they are "sweeting up" the pickup for potential competetive players who read the notes and get a hunch to use him.
And 20% slow on Arc Lighniting is basically permaslow on everything, given how much that spell bounces. Even better, the 20% slow by itself would give Zeus little, as it's not enough of a slow to really work when you take into consideration stuff like counter-slows, stuns, leaps, etc.
He is simple, damage god.
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How ? Reaper's Scythe is magic damage.[/QUOTE]
I suggested the 25 damage because I really want it to deal an even 500 damage at level 3.
It hurts me to see 475 damage.
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[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;40950535]I don't know what valve was thinking when coming up with those animations for Lina
how the fuck are they so bad, worst in the game IMO[/QUOTE]
ZEUS?
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[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;40950894]Pudge's hook is so bullshit, the area that you get hooked in is huge compared to the actual size of the hook.[/QUOTE]
If you mean how wide it is, then model fits with hitbox, or might even be bigger than hitbox.
If you mean length, yeah, it hits slightly past the hook tip.
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[QUOTE=Suttles;40951052]Zeus's is the worst
shit range
shit animation
shit attack speed
shit turn rate
shit movement speed
shit base damage
squishy, has to get close to last hit.
I'm used to last hitting as zeus, but it takes so much time[/QUOTE]
His spells have low range too.
They should buff the range on W to 1000 on top of all the other things he needs.
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40951044]even more irritating when you're offlane because you will basically never get lasthits[/QUOTE]
You have your 8 mana arrows of +100000000 damage, kinda offsets it.
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