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The second part is a bit moot, sorry if I followed on the topic pointlessly.
Being "blind to the truth about communication bans" can mean just as well being oblivious to it's flaws, as being ignorant to one's inappropriate deeds being the reason for a ban.
[QUOTE=Tokagero;41025143]The second part is a bit moot, sorry if I followed on the topic pointlessly.
Being "blind to the truth about communication bans" can mean just as well being oblivious to it's flaws, as being ignorant to one's inappropriate deeds being the reason for a ban.[/QUOTE]
The problem is is hard to tell when someone really got a fair communication ban: that is why I would like to see a update for the system. Tells you when you got the report and why (chat, conduct, etc) so you can have a real proof and a way to check if the ban was fair or unfair.
I don't think it would be wise to have something telling you who ban you, that shit would turn into a chaotic mess of reports flying all over the place.
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[editline]13th June 2013[/editline]
But I think we all agree com banned people should not play with non banned users, 10 minutes of nonstop pings and well played! spam ain't something nice for the rest.[/QUOTE]
Ping system needs a god damn cooldown of some sorts. I can withstand shittalk much easier than a constant "ding" noise. However it shouldn't limit actual panic/frantic use of it when it's justifiable, so it's also tricky.
And the ban/nonban pool seems reasonable to a point, however it creaters a couple of significant problems.
Firstly, it splits up the community even further (Server/Language/Mode/Solo-Normal-Team Matchmaking) thus increasing wait-times without guaranteed increase in quality (because you might end up in a game with someone who deserves a communication ban anyway).
Secondly, there's reason why there is communication ban and low priority, separately. To remove someone from general society, is a lot like to imprison someone in some other, specific enviroment. While imprisoned, they are exposed to similar behaviour from peers, which can over time lead to self-criticism and improvements on one's character. However, compare it to the "forced limitation" in the general society. Instead of being exposed to similar misbehaviour and negative chatter, you potentially deal with more "general" talk, some of which are jokes, some of which is strategising (and of course, some of wihch is trashtalk ). The result is the ever-growing feeling of limitation, that other people can chat and you can't. You know why you can't chat and you either envy the others who can, or notice the value of the ability to talk during matches. Especially since chatwheel and pinging is rather lackluster subsidiary. This results in player appreciating their freedom of speech more when they regain it, potentially leading to them taking better care of what they say to not get banned again.
It's simple psychological trick. Instead of cruel punishment you get one that isn't actually that cruel, but more impactful. Like in real life, when your driver's license is taken away and you have to walk places/ask for rides to specific places. You could get used to it, but it's a different matter.
There is the issue of having non-banned players to actually deal with "limited" players and I do believe this will be adressed in form of more tweaks to the chat wheel and pinging system so they are actually a proper subsidiary to speech/writing, so that basic communication is covered but banned player still doesn't get to take part in actual chatter.
[editline]13th June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE==DarkStar=;41025257]The problem is is hard to tell when someone really got a fair communication ban: that is why I would like to see a update for the system. Tells you when you got the report and why (chat, conduct, etc) so you can have a real proof and a way to check if the ban was fair or unfair.
I don't think it would be wise to have something telling you who ban you, that shit would turn into a chaotic mess of reports flying all over the place.[/QUOTE]
I think current way is more Dota-ish way. Burden of knowledge/mechanics behind getting comm-banned are tricky and require reading up on if you want to feel secure about them.
+The general nature of comm bans might prompt people to improve on more layers than just the main reason they got it in the first place. Let's assume someone get's informed about their griefing with abilties or abusing courier. They might cease it, but it will take another set of reports to make them reconsider their language.
At the same time, you have to consider that if you don't know what you were banned for, you don't know what to improve on, but as I've said, it's Dota-ish kind of way. Harsh and hides in code and numbers. It's not an argument to support it, it's rather arbitrary and more of a joke, but we'll have to give this matter time. If Valve notices that people demand the feature and their whatever-staff agrees with that, they might introduce it. Following that ,data analysis would answer for certain wether it's good or not.
[video=youtube;25I_aFUrFPo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25I_aFUrFPo[/video]
I play league quite a bit and couldn't help but notice this looking suspiciously close to Skywrath (just got released today). I'm talking like, down to the talon feet. Only real difference is his weapon. League did this before with their mundo "rageborn" skin, which oddly enough, goes on sale for half-off tomorrow.
woo, i supported in a solo queue and it actually went well(last time i was support medusa...because I randomed before anyone on our team pick and they thought she was a support or some bullshit :V)
We almost threw, kunkka bought a rapier and died.
Helluva fun making a voids day and having him thank me and getting him plenty of kills <3
Snippy snip I'm late
[QUOTE=xBackfire;41025961]League did this before with their mundo "rageborn" skin, which oddly enough, goes on sale for half-off tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
Please don't bring that shit in here. That Mundo skin was a clear homage to Axe.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/1ihaXue.jpg[/IMG]
This is the first time this happens to me, encounter someone on my friend list in a game.
isnt that guy from FP too?
[QUOTE=nmagain;41026964]isnt that guy from FP too?[/QUOTE]
i see him in the "people reading thread" list
First time playing huskar post 6.78
[IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/2r7n0cg.png[/IMG]
Holy fuck huskar is so much more fun now.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiy2AV43gZo"]theme music[/URL]
[QUOTE=Nightfury;41026899][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/1ihaXue.jpg[/IMG]
This is the first time this happens to me, encounter someone on my friend list in a game.[/QUOTE]
It was a very close game too.
[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;41027011]First time playing huskar post 6.78
[IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/2r7n0cg.png[/IMG]
Holy fuck huskar is so much more fun now.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiy2AV43gZo"]theme music[/URL][/QUOTE]
Im not gonna even click the theme song, but im 99% sure its a Space Jam edit isnt it?
Also you didnt got Aghs 1/10 would not dunk
Here's my perspective
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/630783406555340189/1EBBB2345917E07C72CB7C4CF08332E373633E09/[/t]
I remember getting matchmade against friends, they spent the entire game talking shit so i warded their camps and constantly bought detection for their shadow blade natures prophet and ended up making him rage quit
[QUOTE=Keychain;41026580]Please don't bring that shit in here. That Mundo skin was a clear homage to Axe.[/QUOTE]
Hey man, i'm not banging on the skins. I think they're neat. I just thought it would be nice to show everyone that league did it again. Rip-off or homage is hugely opinionated if we don't know the clear motives of riot, either way, it is Dota related (in a vague way). Not trying to turn this into a "fuck LoL" thread. Just chill c:
Man when solo mm works is a fucking miracle made for a save heaven.
Everyone knows what they are doing and cero fucking shittalk for both sides. Worth the 15 minutes waiting to get in a match.
Do you guys think the Morph BAT buff made him overpowered? I played him for the first time in a while this morning and I did really, really well, but that of course doesn't equate to OP. Just wondering what you all think.
[QUOTE=xBackfire;41025961][video=youtube;25I_aFUrFPo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25I_aFUrFPo[/video]
I play league quite a bit and couldn't help but notice this looking suspiciously close to Skywrath (just got released today). I'm talking like, down to the talon feet. Only real difference is his weapon. League did this before with their mundo "rageborn" skin, which oddly enough, goes on sale for half-off tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/malphite-marble.jpg"]Rocked you.[/URL]
[editline] June 12 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=NoShogun;41028186]Do you guys think the Morph BAT buff made him overpowered? I played him for the first time in a while this morning and I did really, really well, but that of course doesn't equate to OP. Just wondering what you all think.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't make him OP, but in my opinion, it brought him back to relevance like he was in the days of 6.74.
First game today, I was silencer and the rest of the team was a gank squad (tiny, wisp, bh and slark) I didn't even need to get last hits.
Also I finally did decent/good as timber, managed to get my mana boots faster than my other times playing him, was about to complete bloodstone, but I died like a retard
It also helped that I was laning agaisnt a solo earth shaker, and I could chain out of fissure if ursa decided to get out of the jungle
[url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/218953564[/url]
[QUOTE=Gar~;41027434]I remember getting matchmade against friends, they spent the entire game talking shit so i warded their camps and constantly bought detection for their shadow blade natures prophet and ended up making him rage quit[/QUOTE]
They sound like really shitty friends :v:
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;41027348]Here's my perspective
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/630783406555340189/1EBBB2345917E07C72CB7C4CF08332E373633E09/[/t][/QUOTE]
Oh hey, I've played against Qwilfish once.
Why is there no necrolyte newspaper image :(
Because he only reads it for the Obituaries.
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[QUOTE=l l;41028641]your what[/QUOTE]
A flail for Bristleback. :v:
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I hate how I can't do this good when I group up with friends
[url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/218971435[/url]
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;41028785]I hate how I can't do this good when I group up with friends
[url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/218971435[/url][/QUOTE]
Story of my life.
Yeah I've been feeling that a lot lately. I don't blame them specifically because I fuck up a lot, but I've had such shitty games with them and I feel like I play better alone.
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;41028785]I hate how I can't do this good when I group up with friends
[url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/218971435[/url][/QUOTE]
i dont like stomp games, ever
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