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is it weird that, out of all five knights, chaos knight is the only one i can't play, despite how really easy he is with basic mana management
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;41077229]is it weird that, out of all five knights, chaos knight is the only one i can't play, despite how really easy he is with basic mana management[/QUOTE] thinking chaos knight has easy mana management issues is probably why you're bad with him he literally cannot sustain using spells at all, and his R uses pretty much all his mana
[QUOTE=xBackfire;41077218]Casting a 1000+ damage nuke every 20 seconds as lion?[/QUOTE] Technically, since Lion's ult is a single target ability, it does less damage overall. If you did your ultimate EXACTLY in the same timeslot, (twice in a 40 second timegap) you'd only do... what, 2050? With Queen's, depending on who or what you hit, you could do something like, 3000 damage (spread among the victims) every 40 seconds. [editline]18th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=dual elites;41077161]lol you really chewed someone out for getting bfury + mjollnir on void? it's a perfectly fine pair of items for him. i mean sure a bkb might have been [I]better[/I] for that matchup but it's not the kind of thing you get really mad at someone over [/QUOTE] As a small disclaimer, despite what he said, he never told me to get a BKB and it slipped my mind. I decided at the point that they actually posed threats in the late game that I could just chrono them and kill them first, so that's why I focused damage and attack speed.
So I decided to take a short venture into dota 2 lounge wow those guys are real cutthroats. Yes, I want your common Juggernaut sword. no, I will not give you 3 rares for it.
Oh man, what a sweet game. [url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/222125733[/url] Everybody was real nice and worked as a team players. Shame it was over in a blink of the eye.
This shit been linked yet? [video=youtube;GSGTXkS1CxQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSGTXkS1CxQ[/video]
Refresher on Pugna is fun, especially when there are mana hungry spells in the other team :v:
I always build both of them. BFury for farming, Mjollnir for damage without taking extra damage like MoM does. Hell if your farm is going swimmingly why wouldn't you? Same benefits as MoM minus lifesteal and none of the downsides.
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/613895110688600625/D3620DCAC173D352C5D6544F88A3F29D825495D1/[/t] Holy shit most favorite game that I also hate in a while. They ran a 4 man gank squad with Natures Prophet mid and it was annoying as hell because I couldn't get any farm. They ended up raxing us mid and it was gg until I got my halberd. Void was basically disabled during his ult and it stayed that way for 30 minutes. I hated the game because my teammates would just not fucking push, but instead chose to chase. Game was in our hands when we were able to win a rosh fight, but no, back to chasing and farming. It was horrendous because even though Void was kept down, the Natures Prophet was still a wrecking ball. If we went to push towers, then it would have been a much easier game. [editline]18th June 2013[/editline] Also Void was a rng god without the butterfly. He dodged 5 of my attacks and the dmg from a stun to escape
[QUOTE=Samiam22;41077318]thinking chaos knight has easy mana management issues is probably why you're bad with him he literally cannot sustain using spells at all, and his R uses pretty much all his mana[/QUOTE] I meant that ck is really straightforward aside from having to deal with mana issues, but knowledge of managing mana usually helps that very problem by a lot [editline]18th June 2013[/editline] when I think about it though the problem is probably in my ability to manage mana, since for a while i played heroes that have, for their sake, non-costly spells, or are good soulring carriers anyway
[IMG]http://puu.sh/3inri[/IMG] Can you tell I'm having a bad night of Dota? [SP]I'm actually doing it, someone please help.[/sp]
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;41076092]is this what we're gonna do are we're gonna do a weird personal discussion in the general chat[/QUOTE] OutOfExile2 Smells funny
[QUOTE=Zoran;41077909][IMG]http://puu.sh/3inri[/IMG] Can you tell I'm having a bad night of Dota? [SP]I'm actually doing it, someone please help.[/sp][/QUOTE] Its kind of a joke between friends to watch Champion spotlights occasionally for no real reason.
[QUOTE=Banned?;41076073]Yeah, I remember you now. You're the Faceless Void that built Battlefury [I]and[/I] Mjollnir. Maybe because it was a fucking waste of money and completely redundant when you could have afforded getting something like a BKB so you didn't get kited by Invoker and Venomancer. But what do I know?[/QUOTE] i cant believe i tried to prove a point to you when you want a void to get a bkb without already having substantial dps items
[QUOTE=Gar~;41077982]i cant believe i tried to prove a point to you when you want a void to get a bkb without already having substantial dps items[/QUOTE] Well, having a BKB right after your farming item (Battlefury or Mjollnir) is usually suggested, it will save your ass in more than a handful of situations allowing you to farm more freely, and it does have a nice small damage buff of it's own. But Faceless doesn't always need one, and if you don't need it right away, don't get it; more DPS is always good. And usually on Faceless you want to get either Battlefury [i]or[/i] Mjollnir, because they're both farming items and other things like Butterfly or Daedalus are much more effective on him. It's not particularly bad to get both on him, but it does hinder you later in the game.
[QUOTE=Zoran;41077909][IMG]http://puu.sh/3inri[/IMG] Can you tell I'm having a bad night of Dota? [SP]I'm actually doing it, someone please help.[/sp][/QUOTE] i actually started playing league when i was on a massive loss streak in dota. aram queue is basically just arcadey deathmatch so it's quite relaxing as a way to come down from dota stress plus I get to roleplay as invoker in chat. "like a match already dim and damp, your team snuffs out" gets some fun reactions from league players!
[QUOTE=Zoran;41077909][IMG]http://puu.sh/3inri[/IMG] Can you tell I'm having a bad night of Dota? [SP]I'm actually doing it, someone please help.[/sp][/QUOTE] I play smite when having a bad day of dota.
[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;41078338]I play smite when having a bad day of dota.[/QUOTE] I do, too, I just sometimes want to play Dota gameplay wise with different pieces of shit to worry about and a different artstyle, y'know?
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;41078129]Well, having a BKB right after your farming item (Battlefury or Mjollnir) is usually suggested, it will save your ass in more than a handful of situations allowing you to farm more freely, and it does have a nice small damage buff of it's own. But Faceless doesn't always need one, and if you don't need it right away, don't get it; more DPS is always good. And usually on Faceless you want to get either Battlefury [i]or[/i] Mjollnir, because they're both farming items and other things like Butterfly or Daedalus are much more effective on him. It's not particularly bad to get both on him, but it does hinder you later in the game.[/QUOTE] I really don't see the problem with getting both BFury ánd Mjollnir though. BFury is a pure farming item yeah, but imo Mjollnir is second only to Butterfly if you want an item for attack speed (Butterfly inching out due to the attack damage and Evasion bonuses). MoM is far too risky especially on someone squishy. Sure Void offsets it partially with Backtrack, but still, a single Lion ult getting through when MoM is active and you're dead.
[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;41078338]I play smite when having a bad day of dota.[/QUOTE] Awesomenauts is a good game too.
[QUOTE=Amaurus;41075271]There's only like 3 or 4 language options.[/QUOTE] It should be reportable if they sign up for english but decide to speak russian or chinese. For people who decide to disagree: Did you forget the part where they can sign up for RUSSIAN or CHINESE instead? They have the ability to sign up for their language of choice and yet they still sign up for english and refuse to speak english, this should definitely be reportable as they could just sign up for their own language.
In the case of legion or abbadon being released tonight/this week, how do you build m? I assume for abaddon semisupport mek into hood into pipe? And legion; threads or phase?, armlet doesnt look bad, but then what?
Abaddon full rape train never take damage kill everything rapier build [editline]18th June 2013[/editline] Agha so you never have to even press buttons just rightclick the enemy like any other carry and make sure to pick up aegis in case for some reason you die
Skeleton King, but with more buttons essentially.
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;41078906]Skeleton King, but with more buttons essentially.[/QUOTE] SK, Abbadon, Dazzle, Huskar, Omniknight Noone dies.
[QUOTE=Zoran;41077909][IMG]http://puu.sh/3inri[/IMG] Can you tell I'm having a bad night of Dota? [SP]I'm actually doing it, someone please help.[/sp][/QUOTE] I actually tried to get into it because my nephew plays it (even though I introduced him to Dota 2 first), but I was immediately put off by the way middle mouse button camera dragging works. Seriously, it works backwards. :v: I've looked around and it looks like there's no way to change it and the developers don't give a shit either. Amazing. Also I only got it to run twice. After that, it would just keep freezing on startup. I think my computer is trying to tell me something.
I checked my statistics on that site, and turns out that if I'm on Dire, my chances to win are much higher than on radiant. 37% winrate on Radiant, 62% on Dire. This feels a bit backwards because I like being on Radiant more.
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;41079143]I will probably build Abaddon the same way I build Dirge; Basilius > Mana Boots > Mek/Hood > Vlads/Pipe > Halberd/AC/Vlads/Sheepstick. Both are very aggressive melee supports so it should work. Soul Ring could also be really nice on him since he has a mad strength gain.[U] [B]Orb of Venom[/B][/U] could also be good even if you aren't willing to sacrifice points from your better skills (don't hurt me) to get your passive. I've also heard you can carry with him, but I wouldn't recommend going past semi-carry.[/QUOTE] Dota 2 Wiki at the moment doesn't state that Frost Sword (Frostmourne) is UAM/Orb effect. However, Dota 1 Wise, Orb of Venom and Frostmourne are both Buff Placers. Dota 2 removed limit of Buff Placers stacking (it was Warcraft 3 Engine limitation according to wiki, not a balance-choice ), so they should work together, making valiable pickup as Abby is a support that gets in enemy's face. Orb of Venom would make following combes with levels of Frost Sword / Frostmourne Level 0 = 12% MS slow + 3 DPS (4seconds) Level 1 = 17% MS slow (after 2.5 seconds down to 12%) + 5% AS slow + Buffs (15% MS + 10% AS for 4.5 seconds) + 3 DPS (4seconds) Level 2 = 22% MS slow (after 2.5 seconds down to 12%) + 10% AS slow + Buffs (15% MS + 20% AS for 4.5 seconds) + 3 DPS (4seconds) Level 3 = 27% MS slow (after 2.5 seconds down to 12%) + 15% AS slow + Buffs (15% MS + 30% AS for 4.5 seconds) + 3 DPS (4seconds) Level 4 = 32% MS slow (after 2.5 seconds down to 12%) + 20% AS slow + Buffs (15% MS + 40% AS for 4.5 seconds) + 3 DPS (4seconds) If Abbadon can keep up against enemy early, with like 1 level of passive and Orb of Venom = 17% slow (which ain't much, but Abby has 310 MS base + gets 15% MS buff and combined with agile/dangerous hero it can help secure a kill). Later on, this is rather scary as 32% slow + buffs from support right-clicking someone, and it's a support who can live with his 2.7 STR Growth + Borrowed Time + Apothic Shield. So if things stay consistent, Orb of Venom on Abaddon is very much a good idea when combined with Frost Sword.
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;41079304]I checked my statistics on that site, and turns out that if I'm on Dire, my chances to win are much higher than on radiant. 37% winrate on Radiant, 62% on Dire. This feels a bit backwards because I like being on Radiant more.[/QUOTE] Nah it sounds like you just like losing.
[QUOTE=Quinnjdq;41077943]Its kind of a joke between friends to watch Champion spotlights occasionally for no real reason.[/QUOTE] I remember watching a video of some league commentator fucking, exploding at a huge play, maybe LoL works differently, but all that happened was some guy attacked someone for a bit and walked away.
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