Elder Titan and Dazzle are probably my favorite heroes by far. Had a game as Elder that wrecked shit, even though I went 3/9/31. Love every bit of him
[QUOTE=Samiam22;41162942]What?
....
How?[/QUOTE]
sniper p much never harassed, denied, and let me get all the runes so i could harass him constantly with fissures
also didn't bring regen so he had to go back to base twice
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Aura Support Jugg. Hue hue
[QUOTE=Rarara;41162143]If we removed based on how annoying and unfun they are, Nyx, TA and probably Slark should be gone forever.
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Slark is the only one of these 3 I'd agree with. TA gets shit on by Batskater, and Nyx is countered by a Gem and 5manning. Slark's purge however is complete and utter fucking bullshit with an effective downtime of 3,5 seconds and the fact it purges almost anything.
[QUOTE=dill6869;41162368]ever had a mid earthshaker outlane a sniper?
yeah[/QUOTE]
Last night our Sand King lost mid to Pudge. At least Earthshakur has his Great Wall of China he can poke Sniper with.
[QUOTE=Gar~;41162457]apparently a naix with an armlet and basher 1 can beat a morphling with a manta, skadi and butterfly. witnessed it the other day, i'm still really annoyed that it comes to that
if it were up to me i'd pump the cooldown of rage by at least 10 seconds. He ALWAYS has rage. It's like Gyro's Flak Cannon having a cooldown of 10 seconds. Go to gank him? Rage/infest. Fighting? He's now magic immune and has a bajillion attack speed. If he's about to die, he'll just infest and come out with full health while you guys have nothing. And he doesn't even need a significant amount of farm to do so[/QUOTE]
It's not just Rage though. Naix has very high base damage and high base movement speed so even without items he can dish out a TON of damage.
yeah but a base damage nerf would just turn him into the next morphling
[QUOTE=Nestophales;41162602]I like denying myself with bloodstone and then seeing the <3 in my blood pool. They should add a feature that checks in a 1000 range radius for friendly heroes. If none are present the <3 should change to a giant middle finger.[/QUOTE]
Skeleton Kings old ult icon was a middle finger, laughed so hard when I first saw it. I wish they kept that.
[QUOTE=Gar~;41163258]yeah but a base damage nerf would just turn him into the next morphling[/QUOTE]
A 70% slow at all levels, excellent non-orb lifesteal and a powerful steroid. I highly doubt nerfing his damage would make much of an impact.
[QUOTE=Gar~;41163258]yeah but a base damage nerf would just turn him into the next morphling[/QUOTE]
His attacks kill his mana quickly though. Once it runs out...then he's just another sitting duck ready for ganking.
[QUOTE=dill6869;41162368]ever had a mid earthshaker outlane a sniper?
yeah[/QUOTE]
If you get a soul ring as Milkshaker then you can put a wall on his face, 3 every minute.
Sniper is a squishy fucker who gets shit on by walls.
[QUOTE=nmagain;41159249]To be honest [I]that[/I][U]sprite[/U] is One Of The Best streamers i have EVEr seen in my life. [url]www.twitch.tv/onecanofsprite[/url][/QUOTE]
this guy knows what's up
viper is such a piece of shit
I'll say it and say it again: "Mid Game Hero" seems to be an excuse for "yes its bullshit deal with it"
you have to have the patience of a saint to play against a viper and not scream bullshit.
Is Diffusal Blade gotten on Lifestealer often? I think it's a great item I've tried it once and I want to try it more, get the excellent lifesteal along with the mana burn, can melt people quickly with his fast attack speed
why not just buy a better diffusal blade carrier like naga/spectre?
[QUOTE=Gar~;41163732]why not just buy a better diffusal blade carrier like naga/spectre?[/QUOTE]
They are so expensive.
They take paid each hour y'know.
[QUOTE=Jrock455;41163649]Is Diffusal Blade gotten on Lifestealer often? I think it's a great item I've tried it once and I want to try it more, get the excellent lifesteal along with the mana burn, can melt people quickly with his fast attack speed[/QUOTE]
Interesting idea, but I'd still prefer Desolator.
Diffusal Naix is the most horrifying thing ever. You're NEVER escaping the fucker and you'll NEVER have enough mana to stun him when he's out of Rage.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;41163251]It's not just Rage though. Naix has very high base damage and high base movement speed so even without items he can dish out a TON of damage.[/QUOTE]
Feast just does way too much damage, it's an absolutely absurd skill, and the "just don't build tanky" idea falls apart when he has damage items, and just bitchslaps you anyway.
Burn Naix's mana, problem solved.
99% of the time he won't build BKB and if he can't rage/infest he's fucking easy to kill.
his spells are pretty damn cheap for what they do
[QUOTE=Gar~;41163952]his spells are pretty damn cheap for what they do[/QUOTE]
And his int gain isn't all that bad either.
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[QUOTE=ThatSprite;41163616]I'll say it and say it again: "Mid Game Hero" seems to be an excuse for "yes its bullshit deal with it"
you have to have the patience of a saint to play against a viper and not scream bullshit.[/QUOTE]
well
the bullshit heroes generally tend to dominate at 1v1
nyx
spirit breaker
viper
drow(i know shes shit now, but her 1v1 is good if you lack a distance closer...60% fucking slow for 12 mana.)
venomancer(He's going to win, and even if you do kill him all his DOTS will fuck you over.)
Naix (You can't run, you can only fight. But if you fight hes going to just heal off you.)
Special mentions to Gyro, Death Prophet, and Lesh. They aren't really bullshit, but their 1v1 is amazing because of how their spells work.
Gyro is just ridiculous, I played Gyro mid and a Mirana still managed to feed me first blood after hitting a 5 second stun on me
FUCK THE NEW HUSKAR
He's not truly overpowered but he's so insanely polarised that you win or lose depending on whether you've got 1-2 heroes who counter him. If you do, he's not going to do shit. If you don't, you're not going to do shit because he's utterly impossible to kill with magic damage and 85% of the heroes don't have anywhere NEAR the required amount of physical/pure damage to kill him.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;41163251]
It's not just Rage though. Naix has very high base damage and high base movement speed so even without items he can dish out a TON of damage.[/QUOTE]
it's more that all of naix's abilities replace items
he doesn't need bkb because of rage, and to be effective in the mid game he doesn't need to build attack speed because rage
he doesn't need damage items because of his passive, he doesn't need basher or anything mid game because open wounds
and he doesn't need an escape because infesting an enemy creep makes you instantly escape unless you're unlucky and it drops below 50% hp
[QUOTE=Rarara;41160828]People with names/avatars like that are just bad trolls.
They are trying very hard to look like they are trolling someone when in actuality they are only trolling themselves.[/QUOTE]
ha ha are u mad?? U MAD??? PLEASE BE MAD OH GOD I DONT WANT TO FEEL LIKE A WASTE JUST BE MAD PLEAAAASE
[editline]24th June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;41164787]FUCK THE NEW HUSKAR
He's not truly overpowered but he's so insanely polarised that you win or lose depending on whether you've got 1-2 heroes who counter him. If you do, he's not going to do shit. If you don't, you're not going to do shit because he's utterly impossible to kill with magic damage and 85% of the heroes don't have anywhere NEAR the required amount of physical/pure damage to kill him.[/QUOTE]
1v1 him with Dragon or Chaos Knight.
You just need someone with the longest stun and lots of auto-attacking power to kill him.
[QUOTE=Viper202;41164966]
1v1 him with Dragon or Chaos Knight.
You just need someone with the longest stun and lots of auto-attacking power to kill him.[/QUOTE]
We 1v3'd him. Leshrac, Shadow Demon and Chaos Knight. He won.
[QUOTE=Suttles;41155564]a natures on our team did this
midas -- > rapier -- > rapier -- > rapier -- > rapier -- > rapier -- > rapier(sold midas)
it was so great[/QUOTE]
I've done that before on Nature's, Weaver, and Medusa. It's a legit build on all of them, IMO.
You just punish the enemy team for really lacking any synergy or lockdown. Or just play pussy-prophet and never die.
You guys and your complaints about N'aix. Troll Warlord still eats him up even if N'aix has the level lead.
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