Dota 2 General Chat XXV - Emergency OP

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=dual elites;40503096]for that ~sick double ult~, i see a lot of pubbie ODs building it if they're stomping[/QUOTE]

actually i see them rush it after aghanims consistently and it's dumb as fuck and don't build refresher or aghs on OD unless the score difference is 50000 (yours) to 0 (theirs)

[shaotek]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40503115]actually i see them rush it after aghanims consistently and it's dumb as fuck and don't build refresher or aghs on OD unless the score difference is 50000 (yours) to 0 (theirs)[/QUOTE]

aghs on OD euugughgh

[Quinnjdq]

Weird, I play OD a good amount yet I have never considered AGHS, if you are stomping big time a Refresher is great as it lets you do a really big two ulti which is near on a sync'd cooldown but more int like a Shivas or a Sheep is very great.

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=Quinnjdq;40503175]Weird, I play OD a good amount yet I have never considered AGHS, if you are stomping big time a Refresher is great as it lets you do a really big two ulti which is near on a sync'd cooldown but more int like a Shivas or a Sheep is very great.[/QUOTE]

aghs and refresher are both terrible on od (with refresher being the less dumb choice but there are still way more smarter choices)

[dual elites]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40503115]actually i see them rush it after aghanims consistently and it's dumb as fuck and don't build refresher or aghs on OD unless the score difference is 50000 (yours) to 0 (theirs)[/QUOTE]

hence stomping

and yeah aghs fucking sucks on him, even worse than necro's

[shaotek]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40503223]aghs and refresher are both terrible on od (with refresher being the less dumb choice but there are still way more smarter choices)[/QUOTE]

Refresher is a great luxury item for OD especially if they have a super tanky team.

[Sammun]

[QUOTE=Harpie;40501291]He's an amalgamation of "walking ult" and "kill this hero first"

I bet he's going to be like Magnus in pubs and nobody will know how to build him for a month at first[/QUOTE]

If by a month you mean, until he gets picked in comp, then sure

[editline]2nd May 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Belivo;40501938]He isn't reliant on items at all though, he only needs some mana and he's set up well.
After Arcane Boots you can go whatever you want basically, but support-ish items should work the best on him.[/QUOTE]

I was told to build stuff like shiva's guard or AC on him
Now i'm considering getting a euls or a mek before that

[nmagain]

if eldertitan and his spirit and both echostomping, and the titan gets stunned mid-animation, does the spirit's stomp get interrupted too?

[Sammun]

Do you get bonus damage when the spirit touches enemies while returning, or also while you control him?

[Tokagero]

[QUOTE=leonthefox;40503932]Do you get bonus damage when the spirit touches enemies while returning, or also while you control him?[/QUOTE]

Any and all units spirit passed (spawn / move / fly back) through during it's lifespan.

Funfact : stack camps for elder titan, each creep = 12 damage and 1% MS.

[That Sprite]

1000+ hours of doto

:toot:

[l l]

[QUOTE=mfb412;40503016]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/SccBChH.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

i hate that end-game bug

do you still get xp and items even if they don't show up

[dire_luck]

-snip, i overreacted and feel like a twat-

[Rockeiro]

[QUOTE=l l;40504109]i hate that end-game bug

do you still get xp and items even if they don't show up[/QUOTE]

THe server still registers the exp and items, it's just a client bug where it wont update properly.

[Harpie]

refresher is bad, aghs is bad, if you managed to get treads/force staff/atos/sheep/shivas/BKB then you have a full slot my friend and if the game is still going just end it

[nmagain]

[QUOTE=dire_luck;40504130]Are you kidding? Agh's on Necro is almost a must. It lets you kill people with your ult while they're above half heath. Admittedly it's most useful against a high hp target, but still....[/QUOTE]
it only gets useful really lategame if the enemy has heroes who are really hard to kill

[editline]2nd May 2013[/editline]

only in that case it is useful

[dual elites]

[QUOTE=dire_luck;40504130]Are you kidding? Agh's on Necro is almost a must. It lets you kill people with your ult while they're above half heath. Admittedly it's most useful against a high hp target, but still....[/QUOTE]

it's really, really, really not a 'must'

oh boy you get to do 300 extra burst damage with your ult, that is definitely worth 4200 gold! just kidding it's fucking worthless. did you actually think about why and when you brought it and what it offers for necro's skillset, or did you see "omg ult upgrade" and automatically think it was good like 90% of retarded scepter buyers out there?

[dire_luck]

[QUOTE=dual elites;40504159]it's really, really, really not a 'must'

oh boy you get to do 300 extra burst damage with your ult, that is definitely worth 4200 gold! just kidding it's fucking worthless. did you actually think about why and when you brought it and what it offers for necro's skillset, or did you see "omg ult upgrade" and automatically think it was good like 90% of retarded scepter buyers out there?[/QUOTE]

Well, admittedly I only pick necro when i'm up against high hp targets like Tide, Axe, or Doom, so getting scepter is usually viable. But you're right, it isn't necessary, only situational.

[dual elites]

there is almost no situation in which you want to get scepter because the debuff on veil outstrips scepter's buff at every level while being half the price and offering actually useful stats. like, the ONE situation it would be useful is if you're up against a team that is using centaur as their main carry and he's got three hearts or something, but in that case it's probably super late game and you shouldn't let the game go on that long as Necro anyway.

also lol @ the idea of buying scepter to kill a fucking tidehunter

[K0ppel]

[url]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410087[/url]
Gamefly/perfect world announces dota 2 super tournament to celebrate the release of dota 2 Chinese servers. Invites are obvious bar a surprise appearance by rising stars.

Also killing a tidehunter once ravage is down is about the biggest waste of time ever.

[Maxumym]

So my doto crashed and the enemy team refused to wait for me despite my friends telling them.
Well guess what I did.
I decided to be a jerk and went KOTL.
And then there's this lucky Invis rune and I check Rosh. Well look at that. Almost done eh?
[B]Maxumym (Keeper of the Light) has snatched the Aegis of Immortal.[/B]
That's what you get for not waiting, assholes.
We then proceeded stomping their asses into submission.

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=dual elites;40504225]there is almost no situation in which you want to get scepter because the debuff on veil outstrips scepter's buff at every level while being half the price and offering actually useful stats. like, the ONE situation it would be useful is if you're up against a team that is using centaur as their main carry and he's got three hearts or something, but in that case it's probably super late game and you shouldn't let the game go on that long as Necro anyway.

also lol @ the idea of buying scepter to kill a fucking tidehunter[/QUOTE]

this reminds me of how I did the math for aghanims vs. veil on jakiro, with veil's total damage results totaling up to about 200 or so higher than aghanims' total damage results

BUT RUSH AGHANIMS ON JAKIRO EVERY GAME ANYWAY

[dual elites]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40504334]this reminds me of how I did the math for aghanims vs. veil on jakiro, with veil's total damage results totaling up to about 200 or so higher than aghanims' total damage results

BUT RUSH AGHANIMS ON JAKIRO EVERY GAME ANYWAY[/QUOTE]

scepter buyers in general tend to be dumb

hmm i am luna and it's approaching lategame, should i buy items to complement my strong right-clicks? LOL NOPE TIME TO BUY SCEPTER, GOTTA GET DEM BEAMS

[K0ppel]

[QUOTE=dual elites;40504390]scepter buyers in general tend to be dumb

hmm i am luna and it's approaching lategame, should i buy items to complement my strong right-clicks? LOL NOPE TIME TO BUY SCEPTER, GOTTA GET DEM BEAMS[/QUOTE]
If my carry builds an aghs and is not tiny I lose all will to live.

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=dual elites;40504390]scepter buyers in general tend to be dumb

hmm i am luna and it's approaching lategame, should i buy items to complement my strong right-clicks? LOL NOPE TIME TO BUY SCEPTER, GOTTA GET DEM BEAMS[/QUOTE]

also fucking priceless when a razor buys aghanims when his team doesn't have leshrac, lycan, and death prophet

[nmagain]

[QUOTE=K0ppel;40504403]If my carry builds an aghs and is not tiny I lose all will to live.[/QUOTE]

what if your carry is meepo

[K0ppel]

[QUOTE=nmagain;40504433]what if your carry is meepo[/QUOTE]

Is the meepo n0tail? Y/N
Y - Why am I playing with fnatic
N - Oh god I've already lost.

[nmagain]

what if that meepo is me ;)))

[K0ppel]

I would never trust your meepo nmagain.

[dual elites]

i queue with a russian dude who is a fucking meepo savant

it's so cathartic to watch him work