getting diffusal should be straight after upgraded boots (and maybe drums if u want some midgame cools) and since average upgraded boots is at like 5 minutes, diffusal should come at around 20 minutes at most
[QUOTE==DarkStar=;41236434]With all this CM talk guess is good time to ask this, I have a problem with her: I think she is the most boring hero in the whole game. What Im doing wrong? I find her support powers rather....meh when I look at other supports. Everytime and everywhere I see CM dying in all the team fights.
Also her voice is annoying as hell and her cosmetic items are tad silly[/QUOTE]
CM is a surprisingly difficult hero to play, and requires a lot of practice to play effectively. Her stats in all regards are absolutely abysmal because her skills are some of the best in the game, just difficult to use effectively, and require high knowledge of targets to judge when and where to use them. Worst part is she's played as a hard support without fail, despite her obvious lacking in speed, strength, everything else.
I always do brown boots -> first major item as long as things are going well, otherwise tranquils -> first major item. Brown boots -> first core (depending on the item) usually means I get it between 10-13, full boots first usually delays it to roughly 16-18 (depending on item).
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[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;41236885]It's really sad when you think about it. Nyx Assassin has even more aggressive skillset but he has a very average stat gain on all attributes, a 300 movement speed and his ulti gives him even more movement speed. But oh, of course, he is melee! Perfectly fine tradeoff.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget his MASSIVE base health regen. Lvl 8 without any regen items and he gets fucking 4.3 hp/sec (roughly).
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[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;41236885]It's really sad when you think about it. Nyx Assassin has even more aggressive skillset but he has a very average stat gain on all attributes, a 300 movement speed and his ulti gives him even more movement speed. But oh, of course, he is melee! Perfectly fine tradeoff.[/QUOTE]
dont forget nyx has 3.2 base hp regen because hes an insect
[QUOTE=l l;41236668]it's a pause symbol[/QUOTE]
pls give us some insight on what the heck do we call you "mr. l l lmao"
[QUOTE=nmagain;41236862]getting diffusal should be straight after upgraded boots (and maybe drums if u want some midgame cools) and since average upgraded boots is at like 5 minutes, diffusal should come at around 20 minutes at most[/QUOTE]
Then I'm actually doing pretty good then. Just have to work on my K/D ratio.
I dunno about you guys, but my build for naga is Tranquils->Linkens->BoTs. After that the usual stuff:Diffusal, Manta, Heart, Butter.
Naga's illusions take 200% damage and deal 45%. Considering the small downtime they're like the best illusions in the game.
Why isn't OD + Nuker lane a thing? Just imagine the shit you'll get in a Zeus and OD lane.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;41237149]Naga's illusions take 200% damage and deal 45%. Considering the small downtime they're like the best illusions in the game.[/QUOTE]
Which is exactly why I play Naga as a pusher with transition into a carry. She just takes towers and creepwaves so damn quickly.
[QUOTE=mochisushi;41237159]Why isn't OD + Nuker lane a thing? Just imagine the shit you'll get in a Zeus and OD lane.[/QUOTE]
his aura doesn't do much without levels and he can obliterate pretty much any solo laner so mid's really good for him.
i think quantic did use him for his aura as part of a 5man push strat though. OD, pugna and dazzle i think? infinite mana, infinite heals, infinite pushing
[QUOTE=mochisushi;41237159]Why isn't OD + Nuker lane a thing? Just imagine the shit you'll get in a Zeus and OD lane.[/QUOTE]
Because OD's Aura won't trigger reliably until he's got 3 or 4 points in it, which takes years on a duolane. Before lvl 5/7 KotL is much, MUCH better in that regard (I've had to run against Tinker/KotL once, you're NEVER getting near that lane).
Is it bad that I enjoy compendium MM better than regular MM?
[QUOTE=Gar~;41235355]l l is two lower case l's, so "ell ell"
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[QUOTE=mochisushi;41237159]Why isn't OD + Nuker lane a thing? Just imagine the shit you'll get in a Zeus and OD lane.[/QUOTE]
And then the mana never procced and Zeus died young.
168 hours of chat ban
thanks valve
[QUOTE=Gorm;41237534]Is it bad that I enjoy compendium MM better than regular MM?[/QUOTE]
Skill lvl is certainly higher
But this week is nearly unwinnable of you're on radiant (ursa, sd, leshrac, gryo, puck vs druid, magnus, lifestealer, keeper and nyx)
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;41237738]168 hours of chat ban
thanks valve[/QUOTE]
I don't understand. I am a snarky asshole 90% of the time and I've never seen doto justice yet. What do you guys do?
[QUOTE=Rarara;41237549]| isn't l or I or !
They are |
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And then the mana never procced and Zeus died young.[/QUOTE]
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So how rare are these player cards?
[QUOTE=Gar~;41237846]copy
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[QUOTE=ChocoCoach;41237890]So how rare are these player cards?[/QUOTE]
Common.
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;41237738]168 hours of chat ban
thanks valve[/QUOTE]
I just got the same. And I didn't even say shit. Seriously.
The first time I got chat banned must have been for something unusually offensive language, like telling someone to go flay themselves with a rusty knife, so I was like sure whatever I can take the chat ban.
But this time I jokingly said something like "God damnit <hero name>, what have you done?" when they died stupidly in later stages of the game where you should not be roaming solo in enemy territory, so.. yeah.
Might just be that we Finns talk a lot shit so when others are offended we think it was nothing, "I could have offended you in a much worse manner"
Through experience I believe Finns are the worst shittalkers in Dota 2, there are Russians in every game so you think they are worse, but if you had Finns in every game we would take the #1 spot
[QUOTE=l l;41236668]it's a pause symbol[/QUOTE]
I like how a two-page conversation appeared over the mysteries of ||.
My friend got like a 2 day chat ban for saying "GET WRECKED" in allchat after we got an ultra kill by Vacuuming the enemy team together, Black Holing them, and then me beating their faces in with my battlefury as an Anti-Mage in a trench-tier pub CM game. My other friend openly admits that he is a flaming jackass to his teammates plenty of the time and that he has never been chatbanned. People need to stop justifying an incompetent system that lets players punish each other for absolutely no reason so long as they damn will it with "But I've never been chatbanned!". The system is ridiculous and I have NEVER seen anything like it before. It's essentially conviction without trial. Valve have too much faith that people in this community won't report others for not being their bitch support, dying too many times, stomping them, or other stupid reasons like that.
I've heard multiple people complain about the chat ban system being frustrating as the teammates of chatbanned people due to their inability to make a coherent response. And quite frankly, the spam of Well Played! is pretty bloody obnoxious.
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;41238248]Might just be that we Finns talk a lot shit so when others are offended we think it was nothing, "I could have offended you in a much worse manner"
Through experience I believe Finns are the worst shittalkers in Dota 2, there are Russians in every game so you think they are worse, but if you had Finns in every game we would take the #1 spot[/QUOTE]
As a fellow Finlander I can confirm that we can be extremely rude.
[QUOTE=Nestophales;41235253]You clearly don't understand anything I've posted on the matter so I'll leave it at that. You just don't get it.[/QUOTE]
What am I not getting? If it blocks the full amount of damage, it is stronger than any heal.
[QUOTE=Belivo;41238312]As a fellow Finlander I can confirm that we can be extremely rude.[/QUOTE]
As a fellow Finlander haista vittu saatanan fiideri paska.
[sp]jk i love you belivo[/sp]
Personally, I think for chat bans they need to do one of three things,
One, make it so rather than preventing the person from chatting in general, it mutes the person client side for everyone on both teams, they can choose to unmute the person at their own discretion.
Two, use a system sort of like LoL's Tribunal(?) where other players anonymously review a replay and decide if the problem person is actually being a problem or if it's just someone being a crybaby.
Three, scrap the entire system.
[QUOTE=Amaurus;41238842]Personally, I think for chat bans they need to do one of three things,
One, make it so rather than preventing the person from chatting in general, it mutes the person client side for everyone on both teams, they can choose to unmute the person at their own discretion.
Two, use a system sort of like LoL's Tribunal(?) where other players anonymously review a replay and decide if the problem person is actually being a problem or if it's just someone being a crybaby.
Three, scrap the entire system.[/QUOTE]
1. This would be a nice idea to see in-game, it could work
2. Not gonna work, the tribunal in LoL doesn't work too well either because almost everyone can vote on it. Also, nobody is going to view a replay unless it would have rewards, and if that would be the case, people would just download every replay they can when not playing, and "watch" it while alt-tabbed or something.
3. I think some sort of system is required, scrapping it entirely would be toxic for the community.
Someone had suggested that you could see the entire chatlog of the game and link whatever the offender has said, this would be the best way to do it in my opinion.
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