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HOLY SHIT ZENITH VS LGD AAHHH THAT TIMBERSAW [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] Completely stomped. I'm just happy to have my build for Timbersaw to have some credibility behind it, seeing as that's what iceiceice used.

[QUOTE=Anonymuzz;41247574]how late did enchantress get midas because wow that is some gpm[/QUOTE] No idea. I saw use of it at 15 mins. Was that the first use? Probably.

I have a 100% winrate with medusa is this good

i never really thought about urn on timber but after watching iceiceice i'll have to try it out

You know the dota gods are shining on you when you're being chased with no mp or hp, but find a regen rune and turn around and kill them

I can't even play bot games after the last update let alone real matches, shit gets way to laggy. At least I can watch games.

[img]http://puu.sh/3rDGn.jpg[/img] so i found out about private games today

i got completely fucking sick of losing and having terrible games, so i broke my blood pact to never play rikimaru due to his utter shitness as a hero the only winning games i had were: enemy early abandon in all pick, enemy early abandon in compendium, shit game as luna with infinite deaths [img]http://puu.sh/3rEhD.png[/img] that'll have to do

Mjollnir > B.Fury

[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;41248106]i got completely fucking sick of losing and having terrible games, so i broke my blood pact to never play rikimaru due to his utter shitness as a hero the only winning games i had were: enemy early abandon in all pick, enemy early abandon in compendium, shit game as luna with infinite deaths [img]http://puu.sh/3rEhD.png[/img] that'll have to do[/QUOTE] riki's a pretty decent carry imo

[QUOTE=Gar~;41248149]riki's a pretty decent carry imo[/QUOTE] I only see value in combining him with sd and insert support here to shit on an antimage or void while they're still without farm disruption -> smoke cloud -> ez game

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;41247630]HOLY SHIT ZENITH VS LGD AAHHH THAT TIMBERSAW [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] Completely stomped. I'm just happy to have my build for Timbersaw to have some credibility behind it, seeing as that's what iceiceice used.[/QUOTE] getting an urn is [I]your[/I] build?

[QUOTE=mitcheroo;41248270]getting an urn is [I]your[/I] build?[/QUOTE] I don't think he meant that as his build in that sense. I think he was just saying his build as in the build he uses.

[QUOTE==DarkStar=;41247859]I can't even play bot games after the last update let alone real matches, shit gets way to laggy. At least I can watch games.[/QUOTE] Sorry to bother but anyone is have this problems? Takes ages for the loadout page to load.

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;41248267]I only see value in combining him with sd and insert support here to shit on an antimage or void while they're still without farm disruption -> smoke cloud -> ez game[/QUOTE] smoke cloud in combination with his blink lets him initiate really well and he can do lots of mid-early game damage. sure his ult can be shut down well but its still forcing the enemy team to go out of their way just to deal with you, and even still when youre invis you have your other spells

[QUOTE=Gar~;41248149]riki's a pretty decent carry imo[/QUOTE] this hero is worth 90 gold, in that this is exactly how much it costs you each time you kill him skillless trash hero, i only played him because i'm so agonisingly annoyed at how much i am losing today [t]http://puu.sh/3rFOJ.png[/t] hnnngggghhhhhh

Counterpicking Phantom Lancer with an Earthshaker is hilarious.

[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;41248503]this hero is worth 90 gold, in that this is exactly how much it costs you each time you kill him skillless trash hero, i only played him because i'm so agonisingly annoyed at how much i am losing today [t]http://puu.sh/3rFOJ.png[/t] hnnngggghhhhhh[/QUOTE] I started playing Warlock 2 days ago, not lost yet. I tend to play him as a support in the laning phase, then transition into a carry with Aghs + Refresher. Oddly, Warlock and Spirit Breaker is a really goo lane and a good combo late game. Spirit charges into last enemy, stunning whole team on his way, then I fatal bonds + 4 x Golems on them. At that point the fight is already over :<:

I caught an alchemist who was fading with shadow amulet in chronosphere, he has some hp left when chrono ends, I told my necrolyte to sit there and wait "Just wait" "wait and see" We forgot about him, and a minute later we get the kill notice :v:

[QUOTE=ManinaBugSuit;41245441]Don't forget about the massive boom in spirit breaker and blood seeker players. It's like all the pl and kotl players were just waiting for these heroes to be buffed.[/QUOTE] Pubseeker I can understand, but I'm fairly certain Breaker didn't get changed so that confuses me. [QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;41246749]best rapier story i have is from about a year ago. we were winning by like 40-10, i remember i was death prophet, so i had a lot of push. enemy had a lifestealer and a kunkka, that i remember. so basically our furion didnt leave the jungle at all. for 30 minutes. he was definitely going for quota, hadnt joined a single teamfight. then he buys a rapier. well after we all get wiped for the first time (good ults all around) furion tps in. 5 people with no cooldowns but their ults. once kunkka sees the sprouting he sets up his stun, and from there its stunlocking all the way til he's dead (about 1.3 seconds later) kunkka now has a divine rapier, and from minor annoyance he goes to "icefraud pls nerf" tier. his splash damage now gets our team to our knees, soon after theyre pushing into our rax, lifestealer infests him and the party is on oh, did i mention they had two rax down yeah. furion went back to jungle instead of pushing, after dying (to buy another rapier) [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] we lost[/QUOTE] I had a Furion build a Rapier in a similar situation when the enemy team had a Medusa. He lost the Rapier to Medusa and we spent the next 30 minutes sitting outside their base waiting for Medusa to make a mistake cause she had 3 goddamn Rapiers and could 3shot all of us. :v:

[QUOTE=Suttles;41246673][URL="http://dotabuff.com/matches/6985670"]Well that was a fun match. I kept on standing in place and feeding. Pretty much was shouting "HEY, FREE KILLS AND A FREE WIN!". Fuck chen, shit hero. wickedplayer494 was in the game, I hope he didn't report me haha :suicide: [editline]29th June 2013[/editline] Hope I don't see the day I'm in Low Prio.[/URL][/QUOTE] What kind of item build is that ahah.... In order to have a decent game with Chen you have to tab through your creeps to gank push and teamfight. You can also use one to stack ancients. Late game just get an alpha wolf have it follow your cores and position yourself so you don't get nuked down so you can hand of god. Build basi > arcanes > mek > aghs. One of the most powerful heroes in the game if you play him effectively, one of the most redundant if you don't.

[QUOTE=mitcheroo;41248270]getting an urn is [I]your[/I] build?[/QUOTE] Who doesn't get urn on like, every roamer ever?

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;41249247]Pubseeker I can understand, but I'm fairly certain Breaker didn't get changed so that confuses me.[/QUOTE] he does a greater bash on impact to his charge target now not much, but an unnecessary buff which i absolutely hate, just like riki's fade time buff

buffing spirit breaker is so dumb, he's powerful as all hell just easy to counter. he's still dealt with the exact same way, but if not, he's just x more stronger and harder to deal with

[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;41249532]he does a greater bash on impact to his charge target now not much, but an unnecessary buff which i absolutely hate, just like riki's fade time buff[/QUOTE] I think the Spirit Breaker change was just for consistency. It was the only skill of him to be unrelated to his passive, and now it's tied back to his passive.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;41249247]but I'm fairly certain Breaker didn't get changed so that confuses me.[/QUOTE] He did. Charge now applies a Greater Bash when it connects

[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;41248106]i got completely fucking sick of losing and having terrible games, so i broke my blood pact to never play rikimaru due to his utter shitness as a hero the only winning games i had were: enemy early abandon in all pick, enemy early abandon in compendium, shit game as luna with infinite deaths [img]http://puu.sh/3rEhD.png[/img] that'll have to do[/QUOTE] To be fair, Riki is an extremely good pick if combod with a Wisp. [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Pocket Medic;41248503]this hero is worth 90 gold, in that this is exactly how much it costs you each time you kill him skillless trash hero, i only played him because i'm so agonisingly annoyed at how much i am losing today [t]http://puu.sh/3rFOJ.png[/t] hnnngggghhhhhh[/QUOTE] If Riki is a skilless trash hero then you should learn positioning <.<

[QUOTE=Rarara;41250068]To be fair, Riki is an extremely good pick if combod with a Wisp.[/QUOTE] riki is an extremely good pick against any team that doesn't know what 'reveal' means [quote]If Riki is a skilless trash hero then you should learn positioning <.<[/QUOTE] i do not fully understand the point you are trying to push here

Riki brutally punishes anybody who moves alone, especially once he has Diffusal. In other words, to counter Riki just move as 2+ people and carry dust/sentries/gem.

[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;41250252]riki is an extremely good pick against any team that doesn't know what 'reveal' means i do not fully understand the point you are trying to push here[/QUOTE] Because you shouldn't rely on invisibility to get you everywhere, obviously they will dust and shit but just don't derp around alone between 3 people? Positioning is also important because you want to abuse backstab without getting put in danger zone, which is why Wisp is an extremely good hero to combo with because blink strike is a free stun and then you just stab them over and over. (easy first blood for example) Smoke cloud is also a great teamfight tool as well as very good at not getting you killed if you have allies nearby. Also the second you get diffusal you can say "fuck this guy in particular" and get a free kill in the midst of teamfights or while just roaming. Riki is also a reliable carry because of how ridiculously good backstab damage is and that he has a fuckton of agility.