[QUOTE=maxumym;40639569]Fixed that for you.
Why don't we see him picked to counter Lifestealer?[/QUOTE]
It's because of his W. pubs are allergic to doing more that one thing at once.
[QUOTE=maxumym;40639569]Fixed that for you.
Why don't we see him picked to counter Lifestealer?[/QUOTE]
because Shadow Demon can do it too and he's more versatile.
[QUOTE=pvt.meh;40639782]because Shadow Demon can do it too and he's more versatile.[/QUOTE]
And Bane can do it even better imo.
Beastmaster is a great hero, no doubt about that, but he's just not good enough. Everything he can do others can do better.
I've never seen a pubbie Beastmaster win a game. Ever.
Granted, I've only played about 250 hours, but still.
Only time I've ever seen a BM win in a pub was when I was playing him and we did a 5 man necrobook strat.
Works a charm every time.
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Though when the matches start if you don't switch to GD studio you suck.
Bullshit.
Strong composite nuke that can easily hit a lot of people.
Strong slow on his pet he can micro.
Vision hawk provides makes a lot of long-range heroes cry tears of joy.
His ultimate beats that of Shadow Demon and Bane in that : it stuns right away, it's not channeled and BM has significant right-cliks of his own afterwards.
+His aura is godsend for early pushes. He is not late-game hero, all of his tools make him Mr. Ganker right there with Night Stalker.
[QUOTE=Tokagero;40640276]Bullshit.
Strong composite nuke that can easily hit a lot of people.
Strong slow on his pet he can micro.
Vision hawk provides makes a lot of long-range heroes cry tears of joy.
His ultimate beats that of Shadow Demon and Bane in that : it stuns right away, it's not channeled and BM has significant right-cliks of his own afterwards.
+His aura is godsend for early pushes. He is not late-game hero, all of his tools make him Mr. Ganker right there with Night Stalker.[/QUOTE]
+amazing starting stats and sustainability.
And ofc you cannot forget his capability of stacking ancients while gaining lane exp
I know beastmaster is a strong hero but by god I just suck with him for undefinable reasons
Heroes this also applies to: Bane, Spirit Breaker, Dark Seer and formerly Omniknight before he really clicked with me.
[QUOTE=Tokagero;40640276]Bullshit.
Strong composite nuke that can easily hit a lot of people.
Strong slow on his pet he can micro.
Vision hawk provides makes a lot of long-range heroes cry tears of joy.
His ultimate beats that of Shadow Demon and Bane in that : it stuns right away, it's not channeled and BM has significant right-cliks of his own afterwards.
+His aura is godsend for early pushes. He is not late-game hero, all of his tools make him Mr. Ganker right there with Night Stalker.[/QUOTE]
He's not weak, not by a long shot. I just rarely see a reason to pick him over something else.
Hang on, you mean Demonic Purge purges Rage? What about Blink or Satyr Trickster?
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;40640353]He's not weak, not by a long shot. I just rarely see a reason to pick him over something else.[/QUOTE]
seriously? he brings a ton of unique things to the table
- vision hawk, holy fuck that thing is insanely strong at every level of play for the entire game. the only hero with a comparable ability is Night Stalker with aghanim's or the bugged Firefly
- long-range, bkb piercing stun, which is only really matched by Venge's swap (dangerous) or Warlock's golem (way shorter stun duration, but aoe)
- an huge radius attack speed aura, which is only matched by Troll Warlord's ult
- one of the only heroes who can solo hard lane on Dire while simultaneously stacking/farming ancients
if you really think there's "no reason to pick him over something else" you're really not appreciating his strengths
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[QUOTE=maxumym;40640393]Hang on, you mean Demonic Purge purges Rage? What about Blink or Satyr Trickster?[/QUOTE]
it doesn't purge Rage, but the gigantic slow still takes effect through magic immunity so it makes lifestealer hilariously easy to kite
it [I]does[/I] purge Repel though
[QUOTE=dual elites;40640401]seriously? he brings a ton of unique things to the table
- vision hawk, holy fuck that thing is insanely strong at every level of play for the entire game. the only hero with a comparable ability is Night Stalker with aghanim's or the bugged Firefly
- long-range, bkb piercing stun, which is only really matched by Venge's swap (dangerous) or Warlock's golem (way shorter stun duration, but aoe)
- an huge radius attack speed aura, which is only matched by Troll Warlord's ult
- one of the only heroes who can solo hard lane on Dire while simultaneously stacking/farming ancients
if you really think there's "no reason to pick him over something else" you're really not appreciating his strengths
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it doesn't purge Rage, but the gigantic slow still takes effect through magic immunity so it makes lifestealer hilariously easy to kite
it [I]does[/I] purge Repel though[/QUOTE]
Might be the circumstances. He aint hero that is much pub-friendly where people ignore hawk's vision and at best will pile onto whomever you ulted. In CM he easily fits a lot of lineups.
When do the matches start today?
Why would you stack ancients as Beastmaster, he has no way of clearing the-
Wait, the axes do composite damage, right?
Yes.
[QUOTE=maxumym;40640437]Why would you stack ancients as Beastmaster, he has no way of clearing the-
Wait, the axes do composite damage, right?[/QUOTE]
uh yeah, that's the entire foundation of beastmaster solo offlane on dire
you run onto that little ledge, throw your axes at them, the camp stacks while you simultaneously damage them. you don't need to win or even be in xp range of your lane because of how much moolah you'll make from the camp
[QUOTE=Rarara;40631559]Are there any other heroes Sange and Yasha is good on aside from Razor and Chaos Knight (halberd+manta)?[/QUOTE]
SnY is a really crappy midway point for building a halberd and manta in my opinion, it just delays both items further
[QUOTE=dual elites;40640483]uh yeah, that's the entire foundation of beastmaster solo offlane on dire
you run onto that little ledge, throw your axes at them, the camp stacks while you simultaneously damage them. you don't need to win or even be in xp range of your lane because of how much moolah you'll make from the camp[/QUOTE]
Just for the record you want to cast at x:52 (means mobs getting hit at x:53).
[QUOTE=Harpie;40640505]SnY is a really crappy midway point for building a halberd and manta in my opinion, it just delays both items further[/QUOTE]
Halberd has a Talisman that costs 1800, Manta an Ult Orb that costs 2100. If you never reach that much gold getting S&Y is better than desperately trying to save up.
SnY is good if you're doing shitty and aren't making any gold. That is literally all it's good for though.
speaking of best master, he just got picked up by RoX.KiS vs empire's lifestealer
[QUOTE=maxumym;40640393]Hang on, you mean Demonic Purge purges Rage? What about Blink or Satyr Trickster?[/QUOTE]
It purges everything but his actual magic immunity, and slows him
Guess who just got first blooded on empire. Two guesses.
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;40641090]What if there was a hero with an AoE Flaming Lasso? And a Vaccuum and an instant Black Hole to help the hero pull it off?[/QUOTE]
Then nobody would play dota.
Oh wait there's Magnus
time to never play again
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idk what if there was a hero with ranged laning capabilities and a free battlefury?
[QUOTE=Harpie;40641122]idk what if there was a hero with ranged laning capabilities and a free battlefury?[/QUOTE]
templar assassin
what if there was a hero with insane base damage, the ability to go invisible at will, has a global damage block that can be applied to buildings, an AoE entangle with a low cooldown and a slow that provides minor healing
Sounds kind of OP, right?
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