[QUOTE=The DooD;46834970]Here's to the year of Killing Floor 2. Hopefully early access starts tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
WHERE THE FUCK IS IT I'M FREAKING OUT
Honestly though, I'm praying for an early access to come out relatively soon, I'd pay good moneys for it.
Why would EA start tomorrow?
the flamethrower looks so bad. evolve and rtcw are the only two games i know of with good looking flamethrowers.
yoooo play some Rising Storm as the flamethrower class
I always like how Killing Floor had the "weighted" flamethrower physics. Throwing flaming liquid is way better than having a puff of fire in front you.
[QUOTE=WaffleCopter;46845697]yoooo play some Rising Storm as the flamethrower class[/QUOTE]
it would look good... if it were fluid in any way whatsoever. the particle count is so low you can count each one individually. it looks disjointed and terrible, completely unlike the real world flamethrower it's imitating.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4tEef4m6rg[/url]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpE3OgTNq5M[/url]
[QUOTE=Odellus;46845901]it would look good... if it were fluid in any way whatsoever. the particle count is so low you can count each one individually. it looks disjointed and terrible, completely unlike the real world flamethrower it's imitating.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4tEef4m6rg[/url]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpE3OgTNq5M[/url][/QUOTE]
Well I'd think the particle count is low as to not tank fps as much for normal people with rigs not costing more than $1100. That and the early access version of the game isn't even out yet and by the time it is they could upgrade the visuals a bit.
[QUOTE=Shinnorin;46846244]Well I'd think the particle count is low as to not tank fps as much for normal people with rigs not costing more than $1100. That and the early access version of the game isn't even out yet and by the time it is they could upgrade the visuals a bit.[/QUOTE]
what are settings
There is always Nvidia Flameworks to look forward to:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDLPoJsqqoA[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1577QeCdwk[/media]
But like people said, try the Rising Storm flamethrower. It looks much better than the RTCW and Evolve flamethrowers.
[QUOTE=The DooD;46847314]But like people said, try the Rising Storm flamethrower. It looks much better than the RTCW and Evolve flamethrowers.[/QUOTE]
the rising storm flamethrower is what i was talking about in the post replying to someone talking about rising storm. it looks like complete shit and i honestly can't tell if you're being serious or not.
there's no way you actually think [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u256aTzl8Zg#t=345"]this[/URL] looks better than [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j6WbVF8cho#t=82"]this[/URL] or [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iy6vjM22Q4#t=84"]this.[/URL]
also i just noticed that if your framerate is below 25 or so in kf you have no recoil, at least not on the aa12 or flamethrower.
It definitely looks better than the second video. It's got the exact same problem you described for the RS one. You can see individual particles. At least with the way Rising Storm one acts when it hits an object, it looks more natural.
[QUOTE=Odellus;46847334]the rising storm flamethrower is what i was talking about in the post replying to someone talking about rising storm. it looks like complete shit and i honestly can't tell if you're being serious or not.
there's no way you actually think [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u256aTzl8Zg#t=345"]this[/URL] looks better than [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j6WbVF8cho#t=82"]this[/URL] or [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iy6vjM22Q4#t=84"]this.[/URL]
also i just noticed that if your framerate is below 25 or so in kf you have no recoil, at least not on the aa12 or flamethrower.[/QUOTE]
The Evolve ones appear to be entirely physicsless. Just particles traveling in a straight line from its emitter.
[QUOTE=The DooD;46847441]It definitely looks better than the second video. It's got the exact same problem you described for the RS one. You can see individual particles. At least with the way Rising Storm one acts when it hits an object, it looks more natural.[/QUOTE]
doesn't matter, it still has more particles than the rs flamethrower. it's not noticeable in-game like it is in rs. that's also not max settings, and on max settings there are even more particles as well as particle motion blur like in crysis 3. the rs flamethrower particles look like they're rendered at 15 fps or some shit too, further decreasing fluidity. i will admit i don't know why the actual flamethrower weapon in evolve looks worse than the goliath's flame breath. rtcw doesn't even have this problem and it's a little over 13 years old :)
[QUOTE=Odellus;46847334]the rising storm flamethrower is what i was talking about in the post replying to someone talking about rising storm. it looks like complete shit and i honestly can't tell if you're being serious or not.
there's no way you actually think [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u256aTzl8Zg#t=345"]this[/URL] looks better than [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j6WbVF8cho#t=82"]this[/URL] or [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iy6vjM22Q4#t=84"]this.[/URL]
also i just noticed that if your framerate is below 25 or so in kf you have no recoil, at least not on the aa12 or flamethrower.[/QUOTE]
The Rising storm one looks more realistic (colour and look), while the Evolve one looks a little more stylised and colourful
RS flame has particles and therefore volume, while the Evolve one looks planar and flat but has little sparks shooting out
Overall I like the Evolve one a little more despite it's shortcomings, I think mainly because of the effect it has on the environment and me preferring a stylised look to a slightly duller realistic look
The KF2 flamethrower is looking pretty damn good though, especially the little fuel particles rushing past, the zeds bursting into flame, and the flame following a sort of arc
[img]http://i.gyazo.com/d8c00bb62e8b1a17db8852f581fef1a5.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=The DooD;46847314]There is always Nvidia Flameworks to look forward to:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDLPoJsqqoA[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1577QeCdwk[/media]
But like people said, try the Rising Storm flamethrower. It looks much better than the RTCW and Evolve flamethrowers.[/QUOTE]
Look forward to in like 10 years..
These flashy demos never get any practical use anytime soon
[QUOTE=Odellus;46845471]the flamethrower looks so bad. evolve and rtcw are the only two games i know of with good looking flamethrowers.[/QUOTE]
KF2?
It burns them from front to back, that's literally the tightest shit I've ever seen.
[QUOTE=spekter;46847735]KF2?
It burns them from front to back, that's literally the tightest shit I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]
I like my zeds cooked medium well
I like mine rare with a side of sharp metal
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;46847606]Look forward to in like 10 years..
These flashy demos never get any practical use anytime soon[/QUOTE]
Well, the presenter said it himself, it took 32 million voxels to simulate that single flame effect, and it runs at "over 30 fps" on a GTX Titan. The only way anyone would put that into an actual game is if they rendered the effects at like a quarter of that resolution, and even then they'd still have to be used sparingly.
Even at that resolution, that still doesn't look [i]that[/i] great either. Fire is too hard.
[QUOTE=pebkac;46847770]Well, the presenter said it himself, it took 32 million voxels to simulate that single flame effect, and it runs at "over 30 fps" on a GTX Titan. The only way anyone would put that into an actual game is if they rendered the effects at like a quarter of that resolution, and even then they'd still have to be used sparingly.[/QUOTE]
It's starting point though.
Also can be used for non-realtime things like TV Show FX etc.
[QUOTE=Odellus;46845471]the flamethrower looks so bad. evolve and rtcw are the only two games i know of with good looking flamethrowers.[/QUOTE]
I hope you mean Wolfenstien 2009 and not RTCW 2001. I bought RTCW the day it came out and i still own that very same CD now and I play through it at some point every year, the flamethrower was phenomenal at the time and i will NEVER forget how godlike it looked nor the immense amount of fear i felt when i had to take down the enemies using it, all 6 of them. It looked fantastic and is scared the shit out of me.
But the damn thing is 14 years old, I'm not abut to sit here and say no game has made it better even though i very much have my rose tinted nostalgia goggles bolted to my face when it comes to that game.
I just want to play the game personally I really don't give a shit what the fire looks like, hopefully I won't have to turn down the graphics too much
[QUOTE=The Rizzler;46847581]
The KF2 flamethrower is looking pretty damn good though, especially the little fuel particles rushing past, the zeds bursting into flame, and the flame following a sort of arc
[img]http://i.gyazo.com/d8c00bb62e8b1a17db8852f581fef1a5.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Oh my God zeds put their hands up to protect their faces when getting blasted by fire, the [i]immersion![/i]
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;46853012]Oh my God zeds put their hands up to protect their faces when getting blasted by fire, the [I]immersion![/I][/QUOTE]
Not so fun when sharpshooters bitch at you for ruining their headshots and robbing them of exp........hopefully KF2'll use a different leveling system for SS/require fewer headshots. Seriously, an SS tagging with a demo+bug might as well go afk/change locations because he sure as hell won't be killing anything with that AOE. Well, except the occasional scrake/FP, but that still only counts as 1 headshot.
With all the head bobbing and such, Sharpshooter is going to be a lot harder this time around, I wonder if they will get stronger weapons/perk abilities to compensate.
This sharpshooter-talk reminds me that I still don't have that achievement for KF1 where you have to get 25 headshots in a row with the goddamn lasersight on the EBR.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;46853012]Oh my God zeds put their hands up to protect their faces when getting blasted by fire, the [i]immersion![/i][/QUOTE]
"Fleeessssh---OH JESUS GOD FUCK FUCK FUCK"
Lots of new screenshots
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[QUOTE=ZakkShock;46855612]"Fleeessssh---OH JESUS GOD FUCK FUCK FUCK"[/QUOTE]
A fleshpound screaming with his hands up running for the nearest water source
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