Metal Gear Solid - VIIII - A Hideo Kojima Thread - PLAY THEM ALL IN RELEASE ORDER - Games

[QUOTE=IceyMalone;47974350]That's what Ocelot thought; but the Patriots themselves said that even a soldier as good as Solid meant nothing to them. Personally, I've always thought it makes more sense that they'd try to recreate a one-man army that eradicated an attack by their enemy, Solidus.[/QUOTE] They were trying to recreate the Shadow Moses Incident to recreate the perfect soldier. That wasn't the goal, that was he proof that their system of societal manipulation worked. They wanted to prove that they could take a normal person and turn them into whatever they wanted, if they could turn a person who never saw real war into a professional in one day they could pretty much make anyone do anything. What they failed to understand is humans are not blank slates who can be programmed to do anything they want, and that Raiden was anything but a normal person who never seen real war. They succeeded in the short term by manipulating Raiden into killing Solidus, but they completely fucked themselves in the long run by creating a rigid program which could not adapt to the world, creating a perfected soldier who had a personal vendetta against them, and unveiling themselves to Philanthropy and Ocelot who were able to begin working against them in earnest.

[QUOTE=Tac Error;47974306]Now even the conventional armies in the setting have mechs (can't seem to ID that insignia) [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/i6ytcFQ.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] They look South African

They look Rhodesian to me [IMG]http://selousscouts.tripod.com/scouting4danger.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://selousscouts.tripod.com/scout4.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=tempunary;47975361]They look Rhodesian to me [IMG]http://selousscouts.tripod.com/scouting4danger.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://selousscouts.tripod.com/scout4.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I swear if Frank Jaeger doesn't show up I'll bust Kojima's head open.

[QUOTE=spekter;47975846]I swear if Frank Jaeger doesn't show up I'll bust Kojima's head open.[/QUOTE] I thought Jaeger was in Portable Ops.

[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;47973970]Surely you'd be able to scrounge up $60 by september?[/QUOTE] You know, I probably could, but I don't want to play it on the PS3 since GZ runs kind of badly in it and most likely TPP will run worse. Besides, I require a PS4 since apparently FF7 is coming so... Might aswell just wait. Also, damn no extra TPP info

[QUOTE=Tall Russian;47975968]I thought Jaeger was in Portable Ops.[/QUOTE] His inclusion was one of the things that Kojima doesn't consider canon

[QUOTE=Tall Russian;47975968]I thought Jaeger was in Portable Ops.[/QUOTE] In what?

[QUOTE=spekter;47975846]I swear if Frank Jaeger doesn't show up I'll bust Kojima's head open.[/QUOTE] If Frank shows up, I want him to be basically a nameless young DD recruit for the first half of the game, basically a background character. Then you find him by a river in Rhodesia, feeding a little girl. And, well, the rest is history.

A thought I had... Jack... you and I... [t]http://i.imgur.com/KRaOVEO.png[/t] are two sides... [t]http://www.madore.org/~david/images/cards/english/jack-diamonds.png[/t] of the same card. We are Diamond Dogs. Am I over thinking this one?

[QUOTE=ThePanther;47976736]A thought I had... Jack... you and I... [t]http://i.imgur.com/KRaOVEO.png[/t] are two sides... [t]http://www.madore.org/~david/images/cards/english/jack-diamonds.png[/t] of the same card. We are Diamond Dogs. Am I over thinking this one?[/QUOTE] Looks like they're going for a spiderman kiss

Aaagh, I can't wait to rescue Kaz while listening to the Rambo 2 soundtrack.

Man, that E3 trailer gave me so many chills that I can't even feel anything anymore. I just want to sleep until September 1st.

What's the order of the voices in the newest trailer? It's hard for me to tell the difference sometimes.

[QUOTE=Mini Shot;47977110]What's the order of the voices in the newest trailer? It's hard for me to tell the difference sometimes.[/QUOTE] Skull Face > ??? > Code Talker > Zero > Skull Face > Ocelot > Skull Face > Skull Face again > Big Boss

They tried to get him back but he refused because the pay was shit lol

[QUOTE=Flubbman;47977285]They tried to get him back but he refused because the pay was shit lol[/QUOTE] Either Kojima fucked up or that's probably around the time Konami started undermining Kojima.

[QUOTE=tempunary;47977218]Skull Face > ??? > Code Talker > Zero > Skull Face > Ocelot > Skull Face > Skull Face again > Big Boss[/QUOTE] Found this list on 4chan, seems to be right 0:12 Skullface 0:45 Ocelot 1:40 Code Talker 2:00 Zero 3:17 Skullface 3:36 Ocelot 3:58 Skullface 5:29 Big Boss

[QUOTE=tempunary;47975361]They look Rhodesian to me [IMG]http://selousscouts.tripod.com/scouting4danger.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://selousscouts.tripod.com/scout4.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Im sorry, but those fucking shorts, I swear. [editline]16th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=ThePanther;47976736]A thought I had... Jack... you and I... [t]http://i.imgur.com/KRaOVEO.png[/t] are two sides... [t]http://www.madore.org/~david/images/cards/english/jack-diamonds.png[/t] of the same card. We are Diamond Dogs. Am I over thinking this one?[/QUOTE] The amount of hidden symbolism in this series is just fucking insane, and Kojima is going all out on Phantom Pain. This game is truly his masterpiece.

Can anyone suggest me music like Elegia from the latest trailer?

The backstory that Skull Face gives doesn't seem to mesh with his current known backstory in my opinion, I know that every character in MGS goes through a trauma conga line from birth but his backstory as it stood was already fine to me. Although, on the wiki it does mention that he was tortured my foreign hands later in life so it could be an expansion of that instead, as what he discusses could possibly indicate torture.

[QUOTE=tempunary;47975361]They look Rhodesian to me [IMG]http://selousscouts.tripod.com/scouting4danger.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://selousscouts.tripod.com/scout4.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Rhodesia didn't exist in 1984, South Africa on the other hand was fighting in Angola at this point and wore khaki uniforms: [T]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/49/32/69/493269c3855f90234a1e0895da1495c4.jpg[/T]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/lDRhAWH.jpg?1[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Mini Shot;47977436]Found this list on 4chan, seems to be right 0:12 Skullface 0:45 Ocelot 1:40 Code Talker 2:00 Zero 3:17 Skullface 3:36 Ocelot 3:58 Skullface 5:29 Big Boss[/QUOTE] I'm certain that 0:45 is actually Miller.

This is going to be some sort of Spec Ops: The Line shit by the end of it all. Big Boss has hit that Line.

Here's to You, Not Your Kind of People and Nuclear confirmed for the OST. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oZqcIr4.png[/IMG] And apparently Elegia made it to top five on iTunes. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/4Tl4lnb.png[/IMG]

How to make a top 5 song: Make Kojima use it in a trailer for one of his games

I find it funny how Zero's plan involves the disintegration of differences like nationality, languages, and even faces, when Big Boss is kind of already doing that with Diamond Dogs, what with the fulton-ing of soldiers from different countries, brainwashing them to becoming part of his army, and a uniform that includes a balaclava that obscures 90% of the wearer's face

[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;47978968]I find it funny how Zero's plan involves the disintegration of differences like nationality, languages, and even faces, when Big Boss is kind of already doing that with Diamond Dogs, what with the fulton-ing of soldiers from different countries, brainwashing them to becoming part of his army, and a uniform that includes a balaclava that obscures 90% of the wearer's face[/QUOTE] Yeah they're both ironically doing similar things just in different ways while hating each other.

I had a dumb idea. Kojima likes movies, what if Skull face and BB[sp]are like The Narrator and Tyler from fight club? BB sees Skull Face do all the evil shit but it turns out it's actually him doing it. Would kinda explain Skull face popping up randomly.[/sp] Kinda dumb idea but it's sticking with me. I am getting nothing done this fall between this and Fallout 4.