Metal Gear Solid - VIIII - A Hideo Kojima Thread - PLAY THEM ALL IN RELEASE ORDER - Games

I honestly like Kiefer's voice for BB, hope he has a lot of lines in TPP.

[QUOTE=Hogie bear;48033068]This video makes me wonder. What could she have saved Big Boss from? Miller saying that she was saving herself implies that they both were in danger, and the only scene I can think of with that description is in the new trailer with the downed helicopter and the zombie looking characters walking towards them.[/QUOTE] i'm guessing the zombie unit [t]http://i.imgur.com/EVho6nE.png[/t]

[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;48032997]It would be like Raiden in MGS2. I kinda wish we'd see, by the end or something, a recreation of Metal Gear 1 with Solid attacking Outer Heaven or some shit, with a big reveal and Solid saying "kept you waiting huh?" LET ME DREAM![/QUOTE] There's every chance that TPP could end with the beginning of Metal Gear 1. We're finally closing the loop, after all. According to Raiden's voice actor, Hayter is still the VA for Solid Snake. If adult Solid Snake has a voice anywhere in TPP, it'd make sense that they changed BB's VA. Honestly I'd be surprised if we didn't at least get an ending phone call with something from Metal Gear 1.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;48034368]There's every chance that TPP could end with the beginning of Metal Gear 1. We're finally closing the loop, after all. According to Raiden's voice actor, Hayter is still the VA for Solid Snake. If adult Solid Snake has a voice anywhere in TPP, it'd make sense that they changed BB's VA. Honestly I'd be surprised if we didn't at least get an ending phone call with something from Metal Gear 1.[/QUOTE] at this point I almost feel like that's [I]too [/I] predictable to have the post game phone call to be solid it has to be Ocelot somehow

[QUOTE=Novangel;48033030]Skullface, Miller, Code Talker, Zero, Ocelot and BB iirc[/QUOTE] The second voice does [I]not[/I] sound like Kaz Hell, I don't think Kaz even talked in this trailer

[QUOTE=Paranoia10;48034534]The second voice does [I]not[/I] sound like Kaz Hell, I don't think Kaz even talked in this trailer[/QUOTE] It was Kaz. [editline]23rd June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;48034502]at this point I almost feel like that's [I]too [/I] predictable to have the post game phone call to be solid it has to be Ocelot somehow[/QUOTE] IIRC one of the games ended with multiple phone calls :v: I just want to hear Hayter say "This is Snake. Commencing operation Intrude N313..."

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I 100% love kiefer as the boss, but the only thing I think i'll miss that probably wont be in the game any more is bb doing that grunt thing almost every time someone says something

[QUOTE=Paranoia10;48034534]The second voice does [I]not[/I] sound like Kaz Hell, I don't think Kaz even talked in this trailer[/QUOTE] What I noticed, is that both Kaz, Ocelot and Code Talker, almost all sound the same. At least imo. Skullface would fall into that hole aswell, if it weren't for that specific way he speaks.

[QUOTE=kweh;48034657]What I noticed, is that both Kaz, Ocelot and Code Talker, almost all sound the same. At least imo. Skullface would fall into that hole aswell, if it weren't for that specific way he speaks.[/QUOTE] Not really. Like at all.

Okay just watched 40 minutes gameplay, let me put in my two kopecks as well. First of all, my problem with Kiefer is that he's (as in game, never watched 24, dropped after 1st episode, too boring) got no range. Only constant semi-drunk\semi-angry slur. [I]Maybe[/I] he's great for serious scenes but I'm not find his acting as BB believable and off-putting. Hayter's BB(and SSnake too ofc) had great range IMO, in-game it had a lot of dramatic and serious moments (for example that moment with Peacewalker drowning itself), while during codecs he managed to also be funny as well (back to the point, Picasso was Spanish, right?)all while keeping his acting believable. I dunno, I try to picture Kiefer pull a funny and it's just crumbles, this just doesn't work. Maybe I'm biased as hell, or maybe I just need time for Kiefer to rub off on me. --- Secondly, fucking [B]PROPER RUSSIAN LANGUAGE[/B], FINALLY Not without few hiccups, like Spetznaz commander(his voice was also weird, but it's justified in a way that's not everyone gets a badass baritone) and one of the guys talking about shields had weird accents(definitely not anywhere from CIS sector, more like an American who learned Russian) and wrongly stressed words. This alone already made me decide that I'll never use deadly force during Afghan chapter unless I absolutely have to (also because my uncle and several other older relatives participated in that conflict). This video more or less dissipated all of my doubts for actual gameplay, hopefully story will also be as good.

[QUOTE=Marzipas;48034617]I 100% love kiefer as the boss, but the only thing I think i'll miss that probably wont be in the game any more is bb doing that grunt thing almost every time someone says something[/QUOTE] Kiefer's alright, but he just doesn't have that much personality. Hayter at least had a certain attitude to his voice.

Also about whole conspiracy thing: How is Big Boss unable to understand Russian? Remember this exchange between Sokolov and BB(then Naked Snake) -By the way, your Russian is superb, where'd you learned to speak it? -From my mentor. Either this is not BB or maybe shrapnel damaged his brain causing him to forget (why he's still able to operate in the field then?) or this is simply a huge dumb oversight. Also, why the fuck Ocelot can't translate from Russian to English?

Does the development of weapons, gear, etc. take in game time or real time? Just curious if it would be like PW.

[QUOTE=maniacykt;48034896]Also about whole conspiracy thing: How is Big Boss unable to understand Russian? Remember this exchange between Sokolov and BB(then Naked Snake) -By the way, your Russian is superb, where'd you learned to speak it? -From my mentor. Either this is not BB or maybe shrapnel damaged his brain causing him to forget (why he's still able to operate in the field then?) or this is simply a huge dumb oversight. Also, why the fuck Ocelot can't translate from Russian to English?[/QUOTE] They explained it numerous times the shrapnel fucked his language knowledge.

ocelot also wouldn't be sitting in the support unit 24/7 just to translate when guys go on ops he's got shit to do

[QUOTE=Marden;48034930]They explained it numerous times the shrapnel fucked his language knowledge.[/QUOTE] Shit, must've missed it. Kind of too hand waveish but okay. Still, my point about Ocelot still stands.

[QUOTE=maniacykt;48034896] Also, why the fuck Ocelot can't translate from Russian to English?[/QUOTE] Wait what the fuck. Yeah, thats actually a good point.

he's too busy torturing people and spinning his guns

Well, I guess it's semi-justified (kinda) in both cases but justifications are way too flimsy to my tastes. Gameplay mechanics need to be put in place but it could've been done more elegantly. Like Ocelot complaining "Shit John, find someone else to do support and translating stuff, I got shit to do" and bam, dire need of translator

[QUOTE=Redswandir;48034950]ocelot also wouldn't be sitting in the support unit 24/7 just to translate when guys go on ops he's got shit to do[/QUOTE] "Ocelot! Get over here, Boss needs some translations done!" "Damnit Kaz, I'm twirlin' my guns over here!!"

im willing to let it slide tho cuz the idea of having to find translators to understand certain troops is really cool

Plot twist: Ocelot and the Sorrow were bullshitting and are Serbs. "Ocelot, you gotta translate this guy, he's got hostages and we need to negotiate." "Oh, uh, ok I got this I can do this I got this guys. Zdravo!...uh, uh Dobro jutro!... Mogu li da vam?" "Oткуда вы? Помедленнее, пожалуйста! Оставьте меня в покое!" Ocelot begins to visibly sweat.

It's one thing to know a language and another to interpret quickly and accurately. Most people who know multiple languages can understand the meaning behind one language but articulating it into another isn't always easy or fast. Becoming an interpreter requires a lot of knowledge and isn't something an average Joe can simply become. I can see Ocelot just not being able to keep up or give an accurate description on what the enemy is saying.

I really do love big kief chief as the boss, I think he's got a good intimidation that Naked Snake never had we never really saw Naked Snake as scary, always as this lovable goofball who made love to guns and ate snakes. WIth Kiefer being a much lower growl, I'm able to see him more as a warlord who makes diamonds from ashes

People need to remember that traumatic brain injuries and comas are no joke. Some people have to re-learn how to speak their first languages, let alone a foreign one. Many times they have to re-learn how to eat, drink, walk, etc. Big Boss has gone through that now. 9 years in a coma is a big deal and the fact that he's even alive is a miracle. It's all these details that are important to understanding who Big Boss is in TPP. He doesn't speak Russian anymore? I don't blame him. He's not as charismatic a character anymore? I don't blame him. The guy's lucky he's not a vegetable in a wheelchair by now. That's who Big Boss is. He is no longer Naked Snake from MGS3. For him, that was almost a life-time ago by 1984 anyway.

My biggest gripe with Sutherland is that he doesn't bring much to the character but himself. It's like instead of understanding Big Boss and playing the role he's just playing a second Jack Bauer.

[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;48035734]My biggest gripe with Sutherland is that he doesn't bring much to the character but himself. It's like instead of understanding Big Boss and playing the role he's just playing a second Jack Bauer.[/QUOTE] jack bauer does a whole lot more yelling and panicking.

[QUOTE=vodka quest;48033308]zero's voice is fucking perfect holy shit what are you smoking he's calm and collected because he's completely delusional that he's right and big boss is wrong [editline]23rd June 2015[/editline] I actually got shivers in the trailer when I heard him, seriously wonder who the voice actor is[/QUOTE] actually, you're right his voice is spot on damn I can't get enough of this trailer What would be the ideal specs for a PC that can MAX or nearly max TPP?

[QUOTE=maniacykt;48034953]Shit, must've missed it. Kind of too hand waveish but okay. Still, my point about Ocelot still stands.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between knowing multiple languages and being able to translate on the fly what someone's saying Hell, even normal translation jobs in which you're not in a rush are bad enough because different languages have vastly different grammatical rules, you're not just translating words, you're rewriting the entire sentence in a different language Now imagine that you have to do that to someone over a radio and you can't delay.