[QUOTE=Mbbird;41953893]
I'd say I should stop bothering responding to prevent further thread shitting but it's not like there's much else for us to talk about.[/QUOTE]
Zombie DLC of course!
Here, have a preview of it
[video=youtube;BL6tTjRi7S4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL6tTjRi7S4[/video]
Don't worry about the voices, its for Payday 3!
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41953918]Do you have any proof, any whatsoever, that they're planning to leave it out of the game for good?[/QUOTE]
Maybe the lack of communication, lack of guarantee (same as seen across the board), the lack of an entire enemy on release after a 6 week beta period in the first place, combined with a history of paid DLCs.
Overkill you're tearing this family apart ;_;
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41953942]It was bad enough that it was causing the game to crash completely for everyone. That doesn't sound like a minor problem. We don't really know what changes may have been made to Cloakers, if they've added anything to them or anything like that.[/QUOTE]
Well they haven't changed tasers, dozers or shields (except there are 2 shields now and they can carry bags), so one could guess that cloakers are the same too. Plus they aren't communicating with the community about them, and pretty much just slammed the door in our faces and yelled "fuck off, you'll get them when they're ready"
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41953950]So they should have left it in to keep crashing people's games? Did you read the post I quoted or just jump to make a snipe post?[/QUOTE]
It should have been fixed
[QUOTE=Mbbird;41953952]Maybe the lack of communication, lack of guarantee (same as seen across the board), the lack of an entire enemy on release after a 6 week beta period in the first place, combined with a history of paid DLCs.[/QUOTE]What history of paid DLCs? They released one DLC pack for the first game, and had a free content update in the form of the No Mercy campaign. How is that a "History of paid DLCs"? They also said originally that they were out of the game to fix the issues with them causing crashes. Not just "Welp, they're gone." And I feel like they've addressed it more recently than that.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41953970]What history of paid DLCs? They released one DLC pack for the first game, and had a free content update in the form of the No Mercy campaign. How is that a "History of paid DLCs"? They also said originally that they were out of the game to fix the issues with them causing crashes. Not just "Welp, they're gone." And I feel like they've addressed it more recently than that.[/QUOTE]
I never played PD1 but that's the vibe I'm getting here.
Feel free to ignore the other 3 points though. They mentioned the crash bug prior to beta.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;41953961]It should have been fixed[/QUOTE]Then by all means, go work for Overkill and fix it yourself since you seem to know what it would take.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41953970]What history of paid DLCs? They released one DLC pack for the first game, and had a free content update in the form of the No Mercy campaign. How is that a "History of paid DLCs"? They also said originally that they were out of the game to fix the issues with them causing crashes. Not just "Welp, they're gone." And I feel like they've addressed it more recently than that.[/QUOTE]
They said they have a full year of DLC planned
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41953974]Then by all means, go work for Overkill and fix it yourself since you seem to know what it would take.[/QUOTE]
Don't pull that shit, I paid $50 for this and they said cloakers would be included. Considering pretty much all of the other AI was carried over from Payday 1, along with all their bugs and glitches, I doubt it would be too difficult to reimplement cloakers
[QUOTE=Mbbird;41953973]I never played PD1 but that's the vibe I'm getting here.
Feel free to ignore the other 3 points though.[/QUOTE]I addressed the first two points if you'd care to actually read instead of just shitting about. And the third one is literally restating what we already know, that the Cloaker isn't in the game. Congratulations, you're redundant.
I hope you guys realize the old release date for PAYDAY 2 hasn't even passed yet
It was rushed out because people were complaining that they wanted it now
Not to mention PAYDAY 1 was just as shit on release
[QUOTE=Ericson666;41953982]They said they have a full year of DLC planned[/QUOTE]That's for the future, you're not too keen on "History" are you?
And we don't know if they'll all be paid or what. Lets make more assumptions.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41953974]Then by all means, go work for Overkill and fix it yourself since you seem to know what it would take.[/QUOTE]
Tool #1 for community damage control: "Lets see you do better".
Fun fact, even with lua injection, these are the only heists that work.
[quote]"welcome_to_the_jungle_prof", -- (Big Oil)
"framing_frame", "framing_frame_prof",
"watchdogs", "watchdogs_prof",
"alex", -- (Rats)
"firestarter", "firestarter_prof",
"ukrainian_job_prof",
"jewelry_store",
"four_stores",
"nightclub",
"mallcrasher",
"branchbank_deposit", "branchbank_cash", "branchbank_gold_prof", "branchbank_prof"[/quote]
Technically, 17. If you count four reskins and the pro jobs as separate heists. The actual number is 10. GG Overkill.
[QUOTE=Doom14;41953997]Fun fact, even with lua injection, these are the only heists that work.
Technically, 17. If you count four reskins and the pro jobs as separate heists. The actual number is 10. GG Overkill.[/QUOTE]
They counted days as separate heists for some reason.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;41953995]Tool #1 for community damage control: "Lets see you do better".[/QUOTE]Its a valid point given what he was saying. He's just going "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT WHY ISN'T IT FIX YET GUIS I DON'T GET IT!" And has no idea if they're working on it or not or what effort it would take to fix it.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;41953982]Don't pull that shit, I paid $50 for this and they said cloakers would be included.[/QUOTE]Yeah, and they made it known before the game was released that the Cloakers weren't in the game yet because they had issues. You had time to ask for a refund then. Did you?
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41954011]Its a valid point given what he was saying. He's just going "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT WHY ISN'T IT FIX YET GUIS I DON'T GET IT!" And has no idea if they're working on it or not or what effort it would take to fix it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ericson666;41953982][QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41953974]Then by all means, go work for Overkill and fix it yourself since you seem to know what it would take.[/QUOTE]
Don't pull that shit, I paid $50 for this and they said cloakers would be included. Considering pretty much all of the other AI was carried over from Payday 1, along with all their bugs and glitches, I doubt it would be too difficult to reimplement cloakers[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be so pissed off if they actually kept the community in the loop with what's happening
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41954022]Yeah, and they made it known before the game was released that the Cloakers weren't in the game yet because they had issues. You had time to ask for a refund then. Did you?[/QUOTE]
I assumed they'd be there on release
[QUOTE=Ericson666;41954030]I assumed they'd be there on release[/QUOTE]
Then that's your fault, not the company's
[QUOTE=Ericson666;41954030]I wouldn't be so pissed off if they actually kept the community in the loop with what's happening[/QUOTE]Do you want a fucking dev blog about fixing the goddamned Cloakers? Should we get a live feed tracking everything they do in the effort to get them fixed? Its perfectly valid to complain about that with the missing heists because they're outright denying that there is a problem.
Fun fact number two. Very Hard is actually coded as "overkill" and Overkill as "overkill_145" so don't expect a.. you know.. Overkill_145 style dealio again. It's not like Overkill Pro Jobs are already piss easy most of the time, sans Big Oil Day 2 and Framing Frame Day 3.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;41954010]They counted days as separate heists for some reason.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, what was that about thirty maps and seventeen heists? Because we're hilariously short on the map count then, whatever that's suppose to be.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;41954066]They count escapes as separate maps, as well as the other days in missions.
I'm not saying I like it, but it's what they do.[/QUOTE]
I'm really confused as to what you're trying to say. Because 5 escapes + 1 night version does not make 17 become 30.
[QUOTE=Doom14;41954061]I'm sorry, what was that about thirty maps and seventeen heists? Because we're hilariously short on the map count then, whatever that's suppose to be.[/QUOTE]
They count escapes as separate maps, as well as the other days in missions.
I'm not saying I like it, but it's what they do.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;41954051]Then that's your fault, not the company's[/QUOTE]
Not really, they included cloakers in the advertisement so it was a pretty reasonable assumption that it would be in the game
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41954059]Do you want a fucking dev blog about fixing the goddamned Cloakers? Should we get a live feed tracking everything they do in the effort to get them fixed? Its perfectly valid to complain about that with the missing heists because they're outright denying that there is a problem.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I kinda do, considering that Overkill has a habit of acknowledging an issue and then suddenly going silent on it for a long time. Case in point, the only time since release that Overkill actually addressed the cloakers was when they said "whoops lol yeah cloakers are still broken, we'll get them out sometime idk"
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41954011]Its a valid point given what he was saying. He's just going "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT WHY ISN'T IT FIX YET GUIS I DON'T GET IT!" And has no idea if they're working on it or not or what effort it would take to fix it.[/QUOTE]
Remember that thread "how to argue on facepunch"?
didn't it include precise calculations on how to translate fake quotes. just like how
[QUOTE=Ericson666;41953961]
It should have been fixed[/QUOTE]
translates to
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41954011]"FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT WHY ISN'T IT FIX YET GUIS I DON'T GET IT!"[/quote]
it's a crash bug bro. we're not asking them to change the world and blow our minds. pd2 is half-assed and the lack of cloakers only furthers the problem.
Again, the game got release half assed only because the community wanted it so badly, that they released it that way. I am sure all these problems will be fixed in the future, which doesn't bug me at all.
I don't regret spending close to 200 dollars on copies of the game for you guys :v:
[QUOTE=Zadrave;41954131]Again, the game got release half assed only because the community wanted it so badly, that they released it that way. I am sure all these problems will be fixed in the future, which doesn't bug me at all.[/QUOTE]
What? It's not like we were threatening them with death if they didn't ship it immediately, they didn't have to ship it
[QUOTE=Zadrave;41954131]Again, the game got release half assed only because the community wanted it so badly, that they released it that way. I am sure all these problems will be fixed in the future, which doesn't bug me at all.[/QUOTE]
The whole "it was rushed because community" argument is a joke. But fine, let's see if Saint Hoxtone rains down from the money clouds and fixes everything by the end of August.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;41954131]Again, the game got release half assed only because the community wanted it so badly, that they released it that way. I am sure all these problems will be fixed in the future, which doesn't bug me at all.[/QUOTE]
Yet the devs state that the game is finished and in exactly they state after release that they want it.
It really hurts to read this thread.
So much disappointment and anger.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;41954159]Yet the devs state that the game is finished and in exactly they state after release that they want it.[/QUOTE]
Swedish to English translations are hard for them as seen in many descriptions, I'm sure they meant the game is finished in terms of gameplay, not bugs.
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