They should add a Scream mask
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i want the good ol' chains dino mask from payday 1 (and maybe the soundtrack masks)
[QUOTE=Demeschik;42062849]The "same van every time" shit really gets on my nerves, especially when Bain says "switch car failed" before an escape mission. Well, shit, no wonder it failed if it's the same fucking van. They should add random skins for it. Where do I pitch this idea?[/QUOTE]
Tbh they should have made the van a generic white van, so they can get it mixed up with all the utility vans and the police would have trouble tracking the right one.
[QUOTE=dead60;42068599]On the next heist, my team managed to fail street escape where the helicopter picks you up from one of two roofs. The pubbies somehow walked around the perimeter of the building instead of going up the stairs. I didn't think failing that was even possible, but it was.[/QUOTE]
To be honest I couldn't find the stairs on the red building at first either. I didn't even know you could go on that building until I ran to the top of the grey one and the helicopter wasn't there.
[QUOTE=dead60;42068599]Well, I just had the worst half hour of public matches. I had a host who was so far up his on arse it was unbelievable. He threatened to kick someone because they were connecting later than anyone else, then mid-game he kicked him for no reason.
On the second day of firestarter he was over-ruling everyone, I was placing my C4 on the doors and he just came up sawing everything in sight then placed the drill even though he wasn't enforcer.
He demanded to carry the bag, even though I had mule and fast hands too, and so I was kicked for not letting him have the bag.
On the next heist, my team managed to fail street escape where the helicopter picks you up from one of two roofs. The pubbies somehow walked around the perimeter of the building instead of going up the stairs. I didn't think failing that was even possible, but it was.[/QUOTE]
I've been kicked by the dumbest hosts. I once tried to full-stealth Framing Frame with a pub group, and there were two ghosts. I suggested to the host to buy the camera feed asset on Day One, and he said "We really don't need it." Because I'm a noisy-as-hell Technician, I usually manage cameras or spot gaurds from the roof. They got caught within a minute of mission start because of a gaurd's corpse showing up on camera.
I said, "Wow, you guys are sure stealthy. You might have known about that if you had bought the camera asset." to which I got "wow stfu dmaster" from one ghost and a "let's just get rid of this guy" where I was kicked promptly after. So I was thrust back into the crappy matchmaking system that is Crime.net to look for another Framing Frame lobby.
[QUOTE=Dmaster;42069279]
I said, "Wow, you guys are sure stealthy. You might have known about that if you had bought the camera asset."[/QUOTE]Nobody likes a smartass
It might have been being a smartass, but the sheer fact of saying that you upright don't need it because you are that good (they bragged about stealthing it solo a bunch of times) and then getting caught within a minute of getting in the museum deserves a small amount of criticism, don't you think?
[QUOTE=Dmaster;42069385]It might have been being a smartass, but the sheer fact of saying that you upright don't need it because you are that good (they bragged about stealthing it solo a bunch of times) and then getting caught within a minute of getting in the museum deserves a small amount of criticism, don't you think?[/QUOTE]
People make mistakes. They may have done it many times before without the asset, and something just went wrong this one time.
You frankly don't need it. If you really need overwatch, put people on the rooftops. But really it isn't necessary if you have a ghost who actually knows what they are doing and is dual spec'd in to Mastermind.
[QUOTE=Dmaster;42069385]It might have been being a smartass, but the sheer fact of saying that you upright don't need it because you are that good (they bragged about stealthing it solo a bunch of times) and then getting caught within a minute of getting in the museum deserves a small amount of criticism, don't you think?[/QUOTE]
mistakes never happen ofc
Sometimes I really don't understand why people try to sneak in certain missions. I understand you want to feel like you can do something all stealth, but...
Spend an hour stealth, or spend a quick 10 minutes going guns blazing (while getting the same pay)?
No I am not talking about Framing Frame.
[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;42069439]People make mistakes. They may have done it many times before without the asset, and something just went wrong this one time.[/QUOTE]Especially since it's easy to get fucked over with the cam placement on FF.
Honestly, you don't really need cam feed on FF period. Just have anyone who's loud move paintings once the front is clear.
I mean, its not hard to keep track of four patrolling guards and one standing at a desk. I literally make my first priority to take out the desk guard, cart is his body out behind the plants out front, then carefully take out the others.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;42069465]Sometimes I really don't understand why people try to sneak in certain missions. I understand you want to feel like you can do something all stealth, but...
Spend an hour stealth, or spend a quick 10 minutes going guns blazing (while getting the same pay)?
No I am not talking about Framing Frame.[/QUOTE]Because not counting having to restart if you fuck up, stealthing is honestly a lot easier. No need to worry about dying, no need to worry about ammo. Just do what you have to do and get out.
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[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42069482]I mean, its not hard to keep track of four patrolling guards and one standing at a desk. I literally make my first priority to take out the desk guard, cart is his body out behind the planets out front, then carefully take out the others.[/QUOTE]I always save him for last since he's the most trigger happy. Lure the others into the bathroom.
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;42069489]Because not counting having to restart if you fuck up, stealthing is honestly a lot easier. No need to worry about dying, no need to worry about ammo. Just do what you have to do and get out.[/QUOTE]
I guess I am saying this in the perspective of a tank, having both iron man armor and the technician's shield buff, nothing really takes me down.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;42069512]I guess I am saying this in the perspective of a tank, having both iron man armor and the technician's shield buff, nothing really takes me down.[/QUOTE]Eh, I'm a MM/Ghost build. I'm basically a glass support character, and my only saving grace is that I pick everybody up as much as they pick me up.
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;42069489]Because not counting having to restart if you fuck up, stealthing is honestly a lot easier. No need to worry about dying, no need to worry about ammo. Just do what you have to do and get out.
[editline]3rd September 2013[/editline]
I always save him for last since he's the most trigger happy. Lure the others into the bathroom.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter how trigger happy he is as a corpse. And having the entire lobby open means you can easily move in and out of that area without worry. Its not hard to use the sculptures to get close to him, move up to the desk, then slip around and smash him in the back.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;42069465]Sometimes I really don't understand why people try to sneak in certain missions. I understand you want to feel like you can do something all stealth, but...
Spend an hour stealth, or spend a quick 10 minutes going guns blazing (while getting the same pay)?
No I am not talking about Framing Frame.[/QUOTE]
I really can't take it when people try to stealth Bank Heist. Come ON. I always no matter what try to go along with it, but its just stupid.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42069537]It doesn't matter how trigger happy he is as a corpse. And having the entire lobby open means you can easily move in and out of that area without worry. Its not hard to use the sculptures to get close to him, move up to the desk, then slip around and smash him in the back.[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong, I kill him too and use the lobby. He just makes me the most nervous since he has an eagleye and I have an inherent distrust of silenced weapons even after they buffed them.
What if stealthing a multi-day heist gave you multiple cards?
[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;42069617]What if stealthing a multi-day heist gave you multiple cards?[/QUOTE]
There should be a reward for stealthing overall.
Bank heist is the kind of heist that a high leveled enough ghost and a mastermind with the right skills can stealth quite easily with a little bit of cooperation, of course you can't expect that in a pub
My gripe is that unlike other heists like framing frame where you can advance through the mission in stealth and get some objectives done before you get caught, bank heist is all or nothing, chances are you'll have to lock the whole place down if you want to start drilling, so you can spend an hour trying to get rid of guards, if you get spotted it was all wasted time
[QUOTE=Zadrave;42069622]There should be a reward for stealthing overall.[/QUOTE]
Well then I guess it cant be material gain. Because Ukraine Job would instantly become farming bait all over again.
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;42069556]Don't get me wrong, I kill him too and use the lobby. He just makes me the most nervous since he has an eagleye and I have an inherent distrust of silenced weapons even after they buffed them.[/QUOTE]I just move behind the sculptures, then up to his desk. If you press right to it at a corner he can't see you.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;42069465]Sometimes I really don't understand why people try to sneak in certain missions. I understand you want to feel like you can do something all stealth, but...
Spend an hour stealth, or spend a quick 10 minutes going guns blazing (while getting the same pay)?
No I am not talking about Framing Frame.[/QUOTE]
Get this
People are playing the game to actually play the game instead of just playing to get paydays really fast, and stealth is their preferred play-style
[QUOTE=Bazsil;42069555]I really can't take it when people try to stealth Bank Heist. Come ON. I always no matter what try to go along with it, but its just stupid.[/QUOTE]
yeah. it drives me up a wall. especially when you could just walk in with nothing but shotguns and own the joint and stop any heavybody that tries to enter the lobby.
[QUOTE=PieClock;42069662]Get this
People are playing the game to actually play the game instead of just playing to get paydays really fast, and stealth is their preferred play-style[/QUOTE]
Doesn't make it any less boring for the guys who have to sit on the roof and spot
[QUOTE=PieClock;42069662]Get this
People are playing the game to actually play the game instead of just playing to get paydays really fast, and stealth is their preferred play-style[/QUOTE]
aka one player pretty much stealths the whole mission while the other three lounge about because there's nothing for them to do
I feel they need to provide an experience reward for bag collection over the required mission objective. Reduce the base payout for jobs like Rats and Firestarters. But make each additional bag gives a bonus. It would encourage people to actually do Rats properly instead of just destroying the lab and rushing through.
So i bought the game, was playing till i tried to join with a friend and we got an error that was due to a version mismatch etc. So i let steam rollback that new patch, and now my game is locked at 30 fps with horrible input lag.
The result is that the game is currently unplayable. the googles tell me nothing. Anyone have ideas, im just gonna reinstall in the mean time though.
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;42069783]Ahahaha oh good fucking jesus every frenchie I run in to in this game is a fucking douche.
Join Pro Firestarter Overkill, guy asks me if I have ammo bag which one guy already has equipped and I say no, I had trip mines equipped and so did he, I was kicked so I added the guy for an explanation, he told me there was no need for c4 on ''pyro'', I asked him why he had trip mines equipped then and I was simply told ''lol stay with ur trip mines hf''.
Fuck, just going to avoid frenchies from now on as much as I can, they either kick you out of the blue, or for a bad fucking reason, or talk in fucking french to their friend while leaving 2 players in the dark about what they're going to do.[/QUOTE]
Bonus points for having them earraping you with shitty childish voices and hardly knowing a few words in English.
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