[QUOTE=Mike Tyson;42104604]no matter what they do you would complain. if they crashed, youd yell at overkill for the game crashing, and if they leave them out you complain about them not being in the game
(i dont mean you in general, i mean anyone really)[/QUOTE]
...Of course we would. It's a valid complaint. You wouldn't be okay with them releasing L4D2 without the Smoker, [I]or[/I] leave it crashing people's games. You fix a major enemy type [I]immediately.[/I]
plus it's working in that mod video so idk
[QUOTE=azure 505;42104318]I've personally gone through big oil day 1 without setting off an alert
you have to kill the bikers super quick if they see you, but it's possible
[editline]6th September 2013[/editline]
also it acts a bit weird after you kill all of the bikers - if you fire a loud weapon it immediately calls the cops in even though there's nobody to hear it[/QUOTE]
Well it's theoretically possible, you just aren't supposed to. That's why they programmed it so that [I]anything[/I] calls the cops, be it gunfire, or the gangster's telepathic link to the police station.
I always hoped it was a bug or a stopgap, and that they would implement proper stealth when they had the time, but that answer seems to confirm they won't and never will.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;42104627]Its the same with Firestarter day 1. Though if they see a dead body it wont set off the alarm as long as you kill them quick enough.[/QUOTE]
If they're alert for more than a second, cops are called. Yesterday we got the cops on us because we attacked one with we didn't melee kill him fast enough. 3 melee hits to kill them, his alertness from being punched the first time got the cops called even though he didn't even get a chance to stand back up.
It's shit gameplay mechanics tbh. I understand they don't want stealth to be easy, but the solution makes the game just seem broken above all else. Not even the literal fucking cops trigger a police invasion as fast as they do.
Makes me wonder though, is it possible with 4 players armed with silenced M14's, aimbots, and trigger bots, to successfully storm the FS Hanger without the cops being triggered? :v:
[QUOTE=Ericson666;42104792]plus it's working in that mod video so idk[/QUOTE]
the mod video is singleplayer and in the safehouse
so today i respec'ed away from the lucky charm perk because i felt it was useless
got 2 infamous masks today, first a blank chains and then a wolf just a few minutes ago
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42104821]Well it's theoretically possible, you just aren't supposed to. That's why they programmed it so that [I]anything[/I] calls the cops, be it gunfire, or the gangster's telepathic link to the police station.
I always hoped it was a bug or a stopgap, and that they would implement proper stealth when they had the time, but that answer seems to confirm they won't and never will.
If they're alert for more than a second, cops are called. Yesterday we got the cops on us because we attacked one with we didn't melee kill him fast enough. 3 melee hits to kill them, his alertness from being punched the first time got the cops called even though he didn't even get a chance to stand back up.
It's shit gameplay mechanics tbh. I understand they don't want stealth to be easy, but the solution makes the game just seem broken above all else. Not even the literal fucking cops trigger a police invasion as fast as they do.
Makes me wonder though, is it possible with 4 players armed with silenced M14's, aimbots, and trigger bots, to successfully storm the FS Hanger without the cops being triggered? :v:[/QUOTE]
Actually its closer to a tenth of a second if they see you. A half second or so for if they see a body. It can be weird. Also not possible to storm the FS hangar. Minute one sees a body they'll all set each other off. You have to watch their patrols and kill them as they leave sight of each other. For the hangar itself you'll have to shoot all 2-6 without them seeing each other as well. Its possible but hard.
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;42102182]Oh yes it is.[/QUOTE]
Wow, so does he have a Turtle Beach headset he only uses when he feels like yelling at the gang?
[QUOTE=Mellowbloom;42104583]someone edit that old comic about that pandemic game where madacascar shuts everything down when someone sneezes
except its almir shutting down the game when someone looks at the files[/QUOTE]
Hope its good enough for you
[t]http://i.imgur.com/GnbiorT.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=AlphaAGENT;42103871]GP-5, not GP-6.
GP-6 was a massive failure because "LETS GIVE A MASK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO PROTECT SKIN EAR HOLES"
But I digress.
This is a GP-5 for the record.
[t]http://www.aurbanski.bsk.vectranet.pl/images/gp51/GP5_1_002.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
If we get a white gasmask in this game, i'm going to wear it as Hoxton and call myself Mr. Foster
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;42104898]Actually its closer to a tenth of a second if they see you. A half second or so for if they see a body. It can be weird. Also not possible to storm the FS hangar. Minute one sees a body they'll all set each other off. You have to watch their patrols and kill them as they leave sight of each other. For the hangar itself you'll have to shoot all 2-6 without them seeing each other as well. Its possible but hard.[/QUOTE]
You know what my dream for gangster stealth missions would be? Have certain gangsters with cell phones. If you fuck up so that one with a phone is alerted (easy, since gangsters are trigger happy [I]and[/I] always overwatching each other), he'll try to call for backup. If he does, many more gangsters show up and act as the first Assault wave (only difference is it won't say "POLICE ASSAULT" at the top). Once that wave begins winding down, the SWAT arrive in response to the huge shootout, and begin their own operations.
A friend of mine introduced [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mG-4DmDjWLc"]this song[/URL] to me the other day while we were robbing a gold-stash.
[I]I stole your diamonds and gold, what are you, gonna do?
I stole your diamonds and gold, what are gonna do about it?
You'll do without it.[/I]
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42105470]You know what my dream for gangster stealth missions would be? Have certain gangsters with cell phones. If you fuck up so that one with a phone is alerted (easy, since gangsters are trigger happy [I]and[/I] always overwatching each other), he'll try to call for backup. If he does, many more gangsters show up and act as the first Assault wave (only difference is it won't say "POLICE ASSAULT" at the top). Once that wave begins winding down, the SWAT arrive in response to the huge shootout, and begin their own operations.[/QUOTE]
I want to see harder stealth missions. Much harder ones. Stuff like having two guards at the same door with only one entrance. Requiring team work to do stuff. Check ins and such every x minutes. Right now its very much a waiting game. To stealth firestarter I take 15 minutes because I have to wait for guards to wander into the back, kill them, hide the bodies. Examine the guards who's patrols don't venture into the back, shoot them one by one until I can deal with the hangar. Then I watch their patrols, then take them out one by one making sure to avoid them seeing each other die.
It gets kind of funny when you shoot a guy at the top of stairs with a guy facing away from them at the base and he doesn't even realize his buddy is dead.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;42104096]...custom textures...[/QUOTE]
Custom textures are fairly easy to do.
[img_thumb]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/920144122956434154/E64ACC7E490DB2D798BCE63D3BF788047A613C3F/[/img_thumb]
[url]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=168183122[/url]
yo guys what do you think of the fine wood texture on the hockey mask?
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/576747965772646212/03A87C62442D06B2A7FB424E3966075DC584512B/[/t]
i kinda like the way it looks (except for that pattern...bloody game never gives me good patterns)
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;42101011]It seriously pisses me off that the fucking CAMERAS act as their own entity. Like they have some sort of supreme artificial intelligence that lets them be self aware and always working on the side of justice.
You know how the fucking things see a corpse and the CAMERA alerts the police? or if the CAMERA spots you, it starts freaking the hell out?
shouldn't it, you know, alert the fucker in the security room watching the cameras? I cannot fucking describe how many times my friends and I had been doing a mission, everything going fine, and then the fucking omnipotent self aware HAL9000 security system detects a source of great evil and greed in its midst and alerts the police.
Thats fucking horseshit.
If a camera spots you and gets to the maximum alert thing, it should trigger the fucker in the security room to call in for backup, giving you precious seconds to run to door and use either a keycard or an ECM jammer to break the door open and ice the guy before he ruins all your fun.
The guard at the bank that watches the camera actually has a name among my group, we either call him Jymal or Toby and always go muzzle-stuff him with the Mosconi when he fucks up our heists.[/QUOTE]
I, for one, welcome our new surveillance camera overlords.
[editline]6th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zeos;42104663]...Of course we would. It's a valid complaint. You wouldn't be okay with them releasing L4D2 without the Smoker, [I]or[/I] leave it crashing people's games. You fix a major enemy type [I]immediately.[/I][/QUOTE]
Eh, I haven't noticed a huge difference without them, just less bullshit getting knocked down out of nowhere deaths.
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;42105837]yo guys what do you think of the fine wood texture on the hockey mask?
i kinda like the way it looks (except for that pattern...bloody game never gives me good patterns)[/QUOTE]
tbh I don't think the wood texture fits the hockey mask. I think it'd be good for masks like the Oni or the Skull.
Fuck me, i am truly an ass for not spotting the thing before :suicide:
[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;42104579]Cause they supposedly crash the game.[/QUOTE]
No, the reason Cloakers are still not added is because their AI is pretty shit. They can't decide if they're supposed to shoot or kick you so there are instances where they just stare at a you until you kill them.
Not to mention that their pathing is pretty shit too, they easily get stuck on level geometry.
[QUOTE=riki2cool;42106730]No, the reason Cloakers is still not added is because their AI is pretty shit. They can't decide if they're supposed to shoot or kick you so there are instances where they just stare at a you until you kill them.
Not to mention that their pathing is pretty shit too, they easily get stuck on level geometry.[/QUOTE]
Just make them have the AI of an Assault Wave turtle and, if in cuffing range, they kick.
Goddamnit I miss my Beef mask. I'd have it back by now if SOME GAME would stop giving me piss yellow colors and fine wood materials (up to fucking 7 at this point). I have pretty much everything needed for it, the Outlander mask, chrome blue material for the star background and the infamous red/white colors for the stripes, but god forbid I get the one nation under god pattern to drop.
God forbid I get anything other than fucking weapon mods
I bet I could get 2 of every mod before I get a mask
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;42106813]God forbid I get anything other than fucking weapon mods
I bet I could get 2 of every mod before I get a mask[/QUOTE]
Lets play a drinking game, take a shot when you get 2 weapon mods in a row.
I just got the flag decal.
I'm gonna put it on my Wolf Begins mask with a blue material and a yellow colour.
Only problem is that I don't have a pure yellow colour, only yellow and puke green.
[QUOTE=Ayane-152;42106835]Lets play a drinking game, take a shot when you get 2 weapon mods in a row.[/QUOTE]
I don't feel like dying.
It's funny because I enjoy getting weapon mods.
[QUOTE=Ayane-152;42106835]Lets play a drinking game, take a shot when you get 2 color mods in a row.[/QUOTE]
FTFY.
[editline]7th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42107088]It's funny because I enjoy getting weapon mods.[/QUOTE]
I never get those, i´m only getting colour mods/anything i do not use :|
Okay guys, so after 2 hours of trying to get the "Guessing Game" achievement I can safely say that it is in no way plausible to do. Fuck whoever came up with the idea for it.
[IMG]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/901006906487269550/D82ED92D2C5B12E336B5258E6DC39066D4C8C09C/[/IMG]
WTF I doubled.
[QUOTE=riki2cool;42107204]Okay guys, so after 2 hours of trying to get the "Guessing Game" achievement I can safely say that it is in no way plausible to do. Fuck whoever came up with the idea for it.[/QUOTE]My guess, just repeatedly access the same two boxes over and over until eventually you get the right ones.
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