We must stay positive. We can´t survive the world in other ways.
[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;42144894]I need to try Mosconi/Loco combo for fun. Is it any good?[/QUOTE]
It was my main loadout for ages now.
[QUOTE=Agoat;42145561]You guys are the best! :j[/QUOTE]
No prob, really nice vid.
Also did anybody encounter a bug where bots would mask on while you're still in stealth? I've had that happen a few times, really annoying.
[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;42144894]I need to try Mosconi/Loco combo for fun. Is it any good?[/QUOTE]
Surprisingly so. On a lot of heists you just don't need anything for ranges beyond what the Mosconi can do, and you have a huge amount of CQC firepower on tap. Especially if you have the Enforcer perk for faster shotgun reloads, that is the icing on the Mosconi cake.
[QUOTE=Hammer7;42142618]How about bars WITH numbers?[/QUOTE]
Personally I feel the bars are way better for at-a-glance stat comparison, I don't want to have to flip back and forth a million times looking at numbers. The only stats that actually needed numbers were magazine and total ammo
[QUOTE=Mr. Tastee;42146085]Personally I feel the bars are way better for at-a-glance stat comparison, I don't want to have to flip back and forth a million times looking at numbers. The only stats that actually needed numbers were magazine and total ammo[/QUOTE]
I'd rather have the ability to make accurate accounts for the statistics of my weapons at the cost of like two extra seconds, than have to guesstimate based on bars because some people dont want to do like first grade math
[QUOTE=Bazsil;42146126]I'd rather have the ability to make accurate accounts for the statistics of my weapons at the cost of like two extra seconds, than have to guesstimate based on bars because some people dont want to do like first grade math[/QUOTE]
Has nothing to do with not wanting to do 'first grade math', If you can't look at two bars and tell if one is fuller than the other, then there's a problem. The anal retentive OMGINEEDTOMINMAX numbers are just a hindrance, with the exception of magazine & total ammo
Edit : I should also note, showing us numbers with no relevance is why I dislike the number system. If its showing you have a recoil of 14, what's the max recoil? Is it 20? Is it 100? Without a frame of reference it's just confusing, whereas a bar being a quarter full would tell you about how much recoil it has compared to a bar that's entirely full. It's just a simple matter of ease of use and good UI design.
[QUOTE=Mr. Tastee;42146202]Has nothing to do with not wanting to do 'first grade math', If you can't look at two bars and tell if one is fuller than the other, then there's a problem. The anal retentive OMGINEEDTOMINMAX numbers are just a hindrance, with the exception of magazine & total ammo
Edit : I should also note, showing us numbers with no relevance is why I dislike the number system. If its showing you have a recoil of 14, what's the max recoil? Is it 20? Is it 100? Without a frame of reference it's just confusing, whereas a bar being a quarter full would tell you about how much recoil it has compared to a bar that's entirely full. It's just a simple matter of ease of use and good UI design.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it will at least be consistent across weapons, unlike the current system.
I have an AK.762 and AK5, both have the same amount of recoil because of the mods I have on them, yet the AK.762 kicks like a motherfucker, but with the AK5 I can pretty much go full auto without ever going off target.
[QUOTE=Mr. Tastee;42146202]Has nothing to do with not wanting to do 'first grade math', If you can't look at two bars and tell if one is fuller than the other, then there's a problem. The anal retentive OMGINEEDTOMINMAX numbers are just a hindrance, with the exception of magazine & total ammo
Edit : I should also note, showing us numbers with no relevance is why I dislike the number system. If its showing you have a recoil of 14, what's the max recoil? Is it 20? Is it 100? Without a frame of reference it's just confusing, whereas a bar being a quarter full would tell you about how much recoil it has compared to a bar that's entirely full. It's just a simple matter of ease of use and good UI design.[/QUOTE]
Detailed weapon stats are just a hinderance! Why would you care about precision? You're just being anally retentive!
Considering minmaxing has nothing to do with what I'm saying, it looks like you're just throwing shit out and hoping something sticks.
[QUOTE=Eldariub;42145619]No prob, really nice vid.
Also did anybody encounter a bug where bots would mask on while you're still in stealth? I've had that happen a few times, really annoying.[/QUOTE]
Once on Framing Frame Day 1, Hoxton put on his mask and casually walked around the museum unarmed.
The guards didn't give a shit.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42146631]Once on Framing Frame Day 1, Hoxton put on his mask and casually walked around the museum unarmed.
The guards didn't give a shit.[/QUOTE]That usually happens when someone on your team leaves while you're still not detected
I wish more guns were moddable to the extent of the CAR-4. Having one gun that can be modded to fit any situation kinda defeats the point of having large weapon variety
Wow
Fuck votekicking
I bro around with 3 guys, we get through the first 2 days of rats overkill pro easy
One of them fucks up and the bus explodes (Not my fault, I was keeping cops off their back) so they kick me just as the last person gets to the chopper with the money
Fucking bullshit
[QUOTE=Bazsil;42146443]Detailed weapon stats are just a hinderance! Why would you care about precision? You're just being anally retentive!
Considering minmaxing has nothing to do with what I'm saying, it looks like you're just throwing shit out and hoping something sticks.[/QUOTE]
Again, it's just good UI design. Just because it's more detailed doesn't automatically make it 'better'.
[QUOTE=Mr. Tastee;42146917]Again, it's just good UI design. Just because it's more detailed doesn't automatically make it 'better'.[/QUOTE]
I'll take numbers over bars any day.
PC games with vague bars for mouse sensitivity must have had influence from some ring of hell.
[QUOTE=Doom14;42147237]I'll take numbers over bars any day.
PC games with vague bars for mouse sensitivity must have had influence from some ring of hell.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, for things like that obviously you would want a number, even a number/bar system! That's just a given, it -should- have an actual value. Just like the FOV slider.
What I was getting at is that putting an arbitrary number up and giving no frame of reference is stupid, and all they did was clutter it all up, it's terrible design.
From their concept picture, the total (white text) is at the beginning, common sense dictates it should be at the end, no one tallies from right to left. Giving us a random number and saying this gun has 5 damage means absolutely nothing, if they aren't giving us a frame of reference [I]like a bar would provide.[/I] They could of even put a number inside the bar for reference, at least then the amount of the bar filled would tell us more than just a number
[QUOTE=Mr. Tastee;42147880]What I was getting at is that putting an arbitrary number up and giving no frame of reference is stupid[/QUOTE]
I agree that it's stupid because it does make it arbitrary (to an extent.) However, base values are always nice. Especially when I know, say, 15 damage is enough to headshot HRT and 14 isn't.
One easy solution is to have the bars in the selection screen (the 3x3 grids) and the numbers in the modification screen.
[QUOTE=MarioInATopHat;42142188][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTz6_tZCMAEDgvs.jpg:large[/IMG]
from goldfarb's twitter[/QUOTE]
Neat.
What skill gives the plus ammo cap?
[QUOTE=RichyZ;42146700]that kobra sight gives me a big willie if only because fucking finally we get a rds that isn't a dumb holographic sight/a rds that obscures half the screen with its edges[/QUOTE]
Professionals Choice/Surgeon Sight ftw
[QUOTE=Eldariub;42145619]No prob, really nice vid.
Also did anybody encounter a bug where bots would mask on while you're still in stealth? I've had that happen a few times, really annoying.[/QUOTE]
Was doing Firestarter with two people, we managed to stealth the last day pretty good, but I completely forgot about the electrified drill, and started firing my silenced gun, and it was okay because nobody was noticing.
UNTIL DALLAS CRASHED THROUGH THE WINDOW AND SPOOKED EVERYONE.
[QUOTE=mcattack1092;42147971]Neat.
What skill gives the plus ammo cap?[/QUOTE]
Fully loaded in the enforcer tree.
Wait, we are getting a huge update with all this content or a huge update+DLC?
[QUOTE=KayoDuck;42148734]Wait, we are getting a huge update with all this content or a huge update+DLC?[/QUOTE]
Looks like both, Goldfarb was going on about "This Changelog..." on twitter so it has to be huge
And we're due for Armored Truck
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/581251986142036666/76A9D97B119A80F793A3AACE6E58535321D9E213/[/t]
Huh, never noticed that before. Haven't seen it happen with any other window frames, only that one. Doesn't happen when I'm on the outside looking in or when I'm standing in the window frame, only like that.
Anyway, how is the Technician skill tree? I'm considering re-speccing out of Mastermind (Because I'm sick of how useless dominator/joker and the revive-allies-by-shouting skills are. Dominator rarely works and when it does, 90% of the time your teammates will just instantly shoot the dude before you can convert them. Revive by shouting is really glitchy, it seems to get over-ridden by shouting at cops or civilians so unless the person who's downed has no-one around them you won't be able to do it and sometimes it takes as many as five shouts to get them up, and with how long that takes you might as well just run up and revive them normally.) and Technician looks more interesting than Enforcer.
So...what did I unlock? Nothing?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/K7MtN73.jpg[/t]
Also got a new Dallas design
[t]http://i.imgur.com/2LMsnJB.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;42151428][t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/581251986142036666/76A9D97B119A80F793A3AACE6E58535321D9E213/[/t]
Huh, never noticed that before. Haven't seen it happen with any other window frames, only that one. Doesn't happen when I'm on the outside looking in or when I'm standing in the window frame, only like that.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it's caused by a little vent under that window on the outside. I've seen it while on the outside looking in.
[QUOTE=Ayane-152;42151513][t]http://i.imgur.com/2LMsnJB.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
I didn't know Spongebob played PAYDAY.
