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[QUOTE=Masamune;48675303]Face Warrior's a popular thing now? Sheesh, every season players get lazier and lazier. Soon any archetype other than aggro will be nonexistent.[/QUOTE] Which is why the core mechanics of the game need tweaking, rather than try to drown out the old content with new OP content. I was thinking about a mechanic that would destroy Face by making it harder to hit face, and that is the concept of Rows. Imagine having a Front Row and Back Row in Hearthstone, where the Hero can only be attacked if there are no minions on the Front Row. Taunts would still have relevance, since if you attacked minions on either row you would still need to remove the Taunt first, although to balance against "Turtle decks" perhaps Taunts on the Back Row would only protect Back Row minions, or you could only deploy Taunts on the Front Row. And perhaps certain Minions would only be playable on the Back Row, while most Minions could be playable on either Row like normal. Yes, it would be more complex and slow things down a little, but if it's a choice between having to think more about placement and having to tolerate cheap-arse dumb-fuck Face decks being the dominant strategy, it's not really a choice in the first place. And besides, it's not like Magic where you have to wait for response phases whenever you play anything.

[QUOTE=Masamune;48675731]I also don't really get the love for Fel Reaver. Every popular deck right now has an easy way to deal with him. Mage? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and have a sheep to show for it. Shaman? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and have a frog (with taunt!) to show for it. Paladin? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and have a 1/8 that will burn even more cards to show for it. Hunter? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and it probably died to Hunter's Mark. Priest? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and it got SW:Death'd. Warrior? Wasted a turn, burned 3 (or perhaps 6 if they used Inner Rage or Cruel Task), Executed. The only two classes where it has any sort of chance of survival are probably Druid and Warlock. The former it's almost guaranteed to live, and the latter depends whether you're playing Handlock or Zoolock.[/QUOTE] At least Fel Reaver's good in Arena where you don't care as much about burning your deck (and the diversion of the hard removals), but it is pretty strange that it gets run in Constructed decks...[b]especially[/b] when probably 3/4th of all the decks have at least one BGH to get rid of it. Also, expanding on Mage, she can freeze the Fel Reaver and end up making the owner waste even more cards.

If you're a priest, you can play a Fel Reaver and use a 0 mana silence on it.

Boom! [t]http://i.imgur.com/y9Oz4Nk.png[/t] I managed to win Heroic Kel'Thuzad on my second try with a Majordomo combo deck :v:

I got my first Legendary today... Deathwing!

[QUOTE=Chickens!;48675687]Why play if youre only gonna play hit face and use owls on taunts? Legit question i dont understand how people enjoy face decks, secret paladin and demon zoo i can understand, But face hunter is a mystery to me.[/QUOTE] It's one of the very few decks that can be played "optimally" without any legendaries or epics. Most other cheap(ish) decks run at the very least Dr. Boom and probably a few epics.

I was playing Tavern Brawl yesterday and I was taking a beating, enemy had a full board of 2 Piloted sky golems, egg, two 4 drops and totems (that's 6 extra deathrattle minions in deathrattle TB). I had only 2 Boom bots and a Haunted creeper. I play Acidmaw (from Webspinner) and Feign Death and the following happens: First bomb hits Sky golem, it dies (because of Acidmaw) and spawns only one guy on full battlefield. Second bomb hits the second Sky golem. None of the eight bombs (2x2 from Feign Death, 2x2 from suiciding the Boom bots) hit the egg and I clear everything else. Shaman concedes. Hearthstone: Binding of Isaac double random poison bombs edition.

[QUOTE=Chickens!;48670062]I still think it needs work but currently I'm getting a positive winrate vs all the tryhard decks on ladder. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/YxqO9R5.png[/IMG] Wanna try work a Loatheb in, or rework it for dragon synergy or beast synergy. I think the weakest cards in there are the Druids of Flame but the 2/5 is hard to remove for the Force combo. I dunno :D Play the eggs and spiders, buff the eggs and spiders. Nerubian doesnt interfere with your Druids because they arent battlecries and it becomes a STRONK minion with mark of the wild.[/QUOTE] I made a few alterations to this, and started running it. So far, I'm on a winstreak of 4 (Rank 9), so I'm liking it quite a bit. Thanks for the deck!

I was having a blast playing against other newbies for a day or two and all of a sudden I starting getting matched against so many people with fully kitted decks and legandaries, it just didn't seem fun knowing they had such a massive card advantage. How long does it take to get cards without paying? I feel like unlocking cards in-game is a big part of the game and so I don't intend to buy packs. I'm probably not going to play if every match feels so stacked against me.

It's the same deal with every card game: people who have played longer will have more cards than you. People who have paid more will have more cards than you. People who have paid more but played the same might still be "better" than you because PhDs 6 and 7 are very [I]balanced[/I] cards that they probably have. I'd stay away from casual and just keep playing ranked. There's no beating around the bush with Wizard Poker, it takes quite a bit of time to catch up in terms of collection and it's only going to get worse.

[QUOTE=Masamune;48675731]I also don't really get the love for Fel Reaver. Every popular deck right now has an easy way to deal with him. Mage? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and have a sheep to show for it. Shaman? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and have a frog (with taunt!) to show for it. Paladin? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and have a 1/8 that will burn even more cards to show for it. Hunter? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and it probably died to Hunter's Mark. Priest? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and it got SW:Death'd. Warrior? Wasted a turn, burned 3 (or perhaps 6 if they used Inner Rage or Cruel Task), Executed. The only two classes where it has any sort of chance of survival are probably Druid and Warlock. The former it's almost guaranteed to live, and the latter depends whether you're playing Handlock or Zoolock.[/QUOTE] It costs five mana. A five mana card that is worth Polymorphing seems pretty good to me. It's run in a midrange deck that has big threats but is still oriented around pushing face damage. So baiting out removal is good and burning the cards rarely matters. Plus it also has the whole Mech synergy with that deck.

[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20516268/Hearthstone/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2009-14-15%2009.02.31.png[/t] next level plays

[QUOTE=Greenen72;48680512][t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20516268/Hearthstone/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2009-14-15%2009.02.31.png[/t] next level plays[/QUOTE] Did this work, or did the priest just stall for 6 mana?

[QUOTE=Greenen72;48680512][t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20516268/Hearthstone/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2009-14-15%2009.02.31.png[/t] next level plays[/QUOTE] You can brewmaster it back if you run a gimmicky stealy priest deck.

[QUOTE=MajorWX;48680521]Did this work, or did the priest just stall for 6 mana?[/QUOTE] He was on 7 health I think, topdeck ice lance lethal

Today I've gotten Sylvanas from Thoughtsteal and Mind Controlled Ysera but the fuckers have conceded too quickly for me to use them. I want to pretend, you assholes, don't take this away from me.

[QUOTE=AeroSinthetic;48680120]It costs five mana. A five mana card that is worth Polymorphing seems pretty good to me. It's run in a midrange deck that has big threats but is still oriented around pushing face damage. So baiting out removal is good and burning the cards rarely matters. Plus it also has the whole Mech synergy with that deck.[/QUOTE] "Baiting out removal" and burning 3 cards with your biggest threat outside of Antonidas (unless you run Boom as well), who you never drop without getting at least one Fireball from, doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

[QUOTE=Masamune;48680847]"Baiting out removal" and burning 3 cards with your biggest threat outside of Antonidas (unless you run Boom as well), who you never drop without getting at least one Fireball from, doesn't make a whole lot of sense.[/QUOTE] the only two decks I've seen run Fel Reaver are mechmage and mechshaman, both have the synergy and both hope to have the game sealed by turn 5ish The plan is usually that the opponent will use their executes/fireballs/sheep/hunter's mark/etc on your smaller stuff because they'll probably die otherwise, and when the 8/8 comes out they're out of ways to remove it (and sometimes the small cards that burn your deck) And if they BGH it, your Dr. 7 lives

Usually fel reaver baits out a lot more than it deserves because people want you to burn cards, when the other cards dont matter as much so you have less removal to deal with on other cards

[QUOTE=Masamune;48675731]I also don't really get the love for Fel Reaver. Every popular deck right now has an easy way to deal with him. Mage? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and have a sheep to show for it. Shaman? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and have a frog (with taunt!) to show for it. Paladin? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and have a 1/8 that will burn even more cards to show for it. Hunter? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and it probably died to Hunter's Mark. Priest? You wasted a turn, burned 3 cards, and it got SW:Death'd. Warrior? Wasted a turn, burned 3 (or perhaps 6 if they used Inner Rage or Cruel Task), Executed. The only two classes where it has any sort of chance of survival are probably Druid and Warlock. The former it's almost guaranteed to live, and the latter depends whether you're playing Handlock or Zoolock.[/QUOTE] The thing is that burning cards doesn't mean shit in the slightest unless you hit fatigue And "oh no I could've gotten Boom in 2 turns" could've have been "I am gonna get Boom sooner", you can't possibly know that and you're just gonna get other cards instead so it doesn't matter either unless, again, you hit fatigue. Technically all the cards you don't play in a match are "burned cards" Also if your hand is capable of winning the game alone, danger of fatiguing is less of an issue

Hahahahah what the fuck, either bug or cheating, but this priest had an UNKILLABLE blob of slime. The thing that spawns a copy of itself. It was literally unkillable. [editline]14th September 2015[/editline] "My apologies." [editline]14th September 2015[/editline] As in, the minion went literally 0 HP, and then I even Dark Bombed it, and it kept on living.

[QUOTE=Blueplastic;48682082]The thing is that burning cards doesn't mean shit in the slightest unless you hit fatigue And "oh no I could've gotten Boom in 2 turns" could've have been "I am gonna get Boom sooner", you can't possibly know that and you're just gonna get other cards instead so it doesn't matter either unless, again, you hit fatigue. Also if your hand is capable of winning the game alone, danger of fatiguing is less of an issue[/QUOTE] I hate this argument. What if you had a Finicky Cloakfield and whatever the +1 attack spare part is inhand when you played Fel Reaver, and your opponent Hunter's Mark-Arcane Shots/Polymorphs/whatevers your Fel Reaver and the first card you burn is Antonidas/Boom/your second Reaver? You just got your only other real win conditions burned outside of flooding the board and dodging clears. Whether or not you know what your next 3 cards are is [I]completely[/I] irrelevant.

[QUOTE=Masamune;48682367]I hate this argument. What if you had a Finicky Cloakfield and whatever the +1 attack spare part is inhand when you played Fel Reaver, and your opponent Hunter's Mark-Arcane Shots/Polymorphs/whatevers your Fel Reaver and the first card you burn is Antonidas/Boom/your second Reaver? You just got your only other real win conditions burned outside of flooding the board and dodging clears. Whether or not you know what your next 3 cards are is [I]completely[/I] irrelevant.[/QUOTE] What if antonidas/boom were exactly after those 3 cards? It goes both ways. And you're right, whether or not you know what your next 3 cards is irrelevant because you'll just get the next one which might be antonidas, the only problem is when you have no cards to draw. Your issue with it is just in your head, just imagine them being the last 3 cards instead. [editline]14th September 2015[/editline] Like I said, all the cards left in the deck at the end of the match are burned cards that would've fueled Reaver if you had played him

[QUOTE=Masamune;48682367]I hate this argument. What if you had a Finicky Cloakfield and whatever the +1 attack spare part is inhand when you played Fel Reaver, and your opponent Hunter's Mark-Arcane Shots/Polymorphs/whatevers your Fel Reaver and the first card you burn is Antonidas/Boom/your second Reaver? You just got your only other real win conditions burned outside of flooding the board and dodging clears. Whether or not you know what your next 3 cards are is [I]completely[/I] irrelevant.[/QUOTE] if you burn antonidas, still have cards in your deck and the match ends before you draw all of them, then it is literally no different than if antonidas was at the bottom of your deck

Maybe it's just as priest, but I think I typically end with less cards in my deck than I would expect to loose if I played Fel Reaver more often than not.

Are you able to see Burrowing Mine / Ambush if you use Tracking?

[QUOTE=Sandvich9;48684106]Are you able to see Burrowing Mine / Ambush if you use Tracking?[/QUOTE] I would assume but I have no idea.

[QUOTE=Masamune;48682367]I hate this argument. What if you had a Finicky Cloakfield and whatever the +1 attack spare part is inhand when you played Fel Reaver, and your opponent Hunter's Mark-Arcane Shots/Polymorphs/whatevers your Fel Reaver and the first card you burn is Antonidas/Boom/your second Reaver? You just got your only other real win conditions burned outside of flooding the board and dodging clears. Whether or not you know what your next 3 cards are is [I]completely[/I] irrelevant.[/QUOTE] I would think that a deck with so few win conditions wouldn't run fel reaver.

Burning cards is the same thing as reshuffling your deck, as long as you don't hit fatigue. Three cards end up at the bottom of your deck, which doesn't change anything since the card order is random in the first place. Sometimes it will discard a win condition, but sometimes it will make you draw a win condition by discarding the other cards. Of course if you run a deck that needs to draw all the cards to get to a specific win condition then playing Fel Reaver will just make you fatigue.

[QUOTE=Kljunas;48686146]Burning cards is the same thing as reshuffling your deck, as long as you don't hit fatigue. Three cards end up at the bottom of your deck, which doesn't change anything since the card order is random in the first place. Sometimes it will discard a win condition, but sometimes it will make you draw a win condition by discarding the other cards. Of course if you run a deck that needs to draw all the cards to get to a specific win condition then playing Fel Reaver will just make you fatigue.[/QUOTE] Seems like you could easily lose 6 or 9 in just the next turn.