The Elder Scrolls Megathread XV: A Song of Ice and Draugr - Games

As much as the faces make me laugh. Oblivion was such a great experience with all the landscapes. If Bethesda made Oblivion 2.0 on even the "creation engine" I'd buy it likely.

[QUOTE=Brt5470;40658936]As much as the faces make me laugh. Oblivion was such a great experience with all the landscapes. If Bethesda made Oblivion 2.0 on even the "creation engine" I'd buy it likely.[/QUOTE] I enjoyed Oblivion much more then Skyrim

Oblivion's still my favorite game of all time.

I find it hilarious that now a successor to Oblivion has been made, suddenly tons of people are saying it's their favorite ever. I remember when so many people called it irredeemable shit and praised Morrowind instead.

I honestly put far more hours into Oblivion across both the 360 and the PC than I did Morrowind. So I do have to say that Oblivion is probably my favorite of the Elder Scrolls series.

Oblivion didn't have a terrible story that's why, something that mods can't fix

Speaking of Oblivion, I'm starting a mage playthrough this very moment, and I'm having trouble with what race to choose. Hearts for Breton, or Paints for Altmer?

[QUOTE=Lomme;40657884]They may look like arse, but at least they have a bit of character. Just look at this sexy beast: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NNbGxBE.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] [img]http://media.sfx.co.uk/files/2010/04/210410who_smiler3.jpg[/img] ?

Oblivion is my favourite. I never once disliked it, and it was the first Elder Scrolls game I played. I thought the faces were odd, but that was it. It had enough stats and different skills to level up without being a major hassle, the landscapes were pretty, and although combat felt stiff, it wasn't all that bad. I would definitely like to have Oblivion return using Skyrim's engine.

I don't see what you guys see in Oblivion. If you ask me it's the second worst Elder Scrolls game, right after Arena.

[QUOTE=Ermac20;40659522]I enjoyed Oblivion much more then Skyrim[/QUOTE] I think you people need to replay oblivion. While I miss the class creation/better quest writing, skyrim is objectively a much better game in basically every other facet. Still though, definitely going to Oblivion a replay once Nuska finishes that awesome face texture/model overhaul. [SUB][SUB]wish she'd be faster[/SUB][/SUB] [editline]16th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Tripp;40661635]I don't see what you guys see in Oblivion. If you ask me it's the second worst Elder Scrolls game, right after Arena.[/QUOTE] Totally agree. Morrowind > Daggerfall > Skyrim > Oblivion > Arena, IMO

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;40661643]I think you people need to replay oblivion. While I miss the class creation/better quest writing, skyrim is objectively a much better game in basically every other facet. Still though, definitely going to Oblivion a replay once Nuska finishes that awesome face texture/model overhaul. [SUB][SUB]wish she'd be faster[/SUB][/SUB] [editline]16th May 2013[/editline] Totally agree. Morrowind > Daggerfall > Skyrim > Oblivion > Arena, IMO[/QUOTE] nah. skyrim's quests and guilds were poop in comparison to oblivion. oblivion made you feel very much like a part of the world, whereas most of the time I felt like a visitor in the world of skyrim. that's what oblivion had in common with morrowind. morrowind and oblivion are on par with one another, each just values something different in terms of overall experience. skyrim was great and certain things were awesome - especially the better stealth system - but so few of those improved elements were implemented properly that the experience was significantly more underwhelming than oblivion was.

[QUOTE=Lomme;40657884]They may look like arse, but at least they have a bit of character. Just look at this sexy beast: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NNbGxBE.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] [img]http://www.creativemab.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Geris-Game.png[/img] ?

[IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/1368688139939.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/1368688675390.gif[/IMG] 10/10

So is there a mod or something I could get for Morrowind that makes the fog look more like Ash? I love the Fog, it really helps solidify the "Ashy Desert Wasteland" feel, but is there any way I could change it to make it look more like dust or sand or ash or something?

[QUOTE=Mr. Tripp;40662596]So is there a mod or something I could get for Morrowind that makes the fog look more like Ash?[/QUOTE] I couldn't find the exact texture, but i sort of managed to get the right feeling: [video=youtube;sB_O_pWYPiw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB_O_pWYPiw&feature=youtu.be[/video] EDIT: Well, it's not Morrowind, but it should be fine.

No, I mean like this [T]http://www.bluesnews.com/screenshots/games/morrowind/20011005/fog.jpg[/T] Everywhere you go has really thick fog to cover up the lack of a draw distance, which is fine, but I want a mod that say makes it look more like ash or sand, something that looks like it belongs on a wasteland filled with volcanoes.

Why not just use a vanilla Distant Land config?

[QUOTE=HubmaN;40663311]Why not just use a vanilla Distant Land config?[/QUOTE] Because I want to keep the fog, not remove it?

Morrowind has the best story and environment and even though I love that game the gameplay just seems so dated in comparison to say Oblivion or Skyrim. The complexity's there, it's just the execution has not aged well.

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;40661711]nah. skyrim's quests and guilds were poop in comparison to oblivion. oblivion made you feel very much like a part of the world, whereas most of the time I felt like a visitor in the world of skyrim. that's what oblivion had in common with morrowind. morrowind and oblivion are on par with one another, each just values something different in terms of overall experience. skyrim was great and certain things were awesome - especially the better stealth system - but so few of those improved elements were implemented properly that the experience was significantly more underwhelming than oblivion was.[/QUOTE] Yeah part of the world maybe because the world is constantly aware of everything you're doing and blatantly modifying itself in front of your eyes. Like I said, I think you need to go back and actually play oblivion in all it's insane level scaling, potato faced, tree palette spamming, wild-weapon-flailing combat glory to gain some realistic perspective rather than just relying on recollection. Skyrim's world design is far more caring and handcrafted, the combat is better, stealth is better, magic casting is better, level scaling is better, character design is staggeringly better, the dungeon design is marginally better (except for all the fucking draugr). Oblivion really doesn't have any single quality that isn't beat out by one of the other TES titles. As a whole package it's a pretty awesome game but it's hardly worthy of all the merit that has suddenly been thrown at it since skyrim's release.

[QUOTE=benzi2k7;40662274][IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/1368688139939.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE] How did you get footage of me playing Oblivion?

[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;40664512]Realism. Or are you telling me you wouldn't backpedal and shoot fireballs at the enemies in a world full of idiots who will run towards you in a straight line?[/QUOTE] How about shooting fireballs toward the ground or in places that would completely miss the enemy, yet it homes in on them. I've seen so many MMOs that try to make the combat intriguing, yet it still includes common MMO elements. Why can't they just use a normal combat system as featured in non-MMOs? Planetside 2 did it quite recently, and I've only seen people praising that game.

Neverwinter as some really fun combat, but the rest of it is kinda tat.

Most drawn out mudcrab battle I've ever seen

[QUOTE=Skyward;40664785]Neverwinter as some really fun combat, but the rest of it is kinda tat.[/QUOTE] I tried playing that game as a mage. "You can't use this spell without a target" I stopped playing that game as a mage. [sub][sub][sub][sub]Actually, there were several other reasons I found the combat to be uninteresting and slowly paced, but that was at least my first impression.[/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub]

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;40664227]Yeah part of the world maybe because the world is constantly aware of everything you're doing and blatantly modifying itself in front of your eyes. Like I said, I think you need to go back and actually play oblivion in all it's insane level scaling, potato faced, tree palette spamming, wild-weapon-flailing combat glory to gain some realistic perspective rather than just relying on recollection. Skyrim's world design is far more caring and handcrafted, the combat is better, stealth is better, magic casting is better, level scaling is better, character design is staggeringly better, the dungeon design is marginally better (except for all the fucking draugr). Oblivion really doesn't have any single quality that isn't beat out by one of the other TES titles. As a whole package it's a pretty awesome game but it's hardly worthy of all the merit that has suddenly been thrown at it since skyrim's release.[/QUOTE] nah. usually i'm the one to call out people for the rose-tinted glasses thing, but oblivion & morrowind still hold up (morrowind takes a bit of effort though). replayed oblivion two years ago and i put 200+ hours into it. without any questing mods. because i was driven to do everything - and I still didn't manage to do it all. playing skyrim i hit 100 hours (which is still great) but I felt absolutely zero incentive to go on past that point and I hadn't done the companions or mages' guild. most of the way, as well, many of the quests felt more chore-like than actually interesting. that's the real problem, it's just not written well, and none of the quests are interesting. yes, the combat and stealth are better. that's undeniable. if you think the magic is better you're on crack. character design is hardly better, they felt like caricatures in comparison to oblivion or morrowind. Which is an accomplishment given that they finally got a few more voice actors. Sure they looked better, but few of them were believable characters. RPGs center around questing - any and all other elements can be forgiven if the overarching story and the component quests are [I]interesting.[/I] Skyrim should've beaten out oblivion, because in theory it's overarching story is way more interesting. but it just isn't. the component quests are better and significantly more diverse in oblivion.

I never really disliked Oblivion except for not being able to delete spells from your spellbook (the inevitability of a cluttered spellbook scared me away from mages) and the Daedric-weapons-everywhere style levelling system has soured me to the game. If my laptop could run the game better and I could use mods to fix those two problems (which exist so yay) then I would be happy playing Oblivion.

[QUOTE=Ermac20;40659776]Oblivion didn't have a terrible story that's why, something that mods can't fix[/QUOTE] It's story was pretty generic and Oblivion gates suck though The problem with Oblivion was the landscape was increadibly uninspired and the same no matter where you went, the dungions were all the same (but at LEAST they played different depending on their type - i.e. a ruin would play totally different to a cave, but all caves played exactly the same), the NPC's were awful, the voice acting was awful, etc. Also, THE worst level scaling / difficulty scale in the history of RPG games as a whole. Literally the only redeeming qualities of Oblivion was it had decent faction questlines (that still weren't as nice and logical as Morrowind's), and the questing in general was pretty decent. Oh, and the RPG system, while shallow and kind of dumb, at least had a sense of you making a character. Meanwhile Skyrim is pretty much better in every single reguard, but the storyline is even dumber, the questlines are some of the worst in RPG history, and the questing in general is really bad. Worse of all, the game only wants you to quest all the time, which makes the gameplay feel even worse. However, it's much more enjoyable and much better made on a moment-to-moment and world-design basis than Oblivion was. I.E. pretending to be a hunter who doesn't quest at all in Skyrim is much better than doing the same thing in Oblivion. [editline]16th May 2013[/editline] That said Oblivion is still a good game to play. I don't think I could ever go back to it after skyrim, but it's not a bad game overall. Of course with skyrim I'm not really playing it anymore, at least not until I finish my mod and some of the better mods come out for it. Which'll be a while.

Is it the "argue which game was the best"-time of the thread again?