does moving saves from a DF version with tileset to another DF with another tilset (or no special tileset) have any strange side effects, or will the world work fine in both versions with the only difference being looks?
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it's because mayday hasn't updated to 05 yet (as it's been out less then a day), and while playing with the ASCII default is doable, it's still very different :v:
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edit: okay i may have modded goblins to reproduce at a ridiculous rate but i wasn't expecting this
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so my golbin liaison just brought me news, a lot of news
[img_thumb]http://oi59.tinypic.com/5d341c.jpg[/img_thumb]
tl;dr the goblins are fucking conquering everything
i think i may have made a huge mistake
Ok holy shit its been about 9 hours and my fortress has truely become the Las Vegas of the dwarf world. Its now teeming to the brim with miasma, ghosts, lizardmen, and vampires, all which try to carve a niche into the absolutely nonexistant society. Only the strong survive and get to procreate like aphids, meaning I now have a group of terrifying people, who are all too happy to attack each other when they get bored.
In fact, this mix is so volatile that they have been able to repel several goblin sieges with little effort, whilst annihilating the attacking forces. 4 trade caravan liasons have been brutally murdered, the other one has been imprisoned for no good reason. Almost every day another dwarf succumbs to insanity, adding fuel to the fire.
But what a fire it is! Its having a steady population of about 400 dwarves and I have no idea how the fuck ive done this .
400 dwarves? why in gods name did you up the limit so high
are you getting like 3 FPS
[QUOTE=Orkel;45524382]400 dwarves? why in gods name did you up the limit so high
are you getting like 3 FPS[/QUOTE]
yeah...
I literally have NO idea how this settlement is thriving. I havnet even touched it, and population is still expanding. I wonder if its a bug or its just a perfect storm. I'll take a couple screenshots when dwarf fortress starts responding again
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[t]http://i.imgur.com/y3eO6Uz.png[/t]
Here is one of the aboveground entrances, its mostly dwarf filled
I'll see if I can get the units list up the next time the game unfreezes.
thats not 400 dwarves, you only have like 9 idlers
are you confusing hundreds of cats showing up on the unit screen to dwarves, or accidentally counting dead dwarves as alive?
[QUOTE=Tureis;45521656]Why shouldn't a person take giant jack rats? Do they require too much to graze on?[/QUOTE]
They are way more expensive (jack rats cost 19, giants cost 101) and don't breed as quickly. They still breed fast, but I'm fairly sure it takes longer for them to grow into adulthood, and IMHO its better to have a dozen or more jack rats than a tiny handful of giants. The tiny ones also have larger litter sizes, I believe.
[QUOTE=Orkel;45524827]thats not 400 dwarves, you only have like 9 idlers
are you confusing hundreds of cats showing up on the unit screen to dwarves, or accidentally counting dead dwarves as alive?[/QUOTE]
No, I got the count from the dwarves alive screen. What are idlers? I'm pretty new to dwarf fortress, and I have no idea what its supposed to mean considering how it just randomly fluctuates. Also when dwarf fortress unfreezes I'll try to screenshot the units screen.
[QUOTE=mn_chaos;45524927]No, I got the count from the dwarves alive screen. What are idlers? I'm pretty new to dwarf fortress, and I have no idea what its supposed to mean considering how it just randomly fluctuates. Also when dwarf fortress unfreezes I'll try to screenshot the units screen.[/QUOTE]
It means they aren't doing shit, just milling around being useless.
Hows the modded Kobolds? I would like to add it to my menagerie of of races I have atm.
[QUOTE=Jrose14;45525027]It means they aren't doing shit, just milling around being useless.[/QUOTE]
sounds like what i do most of the time
[QUOTE=JesseR92;45525181]Hows the modded Kobolds? I would like to add it to my menagerie of of races I have atm.[/QUOTE]
Well they only really do anything when you play as them.
Otherwise, they are normal kobolds, just like vanilla.
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Whenever I get a caravan my fucking trader decides to take a season long break, its annoying as shit.
[QUOTE=Jrose14;45525491]Well they only really do anything when you play as them.
Otherwise, they are normal kobolds, just like vanilla.
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Whenever I get a caravan my fucking trader decides to take a season long break, its annoying as shit.[/QUOTE]
I would like to see how a kobold fort goes,do they have caravans if you dont play as them?
I have records of Kobolds on my current world that have lived Conan like lives of stealing from and killing many Goblins.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;45525807]I would like to see how a kobold fort goes,do they have caravans if you dont play as them?[/QUOTE]
Not as far as I know. They won't trade with anyone but other kobolds because everyone is constantly at war with them. Which always confuses me, "oh no they stole a wheel of cheese, better break out the military."
Though I did read that if Kobolds successfully steal from a fort like four times in a row they will besiege it with a squad of copper or leather equipped kobolds.
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If you do play as them, though, you get a caravan practically every season from other kobolds. And lots of migrants. And children.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;45512667]If your fort is very social then yes,Parties level up social skills too so it can help any under leveled traders.[/QUOTE]
The funny thing was, this kid had the highest of any of those stats. The only person that had even close to his stats was a high-master in all those. The problem is though, they were a kid too.
[QUOTE=Amaurus;45526313]The funny thing was, this kid had the highest of any of those stats. The only person that had even close to his stats was a high-master in all those. The problem is though, they were a kid too.[/QUOTE]
That's because all kids do is socialize, since they can't work.
do you guys think 12 z-levels is deep enough for a lethal fall
[QUOTE=No_0ne;45526473]do you guys think 12 z-levels is deep enough for a lethal fall[/QUOTE]
I'd say 20.
gonna put some upright spikes at the bottom just in case
Any fall is a lethal fall when the pit is filled with the sacred blood of Armok
Unless you're a magma immune creature
the pit ran into an underground cavern, i guess i'll just dump unwanted dwarves into there
and by unwanted i mean werewolves and vampires
especially werewolves
fuck werewolves
[QUOTE=No_0ne;45526859]the pit ran into an underground cavern, i guess i'll just dump unwanted dwarves into there
and by unwanted i mean werewolves and vampires
especially werewolves
fuck werewolves[/QUOTE]
Killing a vampire is like smashing a pristine machine. They don't need to drink, eat, nor sleep. Put them in a grand lever room or something. Werewolves are pretty useless though.
Both of them make pretty fine supersoldiers
Is like the only downside to having a vampire be that he'll just randomly kill people to feed?
[QUOTE=axelord157;45527207]Killing a vampire is like smashing a pristine machine. They don't need to drink, eat, nor sleep. Put them in a grand lever room or something. Werewolves are pretty useless though.[/QUOTE]
My fort's for pureblood dorfs only thank you very much
[QUOTE=No_0ne;45526473]do you guys think 12 z-levels is deep enough for a lethal fall[/QUOTE]
40 just to be sure. You could do 10 with an upright spear trap as the fall will stun them so they cant dodge.
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[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45527498]Is like the only downside to having a vampire be that he'll just randomly kill people to feed?[/QUOTE]
Youd think so but for whatever reason they will go for the most valuable of dorfs oh that master mason you have producing the most legendary statues to facilitate happy thoughts dead, all 7 of your armor smiths dead,your legendary Militia commander better believe he is dead.
You either condemn them to an eternity of lever pulling and record keeping or you have a hammerer smash them to a pulp.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45527498]Is like the only downside to having a vampire be that he'll just randomly kill people to feed?[/QUOTE]
That and they're just about guaranteed to become your mayor due to several lifetimes worth of socializing. Not a big deal if you get one that demands something like beds, really shitty if you've got someone obsessed with something like anvils.
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[QUOTE=axelord157;45527207]Killing a vampire is like smashing a pristine machine. They don't need to drink, eat, nor sleep. Put them in a grand lever room or something. Werewolves are pretty useless though.[/QUOTE]
Except due to the buggy handling of vampire thirst mechanics, they slow down the same way dwarves with no booze do due to... well, not drinking booze.
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[QUOTE=No_0ne;45526473]do you guys think 12 z-levels is deep enough for a lethal fall[/QUOTE]
I used 10 and it wasn't sufficient most of the time, but it's really fucking amusing watching a horde of sentients and zombies slam into each other. Best way to do it is to have a short path leading out that also has a couple weapon traps and a cage trap at the end to be sure. Also makes it possible to deal with flying enemies.
[editline]28th July 2014[/editline]
Phoebus, Ironhand, Mayday, and CLA are all updated to 0.40.05.
So anyways I just got done playing my first game and I plan on sticking with it but since this first hour has just been me learning, I don't really have much to say besides I see the appeal and the potentially huge amount of fun I can have with this game.
I've just found out that the Lazy Newb Pack is really outdated, should I just stick with this anyways or is it paramount to update right here right now. Am I really missing much?
Yeah, I don't tolerate vampires or werethings because they simply cannot behave and they're really not that useful. I mean it would be nice if vampires would only drink what I tell them to drink or werecreatures would only go batshit crazy in combat, but... no, they do it whenever and wherever.
They are parasites and must be purged from the world along with all other heresy.
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Oh how convenient. Hello, Mr. Minotaur!
Ready the magma chamber, for the unclean have arrived to be cleansed of their sins.
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