The Super Smash Bros. Discussion and HEY join this idiots http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Smashpunc

[VinLAURiA]

[QUOTE=elowin;44238676]They're actually pretty different though? They play completely differently.
Atleast in the actual Infamous games, never played Playstation All-Stars.[/QUOTE]
They play differently in All-Stars as well, from what I've heard. Good Cole is much more precise and projectile-based while Evil Cole is an up-close bruiser, just as in the actual games. Completely different movesets, despite being the same character.

I'm surprised they didn't do a Zelda/Sheik thing with him, actually. Would've made more sense with the rival system and all, instead of essentially putting Cole in two different rivalries.

[ProfessorAssHat]

[QUOTE=elowin;44238676]They're actually pretty different though? They play completely differently.
Atleast in the actual Infamous games, never played Playstation All-Stars.[/QUOTE]

Their main difference is their Circle attacks, which are all different from both variations of Cole, and then he also has some minor gameplay differences in his Triangle attacks that help spice both of them up in their own unique way.

[BoxinShrimp]

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Please do go on.[/QUOTE]

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Nintendo is just as guilty with this shit as Sony. I'm sure there are tons of zelda characters that could be fighters in Smash Bros besides Link, Zelda and Ganon.

[Eltro102]

skull kid

[TurboDweeb]

i don't think this needs arguing

let's just agree that all-stars was an awkward clone attempt that could have used a lot more love

[MissingGlitch]

[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;44239103]
Nintendo is just as guilty with this shit as Sony. I'm sure there are tons of zelda characters that could be fighters in Smash Bros besides Link, Zelda and Ganon.[/QUOTE]

Darunia 4 smash.
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[Y'all.]

[QUOTE=The Stills;44233493]Well the thing is, if they do put Simon Belmont in, I have a feeling he'll be styled on his design in Mirror of Fate rather than the original series.

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Not a particularly bad design, but definitely not the Simon Belmont that's known and loved by everyone.[/QUOTE]

they used megamans classic design, why not use simon's? i feel like they would stay true to the NES games if they did put him in the game.

[Kegan]

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Nintendo is just as guilty with this shit as Sony. I'm sure there are tons of zelda characters that could be fighters in Smash Bros besides Link, Zelda and Ganon.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't help when those three characters share extremely similar specials, and Gannondorf being a fucking Captain falcon clone twice in a row is pretty inexcusable.

[PSI Guy]

honestly i love majora's mask as a game but i never gave a damn about skull kid. i can kind of understand mask-link as a character request but skull kid just isn't that interesting, he's just a vehicle for majora's mask to use and i'd rather not have a 6th zelda character.

[Zeos]

Why [I]is[/I] Ganondorf a clone?

[The Stills]

[QUOTE=Y'all.;44239276]they used megamans classic design, why not use simon's? i feel like they would stay true to the NES games if they did put him in the game.[/QUOTE]

Capcom aren't using the blue bomber for anything current at the moment, they only use him for the nostalgia card. Konami probably would rather that Nintendo use the most current design of Simon in an attempt to keep the Lords of Shadow IP relevant.

It's like how new Dante was used in Sony All-Stars rather than his original design.

[Y'all.]

[QUOTE=PSI Guy;44239305]honestly i love majora's mask as a game but i never gave a damn about skull kid. i can kind of understand mask-link as a character request but skull kid just isn't that interesting, he's just a vehicle for majora's mask to use and i'd rather not have a 6th zelda character.[/QUOTE]

well, yeah, people want him in the game BECAUSE he's the vehicle for majora's mask to use. are you suggesting that just having the mask by itself as a playable character would be better?

[editline]15th March 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=The Stills;44239427]Capcom aren't using the blue bomber for anything current at the moment, they only use him for the nostalgia card. Konami probably would rather that Nintendo use the most current design of Simon in an attempt to keep the Lords of Shadow IP relevant.

It's like how new Dante was used in Sony All-Stars rather than his original design.[/QUOTE]

good point i guess. i feel like sakurai would want to use his classic design, though, but yeah maybe he wouldn't be allowed to

[PSI Guy]

[QUOTE=Y'all.;44239445]well, yeah, people want him in the game BECAUSE he's the vehicle for majora's mask to use. are you suggesting that just having the mask by itself as a playable character would be better?
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considering how the mask never actually fights when worn by skull kid? i don't think the mask itself would be a better option because i don't consider either skull kid or majora to be good fighter material

[QUOTE=Zeos;44239318]Why [I]is[/I] Ganondorf a clone?[/QUOTE]

sakurai wanted to make the roster bigger, he saw how ganondorf kind of stands similarly to falcon and has a similar build so he made ganondorf into a falcon clone

he also considered wario as a mario clone but decided against it so we got the doc instead

[ClauAmericano]

Speaking of Wario, I kinda wish he had more similarity to his Wario Land 4 moves.
Use to love that game on the Gameboy as a child.

[MrBalrog]

i want ghirahim in smash 4
make it happen nintendo

[rufia]

[QUOTE=PSI Guy;44239540]considering how the mask never actually fights when worn by skull kid? i don't think the mask itself would be a better option because i don't consider either skull kid or majora to be good fighter material[/QUOTE]
Compared to what? Villager? Wii Fit Trainer? Rosalina?

[Y'all.]

[QUOTE=PSI Guy;44239540]considering how the mask never actually fights when worn by skull kid? i don't think the mask itself would be a better option because i don't consider either skull kid or majora to be good fighter material[/QUOTE]

they could totally come up with a cool moveset for skull kid. they have more to work with for him than a lot of characters that have already been in the series imo.

[ClauAmericano]

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[Sift]

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Please do go on.[/QUOTE]
Re-read my post, the last part of it where I said they didn't use the characters they probably should of.

Also to be COMPLETELY fair, Superbot intended for there to only be one Cole and he'd switch between evil and good. Sucker Punch heard about it and said if they didn't split him into two characters then they wouldn't allow Cole to be in at all.

Edit: Seriously Sucker Punch considers Evil and Good to be two completely different characters and fought with them over it. "EVIL COLE WOULDN'T SUDDENLY BE GOOD MISREPRESENTATION."

[Ray-The-Sun]

[QUOTE=Zeos;44239318]Why [I]is[/I] Ganondorf a clone?[/QUOTE]
Melee had a bunch of lazy clones, and Ganondorf was the only one that stuck.

[Bug-a-boo]

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Nintendo is just as guilty with this shit as Sony. I'm sure there are tons of zelda characters that could be fighters in Smash Bros besides Link, Zelda and Ganon.[/QUOTE]
I was actually pointing out that sony was just as guilty as nintendo, We already knew nintendo was guilty of it.

[editline]14th March 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=Sift;44239937]Re-read my post, the last part of it where I said they didn't use the characters they probably should of.

Also to be COMPLETELY fair, Superbot intended for there to only be one Cole and he'd switch between evil and good. Sucker Punch heard about it and said if they didn't split him into two characters then they wouldn't allow Cole to be in at all.

Edit: Seriously Sucker Punch considers Evil and Good to be two completely different characters and fought with them over it. "EVIL COLE WOULDN'T SUDDENLY BE GOOD MISREPRESENTATION."[/QUOTE]
To be completely fair, The point still stands.

[PSI Guy]

[QUOTE=Y'all.;44239864]they could totally come up with a cool moveset for skull kid. they have more to work with for him than a lot of characters that have already been in the series imo.[/QUOTE]

they can come up with a cool moveset for anyone, why not put that effort onto someone who isn't a one-off villain from the black sheep of 3d zelda

[Rammlied]

The game it came from or whether or not he's a one-off character really doesn't matter, actually you could say that Uprising was a one-off game and therefor pit shouldn't be a character

[rufia]

[QUOTE=PSI Guy;44240112]they can come up with a cool moveset for anyone, why not put that effort onto someone who isn't a one-off villain from the black sheep of 3d zelda[/QUOTE]
Actually he's appeared in three major zelda games; OoT, MM and TP.

[PSI Guy]

[QUOTE=Rammlied;44240169]The game it came from or whether or not he's a one-off character really doesn't matter, actually you could say that Uprising was a one-off game and therefor pit shouldn't be a character[/QUOTE]

uprising is the 3rd KI game
pit is the only rep of his franchise; not the 6th like skull kid
pit is the hero of all 3 games in his franchise; not a one off villain like skull kid

see captain falcon had shit made up for his fighting but he represents f zero by himself, so i'm a little more lenient to that then adding a completely made up moveset for a franchise that already dominates smash

[QUOTE]Actually he's appeared in three major zelda games; OoT, MM and TP.[/QUOTE]
and he was only important in majora's mask. let's be honest, no-one wants skull kid in because of his groundbreaking role in oot or tp.

[Bug-a-boo]

[QUOTE=PSI Guy;44240112]they can come up with a cool moveset for anyone, why not put that effort onto someone who isn't a one-off villain from the black sheep of 3d zelda[/QUOTE]

He's not the main villain of Skyward sword though.

[hamsterjuice]

you know who wouldn't be a clone character? goku

[Bug-a-boo]

[QUOTE=Hamsterjuice;44240270]you know who wouldn't be a clone character? goku[/QUOTE]

he'd be a lucario/ mewtwo clone, Disable would become solar flair. Final smash would be warp kamehameha etc.

[hamsterjuice]

brb killign myself

[A B.A. Survivor]

Goku is so original that Lucario would be a clone of him.