The Super Smash Bros. Discussion and HEY join this idiots http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Smashpunc - Games

[IMG]https://31.media.tumblr.com/03b7e235ab279a4b9fc10e92d940e2d6/tumblr_n3qpdlZxCk1toqguko1_500.jpg[/IMG] well technically he is but

Wish I had a timestamp but was rewatching the direct on the wii-u and at one point they showed someone using the blue shell (but didn't call attention to it) Strangely it just hovered over a characters head that was hit with it, the character got knocked off the stage and tried jumping back but fell short, then the shell turned upside down and fell with him.

[QUOTE=dai;44503302]if it's not too late, I'd suggest making it a bit shorter and to the point. That other one dragged on a bit long, not only in overall duration but some of the clips in particular dragged on.[/QUOTE] Well the deed is done: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WMZwhdDEJ4&[/media]

[QUOTE=Fangz;44505036]Well the deed is done: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WMZwhdDEJ4&[/media][/QUOTE] Most annoying song? More like best song. Friends will rue the day when Ashley (English) is set to 100% and WarioWare Inc is picked.

I uploaded that new arrangement of the super smash end credits theme that plays near the end of the Nintendo Direct. [video=youtube;u4SO42sCRwU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SO42sCRwU[/video]

I would kill for a newly arranged Melee theme.

So many throwbacks in these themes. I especially love the fighter selection music from the original SSB that was thrown in. Really nice touch.

[QUOTE=Sift;44504432]Dark Dawn is awful and you're literally the only person I've ever seen say anything resembling a positive emotion to it. Absolutely awful characters, terrible writing, bland music, broken battle system, uninteresting story in general it was just awful. Worse is it made me go back to the first golden sun games to clean my mouth out and man they were just as bad with bloated cutscenes, and awful combat. Only reason I liked it as a kid I guess is because flashy lights and the great graphics for it's time. [sp]It genuinely upsets me as I championed Golden Sun for years as a kid and drew nonstop fanart and whatnot[/sp] Edit: There's a reason Dark Dawns sequel got canned and the team moved on. :([/QUOTE] i liked it too and thought it was a worthy sequel speak for yourself

[QUOTE=murple;44505231]i liked it too and thought it was a worthy sequel speak for yourself[/QUOTE] I agree, it is a worthy sequel. Because the original games are bad. [editline]10th April 2014[/editline] [url]http://lparchive.org/Golden-Sun/Update%2001/[/url] Here's a good LP of someone trying to fix the games, take a look if your memory is foggy.

[t]https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzRxOvysi6rU3ko[/t] [quote] Pic of the day. Samus and Zero Suit Samus!! How will she match up with her new jet boots? [/quote]

[QUOTE=Sift;44505422]I agree, it is a worthy sequel. Because the original games are bad. [editline]10th April 2014[/editline] [url]http://lparchive.org/Golden-Sun/Update%2001/[/url] Here's a good LP of someone trying to fix the games, take a look if your memory is foggy.[/QUOTE] screw you they where awesome just because your taste has gone bad dosent mean you can start shit with fans fans who liked it you traitor. btw lets plays are cancerous way to fail proving a point

[QUOTE=Sift;44505422]I agree, it is a worthy sequel. Because the original games are bad. [editline]10th April 2014[/editline] [URL]http://lparchive.org/Golden-Sun/Update 01/[/URL] Here's a good LP of someone trying to fix the games, take a look if your memory is foggy.[/QUOTE] Try linking a less tryhard LP that bitches at typical game design less because holy shit this thing is anal. Your fixation on "i'm right you're wrong let me educate you you peasant" is childish over the game. Yeah, they're typical RPGs, wow. Also they're popular so I must be special if I don't like them. TLDR [IMG]https://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/vp/image/1369/09/1369094536515.jpg[/IMG] No fun allowed no psyenergy piers only final destination

I got rated dumb repeatedly for saying Isaac seemed uninteresting as a character and Golden Sun seemed like a generic RPG, so I actually tried Golden Sun and I felt that it was uninteresting and generic. The story was so hilariously rail-roaded and unoriginal (Here's the path! No, sorry, a boulder fell on it, try a different one, Literally 4 times) the graphical style was far too ambitious for the GBA and ended up just making me wish it was higher-resolution or 3D (Something games like Mother or Link to the Past never did because they worked so well within the limitations) and the story exposition was unclear on some things and way, way too specific about others. I've hardly even started it and already I'm tired of it. Got through the intro and that was enough.

Good for you. Can we talk about Super Smash Bros now? I think it would be nice if Klonoa made it in. That's a nice thing to talk about. Also, I hope Lucas returns but he doesn't have much hope. [editline]10th April 2014[/editline] Toon Link was a horrible sign for the possible inclusion of clones without altered movesets, I really hope that clones because even more diverse than in Brawl.

You seem awfully defensive over a bad game. Maybe you should chill out. Also lol at the LP being a tryhard thing, how dare anyone point out flaws in the writing or give suggestions on how to make it less bloated. Absolutely awful. [img]http://oi61.tinypic.com/2nuocqv.jpg[/img] Goldensunsexcellentwriting.png

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[QUOTE=Reds;44505715]And you seem very dedicated to telling me how bad of a game it is. To the point that you appear to be repeatedly dragging this off-topic to point out that I'm wrong and the game suck and here's x y z reasons why and nobody cares. Take it somewhere else, I want to talk about Super Smash Bros. If I say "ok, whatever, moving on" it makes you childish for trying to keep going. If you insist on keeping going after this, you'll only prove my point. I'm glad they realised that Sheik's whip was pretty useless, but her new grenade attack seems to just be Snake's grenade, which doesn't bode well for Snake.[/QUOTE] Just saying it's really immature to go "no your a dumb idiot if you respond I'm right about everything now lets change the topic because *I* get the final word :smug:" People were talking about Isaac getting into smash as a full fledged character. I mentioned Golden Sun being bad and was told "No it's great" so posted that no, it really isn't and it's probably just those tinted goggles. It's called a conversation. There's been no name calling, no insults, just talking about a series that people want in and others like myself have aged absolutely terribly. Throwing a tantrum when someone says "no man the game actually isn't as good as you probably remember" and calling others elitest is just dumb. Edit: Seriously, arguing back and saying "IF YOU RESPOND I'M RIGHT ALL ALONG" just to get the last word in then trying to offhand change the topic is really wimpy come on dude. Edit 2: Man even looking back Flying man gave his opinion and you basically shot him down with "Who gives a fuck about what you think?" What is wrong with you dude. If you don't like the conversation or it offends you, you don't gotta take part in it. It's fine! But trying to control what others are talking about just because you don't like it is dumb. I should probably get all my thoughts down at once before hitting post cause man this has been edited to hell and back

[QUOTE=Mr.Cookie;44505110]I uploaded that new arrangement of the super smash end credits theme that plays near the end of the Nintendo Direct. [video=youtube;u4SO42sCRwU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SO42sCRwU[/video][/QUOTE] No lie, as I listened to this during the direct, memories of my entire history with Smash bros, starting from Smash64 came flooding back. I got teary eyed from the nostalgia.

[QUOTE=Chaos Zero;44505732]No lie, as I listened to this during the direct, memories of my entire history with Smash bros, starting from Smash64 came flooding back. I got teary eyed from the nostalgia.[/QUOTE] I'm becoming a dumb old guy because lately old remixes have been getting to me, this one included. Nintendolands credits theme also springs to mind.

[QUOTE=Sift;44505744]I'm becoming a dumb old guy because lately old remixes have been getting to me, this one included. Nintendolands credits theme also springs to mind.[/QUOTE] no just dumb in general

[QUOTE=murple;44505796]no just dumb in general[/QUOTE] Please grow up. There's really no reason to be namecalling/insulting and it doesn't really prove a point for you. Edit: Nevermind you seem satisfied trying to start some kind of flame war.

[QUOTE=Sift;44505807]Please grow up.[/QUOTE] i will when you do. no not really you started it when you tryed to force your opinion on me

[QUOTE=Sift;44505730]Just saying it's really immature to go "no your a dumb idiot if you respond I'm right about everything now lets change the topic because *I* get the final word :smug:" People were talking about Isaac getting into smash as a full fledged character. I mentioned Golden Sun being bad and was told "No it's great" so posted that no, it really isn't and it's probably just those tinted goggles. It's called a conversation. There's been no name calling, no insults, just talking about a series that people want in and others like myself have aged absolutely terribly. Throwing a tantrum when someone says "no man the game actually isn't as good as you probably remember" and calling others elitest is just dumb. Edit: Seriously, arguing back and saying "IF YOU RESPOND I'M RIGHT ALL ALONG" just to get the last word in then trying to offhand change the topic is really wimpy come on dude. Edit 2: Man even looking back Flying man gave his opinion and you basically shot him down with "Who gives a fuck about what you think?" What is wrong with you dude.[/QUOTE] Ok, my post was stupid, I apologise for that. I didn't like the insistent "no, it's shit and you're wrong for liking it" tone of the whole thing. I'm already aware of Golden Sun's problems, is it wrong for me to still like it? I like very old-fashioned and traditional RPGs and I don't have a problem with the linearity of the game and the simple combat. I was tired of talking about it so I said "ok, now can we get back to talking about super smash bros" and said it in the shittiest way possible, but sometimes I just don't want to continue talking about something and get frustrated if it keeps getting dragged back to it. Sorry. In any case I think that regardless of quality Golden Sun was a pretty important part of the GBA library, and Isaac has a varied enough moveset to make for an interesting fighter, on top of being another swordsman character. We do need more non-sword wielders though. Super Smash Bros is a bit lacking in RPG representatives, after all. Somebody'll probably mention a really good example but outside of the Mario RPGs I can't really think of many RPGs that you would call iconic to Nintendo. I'm sure somebody'll name a good example though. [editline]10th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=murple;44505821]i will when you do[/QUOTE] You're just being ridiculously childish now. [editline]10th April 2014[/editline] And Golden Sun's music is top-notch so even if we don't get a rep I hope we get some more remixes for some stages.

now that that is hopefully over back on topic excellent start with Charizards new side B i wonder what his new down B is going to be fire spin could possibly work or perhaps a slow charged blast burn (i havent been this hyped for a veteran for quite some time)

[QUOTE=Reds;44505822]Ok, my post was stupid, I apologise for that. I didn't like the insistent "no, it's shit and you're wrong for liking it" tone of the whole thing. I'm already aware of Golden Sun's problems, is it wrong for me to still like it? I like very old-fashioned and traditional RPGs and I don't have a problem with the linearity of the game and the simple combat. I was tired of talking about it so I said "ok, now can we get back to talking about super smash bros" and said it in the shittiest way possible, but sometimes I just don't want to continue talking about something and get frustrated if it keeps getting dragged back to it. Sorry. In any case I think that regardless of quality Golden Sun was a pretty important part of the GBA library, and Isaac has a varied enough moveset to make for an interesting fighter, on top of being another swordsman character. We do need more non-sword wielders though. Super Smash Bros is a bit lacking in RPG representatives, after all. Somebody'll probably mention a really good example but outside of the Mario RPGs I can't really think of many RPGs that you would call iconic to Nintendo. I'm sure somebody'll name a good example though. [/QUOTE] Not really, my original post was just "Dark Dawn is bad, I went back and found all the problems in the original game and it made me sad." (I was being genuine about the "I've only seen you say nice things about it" thing as well, I really haven't seen anyone hail it as a good game) There's nothing wrong with liking it or having good memories about it, hell I still remember playing it regardless of quality- I was just thinking that Isaac probably wouldn't have that good a chance being playable seeing as Camelot abandoned the series (seemingly anyway) after Dark Dawn blew up for them (I think it went bargain bin really fast, no real source on that). I think he fits much better as a assist trophy. If he comes back though I do hope he has something better then Push, I recall it being kinda crummy in Brawl. Seriously dude is a wizard and they made his assist gently shove dudes. I don't even.

That might have been your original post, but following it up with "here is an LP telling you how wrong you are for thinking it's a good game" and then continuing on that idea is stupid if you're then going to claim neutrality. I'm not talking through nostalgia goggles, I played the games very recently and still like them. There are a lot more unrealistic predictions for characters anyway. Also I just found out that Brawl is called Great Melee Smash Brothers X in Japan. I wonder how that title would have gone down in the English-speaking world.

[QUOTE=Reds;44505875]That might have been your original post, but following it up with "here is an LP telling you how wrong you are for thinking it's a good game" and then continuing on that idea is stupid if you're then going to claim neutrality. I'm not talking through nostalgia goggles, I played the games very recently and still like them. There are a lot more unrealistic predictions for characters anyway. Also I just found out that Brawl is called Great Melee Smash Brothers X in Japan. I wonder how that title would have gone down in the English-speaking world.[/QUOTE] Japan has crazy names for everything, Jstars Victory VS makes no sense to me but eh. And yeah I kept going because it felt like there wasn't anything really refuting me just "No you are wrong" and that I had to provide some kind of evidence or something iunno. Was dumb of me as well both sides at fault. Also looked up a video to double check and Push seems a lot faster then I remember. I only got Isaac like... once while playing Brawl and I remember just kind of jumping over the hand and being a bit let down. Edit: Oh god Knuckle Joe's voice I forgot about it. My biggest hope for Smash 4 is that the damage percent for being KO'd goes back up, I haven't played melee since it came out (or around then) but I remember going up to 100+% and being nonstop panic because of it. When I got Brawl it felt off sending people to KO's at only like... 30%

I just want Stamina + Stock mode.

[QUOTE=Reds;44505942]I just want Stamina + Stock mode.[/QUOTE] Stamina with adjustable health %'s would be nice. I remember being freaked out first time I played it though because KO'd characters just lay sprawled out on the ground dead :v:

[QUOTE=Sift;44505961]Stamina with adjustable health %'s would be nice.[/QUOTE] You can already adjust that in brawl via the handicap option though.