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[t]https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzSI7B8Y26HEUA1[/t] [QUOTE]Pic of the day. I talked about an attack with a far reach in yesterday's post, but it didn't compare to Palutena's up smash attack! No joke, it reaches really far. It reached so far in this shot that even the rocketbarrels got blown up. [/QUOTE] [t]https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzSI7CV8knOPZhQ[/t] [QUOTE]That said, if we're talking just about range, even that can't beat Palutena's power, Heavenly Light. It has quite a damage field. However, this is a no-flinch attack, which means the opponents won't react to the damage! [/QUOTE]

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i can see palutena being a dormammu-esque character incredibly huge, long range attacks but slow and floaty controls

Calling it now, Palutena is MetaKnight 2.0. Sakurai's gotta keep his waifus and hazubandos top tier.

I am so going to enjoy playing as Palutena. I may have a new main

lol ironic i was looking for more palutana info yesterday and low and behold sakurai posts it the very next day

[QUOTE=PSI Guy;45324823][t]https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzSI7B8Y26HEUA1[/t][/QUOTE] That better be fully charged and not the result of every fucking upsmash you do

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;45325563]That better be fully charged and not the result of every fucking upsmash you do[/QUOTE] I hope so too. Cause that thing is a freaking wall. But seeing that the dodge mechanic has been buffed from Brawl and that this attack's hitbox is probably very thin, it's probably easy to dodge on the ground. In the air, maybe a special attack like Fox Illusion or a well timed air-dodge could get you out of that. Went back to her reveal trailer and this specific attack barely has knockback and just stops momentum from the opponent, setting it up for a follow-up. [URL="http://youtu.be/xqTW13AYniY?t=1m53s"]Here. Watch DK getting hit by it.[/URL] It's a great anti-air attack but the one in the image feels like a fully charged one compared to the video.

[QUOTE=alpha00zero;45325611]I hope so too. Cause that thing is a freaking wall. But seeing that the dodge mechanic has been buffed from Brawl and that this attack's hitbox is probably very thin, it's probably easy to dodge on the ground. In the air, maybe a special attack like Fox Illusion or a well timed air-dodge could get you out of that. Went back to her reveal trailer and this specific attack barely has knockback and just stops momentum from the opponent, setting it up for a follow-up. [URL="http://youtu.be/xqTW13AYniY?t=1m53s"]Here. Watch DK getting hit by it.[/URL] It's a great anti-air attack but the one in the image feels like a fully charged one compared to the video.[/QUOTE] Most likely it's a low knockback stunning attack and the actual high knockback and damage hitbox is centered over Palutena's staff.

It probably has a LOT of telegraphed windup, longer than Lucas' up-smash. You'll see it coming a mile away.

[QUOTE=Everything;45328152]It probably has a LOT of telegraphed windup, longer than Lucas' up-smash. You'll see it coming a mile away.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqTW13AYniY&feature=youtu.be&t=1m54s"]It does not.[/URL]

[QUOTE=XSFOX;45328416][URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqTW13AYniY&feature=youtu.be&t=1m54s"]It does not.[/URL][/QUOTE] Wait what? Is she faster than Sonic? Watching the whole thing again she zips right by him.

[QUOTE=XSFOX;45328416][URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqTW13AYniY&feature=youtu.be&t=1m54s"]It does not.[/URL][/QUOTE] How do you know the clip doesn't start at about the point the A button is released? That'd be 1/3 to 1/2 second of startup, and the animation looks like it supports this. She also looks like she's wide open to attack both during and for a notable period after the move is executed. Most of her moves seem to leave her very vulnerable. [editline]t[/editline] I think the tradeoff is ultimately the fact that while her attacks cover a lot of space, and she can fight well from a distance, if a primarily physical foe (Little Mac, Fox, Bowser) starts harassing you, you're in serious trouble. She will most likely be low weight tier, and outside of Warp, Jump Glide, Angelic Missile and Lightweight (which will make her even lighter), she doesn't appear to be very agile.

[QUOTE=FiveEyes;45328448]Wait what? Is she faster than Sonic? Watching the whole thing again she zips right by him.[/QUOTE] Everything that's being called out there is one of her specials (+ customizable alternatives) So with that said I'd assume it's a special that allows her to dash quicker than Sonic. [QUOTE=Everything;45328497]How do you know the clip doesn't start at about the point the A button is released? That'd be 1/3 to 1/2 second of startup, and the animation looks like it supports this. She also looks like she's wide open to attack both during and for a notable period after the move is executed. Most of her moves seem to leave her very vulnerable.[/QUOTE] You can see she's in her idle animation at the start and she pulls that move uncharged. [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12804628/Temp/Untitled-2.png[/t] It does seem to have quite some ending lag though yes.

[QUOTE=FiveEyes;45328448]Wait what? Is she faster than Sonic? Watching the whole thing again she zips right by him.[/QUOTE] GameXplain says it was a product of one of her B-specials. Her normal run is actually quite a sluggish and girly stride.

I'm confused. Is this her B up or A up? If it is her B up, I hope this still works as a third jump in the air.

[QUOTE=Fangz;45328667]I'm confused. Is this her B up or A up? If it is her B up, I hope this still works as a third jump in the air.[/QUOTE] Up + A. So her Up Smash.

[QUOTE=FiveEyes;45328448]Wait what? Is she faster than Sonic? Watching the whole thing again she zips right by him.[/QUOTE] It's the divine power Lightweight. In KI:U, it significantly increases your movement speed, but under its effects you take several times as much damage from attacks, as well as increased knockback. I'm willing to bet it works the same way in Smash. When used, you move much faster for a while, but you weigh a fraction as much, making it much easier to launch you if you're careless.

[QUOTE=Fangz;45328667]I'm confused. Is this her B up or A up? If it is her B up, I hope this still works as a third jump in the air.[/QUOTE] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqTW13AYniY&feature=youtu.be&t=1m54s]Up Smash (A)[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqTW13AYniY&feature=youtu.be&t=2m03s]Up Special (B)[/url]

[QUOTE=XSFOX;45328681]Up + A. So her Up Smash.[/QUOTE] Thanks for pointing that out, for a second there I thought they were going to do something weird with her B up.

[QUOTE=Abrown516;45330886][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqTW13AYniY&feature=youtu.be&t=2m03s]Up Special (B)[/url][/QUOTE] We don't know if that's the default one tho.

Either Sgt Nikolai is highly amused by all of this or is secretly pac-man.

[QUOTE=XSFOX;45331201]We don't know if that's the default one tho.[/QUOTE] She doesn't custom moves so it probably is, but then again they haven't said why. I'm guessing she can change her moveset mid-match or something.

[QUOTE=Kegan;45332907]Either Sgt Nikolai is highly amused by all of this or is secretly pac-man.[/QUOTE] I'm highly amused by the introduction of Pacman.

[QUOTE=Jays2Kings;45332995]She doesn't custom moves so it probably is, but then again they haven't said why. I'm guessing she can change her moveset mid-match or something.[/QUOTE] I think you misunderstood, they said that each character only has variations of their standard moves for the customization (see Mario's scalding fludd), while Palutena and the Mii chars have completely different moves that they can choose from.

it will soon be revealed that kirby, dedede and pit will have a variety of moves to choose from as well

[QUOTE=Hamsterjuice;45333147]it will soon be revealed that kirby, dedede and pit will have a variety of moves to choose from as well[/QUOTE] And Meta Knight.

[QUOTE=VincValentine;45333094]I think you misunderstood, they said that each character only has variations of their standard moves for the customization (see Mario's scalding fludd), while Palutena and the Mii chars have completely different moves that they can choose from.[/QUOTE] Yeah I did, I simply thought only the miis have different moves to choose, seeing that they're the only one banned from online with anyone modes.

[t]http://i.imgur.com/jZvmZFt.jpg[/t] Similar might've been posted before, but... Christ. I'm so glad Nintendo is better at handling mascot characters. I remembered the XTekken designs being bad, but I forgot they were THAT bad.

[QUOTE=Everything;45334912][t]http://i.imgur.com/jZvmZFt.jpg[/t] Similar might've been posted before, but... Christ. I'm so glad Nintendo is better at handling mascot characters. I remembered the XTekken designs being bad, but I forgot they were THAT bad.[/QUOTE] The Tekken Mega Man is a joke about how MM looks in the artwork for the first game, so the design is expected to be bad.