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why aren't they reviving her
[QUOTE=Qaus;49062212]There was no old combination, not even before first rework. A DoT frame is finally able to do DoT, isn't that better than not being able to do DoT with a DoT frame?[/QUOTE]
The problem is the damage, by the time enemies are ticking down, your team mates are already killing every other enemy in the room.
The risk involved in executing the combo doesn't balance the reward(damage). Especially when they nerfed her hp for no reason.
This game is not balanced for DOT but rather burst damage.
EDIT:
Before you say I'm complaining about her ability rework, I'm not, just the damage and risk involved.
Ever since I played her I wanted her other abilities to be useful because I hate having useless skills on my warframe.
[QUOTE=Qaus;49062307]why aren't they reviving her[/QUOTE]
They rushed too far ahead and couldn't make it back to her in time
So I did all the things and made it all PBR-y etc, I'm going to tweak around with the tint maps some more see if I can reign in a few of the edges and highlight some stuff. But I think it's turned out pretty good.
Gotta go take a break for diner now.
Opinions pls.
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[QUOTE=Excalibuurr;49062318]The combination offers nothing interesting. You combine your abilities to do more damage, that's it. There's no reason to not use the combination if you're dealing damage, which is the only reason why you would use the combination. So now instead of casting one ability to do large area of damage, you cast them all to achieve the same result, maybe even less due to extra energy cost and the casting times. Since she's now a DoT frame, she should be doing more damage as opposed to her old burst damage, otherwise there would be no benefit to using DoT over burst damage. Individually, her ability tweaks are for the better. The only thing falling short is her ultimate.[/QUOTE]
i'm really sorry but i need to pick this apart.
[quote]The combination offers nothing interesting.[/quote]
No less interesting than pressing 1 button to clear a room. Of course this isn't speaking objectively so why bother even mentioning it.
[quote]You combine your abilities to do more damage, that's it.There's no reason to not use the combination if you're dealing damage, which is the only reason why you would use the combination.[/quote]
Not 100% necessary, you can do any of her 4 abilities and still significantly contribute to corpus/grineer/infested genocide. Use spores and shoot them, bam numbers everywhere. Use molt, bam escape decoy. Use toxic lash, bam free toxin procs and bonus damage. Use miasma, bam high damage corrosive AOE.
[quote]So now instead of casting one ability to do large area of damage, you cast them all [B]to achieve the same result[/B], maybe even less due to extra energy cost and the casting times.[/quote]
Lol are you serious? You definitely can't nuke with Saryn anymore, but with the right combination and proper enemy spacing/spawns/whatever you'll never stop seeing damage numbers. Add Nyx's Chaos or loads of radiation procs and enemies will basically kill themselves while you get popcorn (hyperbole).
To hell with casting times and energy cost, with the very same ideal combo you can hit each key once and Energy Siphon your way back up with little interaction afterwards. Just stand there you don't even have to suffer the casting time of holding W.
[quote]Since she's now a DoT frame[/quote]
Objectively a good thing.
[quote]she should be doing more damage as opposed to her old burst damage, otherwise there would be no benefit to using DoT over burst damage.[/quote]
No she shouldn't, and yes there is a benefit. The benefit of DoT in Warframe is twofold. "Odds and ends" and "While you were busy". How many 1's have lasting damage abilities while you're down? Fireball? Tesla? These suck at DoT, Spores doesn't. Damage over time isn't intended to do tons of immediate damage or it wouldn't be damage over time.
[quote]Individually, her ability tweaks are for the better.[/quote]
100% agreed.
[quote]The only thing falling short is her ultimate.[/quote]
I'm guessing this is because it's working as intended.
[QUOTE=Domokun;49058857]If anyone is curious about how she performs against lvl 70 enemies, you can skip ahead to the actual testing.
[video=youtube;705S8mbiA3A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=705S8mbiA3A[/video][/QUOTE]
he has a point though, Saryn had very good cc just with Miasma. Now you have to combine all of her abilities which isn't a tough thing to do but you get less result now after the rework.
imo she's got more of a place in lower level planets/t1-t2 void. I went into a T2 survival mission solo with her, same build as him and she devastated everything, went into t4 surv solo and got destroyed myself.
sure you can make her tanky but other frames like Valkyr etc can do a better job. :(
[QUOTE=FrEeKy ThInG;49062567]he has a point though, Saryn had very good cc just with Miasma. Now you have to combine all of her abilities which isn't a tough thing to do but you get less result now after the rework.
imo she's got more of a place in lower level planets/t1-t2 void. I went into a T2 survival mission solo with her, same build as him and she devastated everything, went into t4 surv solo and got destroyed myself.
sure you can make her tanky but other frames like Valkyr etc can do a better job. :([/QUOTE]
You're still contributing in T4 survival as long as you keep the procs up. Just greases the murder gears.
[QUOTE=FrEeKy ThInG;49062567]he has a point though, Saryn had very good cc just with Miasma. Now you have to combine all of her abilities which isn't a tough thing to do but you get less result now after the rework.
imo she's got more of a place in lower level planets/t1-t2 void. I went into a T2 survival mission solo with her, same build as him and she devastated everything, went into t4 surv solo and got destroyed myself.
sure you can make her tanky but other frames like Valkyr etc can do a better job. :([/QUOTE]
Don't bother with miasma anymore just build for spores. They can do a lot of damage without wasting energy on your 4 skill.
At least until they balance out the heavy energy consumption needed for the full combo.
[QUOTE=Qaus;49062605]You're still contributing in T4 survival as long as you keep the procs up. Just greases the murder gears.[/QUOTE]
v true
[QUOTE=Domokun;49062630]Don't bother with miasma anymore just build for spores. They can do a lot of damage without wasting energy on your 4 skill.[/QUOTE]
PM me a good build for spores? :o
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PM me a good build for spores? :o[/QUOTE]
Energy Siphon
Flow
Continuity
Stretch
Rage
Vigor
Streamline
Fleeting Expertise
Overextended
All maxed, don't have prime flow or continuity. Needs a toxic weapon for good damage.
Stole this off the first build I googled.
EDIT:
Christ I can't open chat or forums without some smug idiot going "lol you can't spam 4 anymore, git gud", now I know how my Mesa friend felt during her nerf.
It's Done! God that was a pain.
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OROKIN REACTOR ALERT EUROPA
[QUOTE=Burre.png;49069607]I wanna see a gun that's shoulder mounted and shoots out Jat Kittag heads that home in on enemies to send them flying across the map.[/QUOTE]
Predator frame?
It would actually be funny to see that.
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:why:
does the rest of this thing even exist???
it exists as much as there are people who main the Mire
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does the rest of this thing even exist???[/QUOTE]
Arch-farming is a chore: its fucking tedious but when you get what you want, it feels good.
[editline]8th November 2015[/editline]
Also, make sure you are doing the right missions because they moved shit around last Archwing Updates.
Archwing is a joke and I refuse to cater to its whims.
It's a kinda cool idea, but disorientating as hell, most of the time you can barely tell what you're supposed to be doing, and the UI is shit at showing where enemies are.
I [I]really[/I] like the idea of the Archwing i just think its implementation blows really bad.
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update: time to not play archwing corpus exterminate or grineer md ever again
i'm 276 days late but
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happy birthday bob marley!!
I really wish you could port your PS4 account to PC
so much good stuff on my PS4 account I can't even play anymore
*tear
Today I've met Destiny player and we had a serious conversation about Destiny and Warframe
His arguments were stronger about Destiny
But Warframe isn't THAT bad either :v:
Destiny and Warframe are very comparable games in that they have gameplay elements and mechanics that keep you invested in the game, but people that are put off by these mechanics will say that the games are "boring, empty, and repetitive"
[editline]10th November 2015[/editline]
What is this flavor of RPG that Destiny and Warframe are?
Well, there's also the difference that Warframe is F2P and Destiny is overpriced as fuck
For me, I went with Warframe because I've just become jaded on the whole loot thing. I don't want to grind for hundreds of hours to try and get a RNG gun with all the right attributes on it, I just want to be able to choose the gun I want to use, and go
[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;49090965]Well, there's also the difference that Warframe is F2P and Destiny is overpriced as fuck[/QUOTE]
$60 and you get the whole package.
[QUOTE=Qaus;49091150]$60 and you get the whole package.[/QUOTE]
Or $40 if you spent $60 at launch
most people didn't buy it at launch cause it was genuinely a mess at the time
so for anyone that decided against it then, now's the time to get what i would consider the [I]ideal[/I] version of destiny.
just pretend it launched a couple weeks ago and it'll seem that way.
Remember it is grind game that you have to pay to play and has even micro transactions.
Insane.
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