[QUOTE=HGrunt;42131222]There's no subway in Lowlife, only underground road tunnels and parking lots. The track we see at the beginning tears across one of the road tunnels, it can't be preexisting.[/QUOTE]Didn't that have something to do with the train crashing?
[QUOTE=DONOTWANT;42132450]Didn't that have something to do with the train crashing?[/QUOTE]
No, he means that the train track itself was built straight through the road tunnel, making it impossible for cars to use.
Edit: You can see it pretty clearly here:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qaLd40z.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=DONOTWANT;42130618]Considering the Episode One chapter Lowlife consisted of very old looking subway stations with almost no combine tech & must have been pre-existing, I'd say they didn't go through that trouble at all.[/QUOTE]
I don't recall subway stations in EP1. There is one that looks like a subway station entrance, but it doesn't go to any train platforms, not even blocked off ones. Other than that, it was mostly vehicle tunnels (that the train tunnel cut right through, as Combine construction frequently does with older human constructions), and parking garages, maintenance areas, and other misc buildings.
[QUOTE=DONOTWANT;42130618]Nova Prospekt was a pre-existing prison that they took over & more than likely already had a train track connected to it. The Citadel probably wasn't much different.
They adapted Human Technology for convenience. Gunships may better than Helicopters, but Gunships can't drop mines or deploy soldiers, so they made the Choppers. The difference is that Helicopters & other flying things don't rely on any tracks. If the subway system wasn't already there, creating one would have been a total waste of energy compared to simply using the pre-existing cars & roads.[/QUOTE]
There's no evidence of a train track at Nova Prospekt* other than the Combine built one in the Depot. Bokito already spoke on the Citadel trains. As for a subway system, I mentioned that above already, additionally subway systems probably would not support the height of a Razor Train, those tunnels generally aren't very tall. And a "total waste of energy" doesn't mean much when you have [I]at least[/I] several hundred thousand potential workers / slaves in the immediate area.
* The only evidence of a train at all is the train bridge on the coast, which I personally don't count because until right before release, it was a highway bridge. Changing it into a train bridge and removing the highway was an inconsistency in itself because the highway just.. ends.
[QUOTE=DONOTWANT;42130618]My point was that it doesn't look like something humans would realistically make & it clearly isn't meant to be combine-made. Bringing back the giant train track bridge would just be bringing back leak material just for the sake of it, which is dumb.[/QUOTE]
It's bringing it back because it would make sense because the Nova Prospekt is at A, the Citadel is at B, and there is a large bay separating the A and B. I assume the trains don't just go over the Highway 17 bridge and then down a corkscrew tunnel into a conveniently place subway tunnel that goes to the Citadel. The alternative solution runs right through Ravenholm.
[editline]9th September 2013[/editline]
Seems I was late, that's what I get for leaving my browser open while I sleep, and not refreshing the page when I come back.
[QUOTE=Nukedrabbit95;42134198]Edit: You can see it pretty clearly here:
[URL]http://i.imgur.com/qaLd40z.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]Ah, my mistake. I must have remembered it wrong. Sorry. (I still think the combine setting up their own train station system is really retarded.)
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42134990]* The only evidence of a train at all is the train bridge on the coast, which I personally don't count because until right before release, it was a highway bridge.[/QUOTE]Why does it matter what it was before release?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42134990]Changing it into a train bridge and removing the highway was an inconsistency in itself because the highway just.. ends.[/QUOTE]If I remember [i]this[/i] right the highway disappears & reappears multiple times & an entire map of it was cut out from release.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42134990]It's bringing it back because it would make sense because the Nova Prospekt is at A, the Citadel is at B, and there is a large bay separating the A and B. I assume the trains don't just go over the Highway 17 bridge and then down a corkscrew tunnel into a conveniently place subway tunnel that goes to the Citadel. The alternative solution runs right through Ravenholm.[/QUOTE]There [b]are[/b] train tracks cutting through ravenholm. I don't have any idea if they go the right way or not, but there are train tracks.
[QUOTE=DONOTWANT;42135550]Why does it matter what it was before release?
If I remember [i]this[/i] right the highway disappears & reappears multiple times & an entire map of it was cut out from release.[/QUOTE]
It does a couple times, but there's usually a reason for it:
Collapsed Bridge > Reappears from NLO*
Collapsed Bridge > Found at Dock 137
Vanish (Train Bridge) > Collapsed Segment (opposite end)*
*On the in-game map, the NLO Road should keep going rather than just appears from nowhere. Also on the map, the road crosses the bridge. These are developer oversights and I don't see any reason we shouldn't make an attempt to fix them. Specifically for the Train Bridge, which I don't see why we can't just have the road lead up and onto the bridge with the train tracks built over the road.
I'm not sure what cut map you're talking about, unless you mean Lost Coast? That map was cut because they couldn't get it to fit in anywhere, and was remade as a tech demo.
[QUOTE=DONOTWANT;42135550]There [b]are[/b] train tracks cutting through ravenholm. I don't have any idea if they go the right way or not, but there are train tracks.[/QUOTE]
There are tracks in Ravenholm, but only a single set that are boarded off at each end and partially buried by rocks, they're also on fire (for some reason?). It's obviously an abandoned coal train line, not the Nova Prospekt line.
Well, at least I was right in remembering there were train tracks.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42136948]I'm not sure what cut map you're talking about, unless you mean Lost Coast?[/QUOTE]d2_coast_06. It's in the leak, but it's literally just a giant road with no other environment geometry. I'm just saying that they gave up on trying to make these things consistent earlier than you might have thought.
watchu peeps think about using these tracks in the city 17 chapter
for me in particularly the trainstation as it fits in like a glove
[url]https://soundcloud.com/john-glames/most-wanted[/url]
[url]https://soundcloud.com/john-glames/most-wanted-2[/url]
Personally the music shouldn't be changed, there's no real way to enhance it aside from timing (Or if you could make it continue through load screens, that'd be incredible for the airboat chase)
[QUOTE=kaze4159;42140399]Personally the music shouldn't be changed, there's no real way to enhance it aside from timing (Or if you could make it continue through load screens, that'd be incredible for the airboat chase)[/QUOTE]
I think we could add some ambient tracks that would help the mood a lot.
Plus, using other people's music brings up a whole ton of licensing problems, and it'll probably feel really out of place from the vanilla tracks
That's why we're having new music specially created to go along side the original sound track (not replacing any of the original songs, just adding new ones in certain areas). Casadis is the one working on those, and people seemed to really like the first song he made for that.
The same Casadis on soundcloud?
[QUOTE=DONOTWANT;42141222]The same Casadis on soundcloud?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=sargent99;42141724]RPG 60%[/QUOTE]
Looking very nice so-far! Though I think those circle cutout parts are a bit too tall, maybe make them a bit shorter?
[QUOTE=sargent99;42141724]RPG 60%[/QUOTE]
I think the whole thing looks a bit chubby.
[B]Page 100 people![/B]
[I]and still not much shit's done...[/I]
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;42142481][B]Page 100 people![/B]
[I]and still not much shit's done...[/I][/QUOTE]
what happened to secret surprise 2 week thing
[QUOTE=testinglol;42142501]what happened to secret surprise 2 week thing[/QUOTE]
Only 3 team members really had the time for it- we needed at least 4-6 of the team members to do it. The others I asked I never heard back from.
Hey look who restarted the 357 from scratch, it's still not quite done, but I'm much happier with this than my old one.
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5210835/GabeN/screenshot3.png[/t]
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5210835/GabeN/screenshot4.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;42142577]Only 3 team members really had the time for it- we needed at least 4-6 of the team members to do it. The others I asked I never heard back from.[/QUOTE]
damn that had a good potential and wouldve advertised the mod so well
[QUOTE=a wet towel;42143093]Hey look who restarted the 357 from scratch, it's still not quite done, but I'm much happier with this than my old one.
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5210835/GabeN/screenshot3.png[/t]
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5210835/GabeN/screenshot4.png[/t][/QUOTE]
that looks real nice, though the grip seems a little blocky to me
[QUOTE=a wet towel;42143093]Hey look who restarted the 357 from scratch, it's still not quite done, but I'm much happier with this than my old one.
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5210835/GabeN/screenshot3.png[/t][/QUOTE]
The carved name is really huge, it looks out of place. The grip's material is kinda odd.
I think you should decrease the size of the text and have it written with upcase letters only "PYTHON 357". Also a sans serif font would probably fit better (fonts without pointy bits).
[QUOTE=a wet towel;42143093]Hey look who restarted the 357 from scratch, it's still not quite done, but I'm much happier with this than my old one.[/QUOTE]
I want to hug you...
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;42142577]Only 3 team members really had the time for it- we needed at least 4-6 of the team members to do it. The others I asked I never heard back from.[/QUOTE]
I don't even remember what that was. :(
[QUOTE=Snood_1990;42141880]I think the whole thing looks a bit chubby.[/QUOTE]
ok...,can you show me what is"bit chubby"?
[QUOTE=sargent99;42143802]ok...,can you show me what is"bit chubby"?[/QUOTE]
I think it's your bevels. They're quite thick.
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;42142577]Only 3 team members really had the time for it- we needed at least 4-6 of the team members to do it. The others I asked I never heard back from.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and I was never successful getting the skybox for the citadel exported.
Most of us do this in our off time, and even then motivation (for myself at-least) can be hard to find.
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;42142577]Only 3 team members really had the time for it- we needed at least 4-6 of the team members to do it. The others I asked I never heard back from.[/QUOTE]
I never got an invite :(
I really need to finish that vehicle... how long has it been since I posted any content of it?
[QUOTE=a wet towel;42143093]Hey look who restarted the 357 from scratch, it's still not quite done, but I'm much happier with this than my old one.
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5210835/GabeN/screenshot3.png[/t]
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5210835/GabeN/screenshot4.png[/t][/QUOTE]
Is this the viewmodel or worldmodel?
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