Metal Gear Solid - A Hideo Kojima Thread - Flimsy Huey and the Phooey Fallacy - Games

[I]muffled wo-ha in the distance[/I]

[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;48751952]This isn't an MGSV problem but rather PlayStation but I fucking hate that I need to pay for FOB gameplay when it's so not optional It's clearly a main part of the game and requires for resources and getting better staff I'm at mission 26 and I only have like, every team at level 30 [sp]although the fucking quarantine is changing that[/sp] Which are the best missions for grinding a ranks[/QUOTE] Mission 30 is best for grinding ranks

[thumb]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/686027878080691472/92C561DE2AD7865ACC176A9BEBC00D7460CD4A5B/[/thumb] i wish i could wear the parasite suit in invasions/defenses, so i can really fulfill my dream of being an alien that takes everything away into wormholes. also, what does it mean when invaders show up with apparently no personnel or rank? [thumb]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/686027878079291572/E5F96D1208CCA354AD0B39FFC94160010B21C626/[/thumb]

De-mining sideops can be fun, sometimes. [vid]http://img.diwako.net/snaps/mines.webm[/vid]

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[QUOTE=Marden;48751986]MGSV spoilers[sp]S rank and all tasks completed in final story mission. Don't worry, you don't go to OH so hopefully it's not a big spoiler. You also finally unlock some cool words like Big, The, Boss and others.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]well you do, kinda, in the second half of the mirror cutscene[/sp] [editline]24th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=TheJoey;48752209]i wish i could wear the parasite suit in invasions/defenses, so i can really fulfill my dream of being an alien that takes everything away into wormholes.[/QUOTE] i wish the empty/base parasite suit was unlocked for everything since the modules provide the abilities, not the outfit itself [editline]24th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=elowin;48752013]dont, it's not long before A rank soldiers are shit-tier S rank or bust also, the rank of soldiers in the field is determined by your heroism score[/QUOTE] speaking of, my 26 S++ guys that i stole from the hacker a few days ago in the last thread are out of the brig now level 77 combat unit aww yeah

[QUOTE=the_killer24;48752416] speaking of, my 26 S++ guys that i stole from the hacker a few days ago in the last thread are out of the brig now level 77 combat unit aww yeah[/QUOTE] along this line of thinking, my dream is to some day have an FOB filled entirely with E ranked boasters to make invaders think they're stealing my S rank soldiers. this would be nice, if most of my invaders didn't just steal like 3 guys and kill literally everyone else.

I wish the parasuit(heh) looked like the actual parasites suits though, aka half naked bullshit. Also now that some of the honeymoon time has passed, would you people say it's worth getting if you're the kind of person that ghosts fucking everything? Like to take a somewhat recent stealth-optional game Deus Ex: HR, I got no kills no alarms on the hardest difficulty on my first run with malik saved. I'm probably gonna spend like 20 minutes before entering a camp :v:

yeh the game is built around freedom of infiltration, there are loads of viable options for sneak (or going loud)

So how do boaster work? I feel like they keep the stats shown by the analysis.

[QUOTE=Crimor;48752491]Also now that some of the honeymoon time has passed, would you people say it's worth getting if you're the kind of person that ghosts fucking everything? Like to take a somewhat recent stealth-optional game Deus Ex: HR, I got no kills no alarms on the hardest difficulty on my first run with malik saved. I'm probably gonna spend like 20 minutes before entering a camp :v:[/QUOTE] mgsv gives you that option of going no kills, no alarms. the problem with the game is the vehicles they throw at you. in your first run of most missions involving tanks or armored vehicles, you'll be forced to take explosives of some kind, or find a soldier that is holding a rocket launcher. you also cannot non-lethally remove attack helicopters from the field. in this way, the game is impossible to complete by 100% ghosting it, like you could with deus ex HR (despite boss fights). ghosting a good mission, however, is very satisfying.

Are rival FOBer's supposed to be able to defend if you haven't gotten spotted yet?

[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;48752581]Are rival FOBer's supposed to be able to defend if you haven't gotten spotted yet?[/QUOTE] there are "soft alerts" and "hard alerts" when it comes to defending FOBs. once an invader appears through a wormhole, a soft alert happens. any potential defender will not receive an alert unless they go through a loading screen of some kind. so, from ACC to the field, field to ACC, mother base to ACC, returning to the field right after you've completed a mission, etc. if an invader sets off something that makes guards suspicious, you receive an alert immediately. that would be the "hard alert".

[QUOTE=TheJoey;48752595]there are "soft alerts" and "hard alerts" when it comes to defending FOBs. once an invader appears through a wormhole, a soft alert happens. any potential defender will not receive an alert unless they go through a loading screen of some kind. so, from ACC to the field, field to ACC, mother base to ACC, returning to the field right after you've completed a mission, etc. if an invader sets off something that makes guards suspicious, you receive an alert immediately. that would be the "hard alert".[/QUOTE] Ah I see why people think FOBs are shit now. Well, I might as well go full lethal and kill everyone from a rival who infiltrated my base. There's really nothing that is gonna stop me. And I'll just have reflex on to sweeten the deal.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;48752532]mgsv gives you that option of going no kills, no alarms. the problem with the game is the vehicles they throw at you. in your first run of most missions involving tanks or armored vehicles, you'll be forced to take explosives of some kind, or find a soldier that is holding a rocket launcher. you also cannot non-lethally remove attack helicopters from the field. in this way, the game is impossible to complete by 100% ghosting it, like you could with deus ex HR (despite boss fights). ghosting a good mission, however, is very satisfying.[/QUOTE] As I said in an Only War campaign once, stealthing with explosives is possible, if you got heard you didn't use enough.

[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;48752581]Are rival FOBer's supposed to be able to defend if you haven't gotten spotted yet?[/QUOTE] Reposting this: The owner of the FOB, while they are in-game will get a soft-alert whenever someone else enters their FOB. What that means is when the defender is playing the game normally and enters a new area that triggers a loading screen (Going to the ACC, engaging in a new mission, returning to mother base), they will be informed of an intruder in their base. The only time a defender will be notified immediately of an intruder in their base is when you - the attacker - triggers a full-scale alert phase. wow go home stealth ninjas

[QUOTE=Crimor;48752610]As I said in an Only War campaign once, stealthing with explosives is possible, if you got heard you didn't use enough.[/QUOTE] i don't consider actually using explosives at all to be "ghosting". ghosting is stopping the tank by putting a car or held up soldier in front of its path and fultoning it when it's busy.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;48752620]i don't consider actually using explosives at all to be "ghosting". ghosting is stopping the tank by putting a car or held up soldier in front of its path and fultoning it when it's busy.[/QUOTE] Blow up the entire planet, sound doesn't travel through the vacuum of space so no one else will hear it.

[QUOTE=Crimor;48752491]I wish the parasuit(heh) looked like the actual parasites suits though, aka half naked bullshit. Also now that some of the honeymoon time has passed, would you people say it's worth getting if you're the kind of person that ghosts fucking everything? Like to take a somewhat recent stealth-optional game Deus Ex: HR, I got no kills no alarms on the hardest difficulty on my first run with malik saved. I'm probably gonna spend like 20 minutes before entering a camp :v:[/QUOTE] Actually the game kind of punishes ghosting, unfortunately. You need to knock out guards all the time because kidnapping them is the primary way of getting more people in Diamond Dogs, which is essential. [QUOTE=TheJoey;48752620]i don't consider actually using explosives at all to be "ghosting". ghosting is stopping the tank by putting a car or held up soldier in front of its path and fultoning it when it's busy.[/QUOTE] ghosting is not touching anything except your mission goal, leaving no trace of your presence whatsoever

So, I've been trying to get creative and figure out ways to kill enemies without it actually being credited to you. So far I've figured out three ways, some simpler than others. Surprisingly, throwing enemies from lethal heights doesn't count as a kill. Dropping vehicles via supply drop on enemies also doesn't count, though, it does take a few moments for the critically injured survivors to die. And the most inconvenient and difficult method is drowning enemies by placing them unconscious in water deep enough, or having them lie face-down on the ground in water during a hold-up which doesn't require as deep water as the first. Anybody have anything to add or share?

[QUOTE=Notanything;48752891]So, I've been trying to get creative and figure out ways to kill enemies without it actually being credited to you. So far I've figured out three ways, some simpler than others. Surprisingly, throwing enemies from lethal heights doesn't count as a kill. Dropping vehicles via supply drop on enemies also doesn't count, though, it does take a few moments for the critically injured survivors to die. And the most inconvenient and difficult method is drowning enemies by placing them unconscious in water deep enough, or having them lie face-down on the ground in water during a hold-up which doesn't require as deep water as the first. Anybody have anything to add or share?[/QUOTE] blow up any vehicle or barrel that someone is next to, and they'll die but it won't count as a kill. though it does count as a "neutralization" regardless.

This one guy who had been constantly invading me decided to do it while I was playing, between him constantly stealing my shit and killing my staff. Decided its time to give him the hint. Modded to fuck double barrel stun shotgun and over the fence he goes. :toot:

Double barrel stun shotgun is great for defences, I always pick someone with Quick Reload and just go crazy.

[QUOTE=Burnyhands;48753159]Double barrel stun shotgun is great for defences, I always pick someone with Quick Reload and just go crazy.[/QUOTE] Where I'm going, I don't need to reload. [sp]100 round magazine is OP, I shouldn't use it but this guy was majorly pissing me off, using stealth camo and suppressed machine guns to kill everyone[/sp]

Outside of the mission bonus points, does killing people impact your game in any other way? Just started the game and want to make sure I don't mess something up cause I decided to kill instead of stun / tranquilize.

[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;48753282]Stun Double Barrel is [B]godlike[/B]. Speaking of which, I done my first proper defence of a FOB with it (which ended after a few minutes), and fultoning someone after knocking them out was just so satisfying [t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/425944999599744803/4150C810B8A3A7660F8363C47B2E68FA07F47DD5/[/t][/QUOTE] Where do I get the blueprint for that?

[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;48753414]Outside of the mission bonus points, does killing people impact your game in any other way? Just started the game and want to make sure I don't mess something up cause I decided to kill instead of stun / tranquilize.[/QUOTE] You get Demon points that will eventually cause your horn to grow and blood to be unwashable But other than the look, I don't think it negatively affects gameplay

[QUOTE=i-am-teh-sex;48753452]You get Demon points that will eventually cause your horn to grow and blood to be unwashable But other than the look, I don't think it negatively affects gameplay[/QUOTE] There was probably some sort of alternate or extended ending planned that got cut, I'm sure.

Doesn't being bloody make guards more likely to notice you?

Only just realised the irony of Sigint developing a face mask when [sp]after his death someone does the same thing with him :v:[/sp] And he said it was impossible to get the lips to move - well MGS1 era graphics didn't allow lip movement did they?