Metal Gear Solid - A Hideo Kojima Thread - Flimsy Huey and the Phooey Fallacy

[ThePanther]

Mission 46 Questions ahead:

[sp]ok, like holy shit. OK... so is the Big Boss we fight in Outer Heaven (on two occasions) the REAL Big Boss, or Ahab? Is the body of big boss that is preserved by zero and later revealed at the end of mgs4 real big boss, or Ahab? I'm pretty confused right now. If Venom Snake "Ahab" is not the guy we fight in MG1 and MG2, then what happened to Ahab? If the Big Boss we see in MG1 MG2 and MGS4 is Ahab, then wtf happened to Big Boss? Ocelot says he decides to concentrate on making the Outer Heaven Nation, but then what happens to Venom Snake?[/sp]

[Senscith]

[QUOTE=ThePanther;48870690]Mission 46 Questions ahead:

[sp]ok, like holy shit. OK... so is the Big Boss we fight in Outer Heaven (on two occasions) the REAL Big Boss, or Ahab? Is the body of big boss that is preserved by zero and later revealed at the end of mgs4 real big boss, or Ahab? I'm pretty confused right now. If Venom Snake "Ahab" is not the guy we fight in MG1 and MG2, then what happened to Ahab? If the Big Boss we see in MG1 MG2 and MGS4 is Ahab, then wtf happened to Big Boss? Ocelot says he decides to concentrate on making the Outer Heaven Nation, but then what happens to Venom Snake?[/sp][/QUOTE]

[SP]I think it's implied that Ahab/Venom is who you fight in MG1 and he dies at the end. You fight the real BB at the end of MG2 and he somehow survives that.[/sp]

[RaikohZX]

[QUOTE=mathias233124;48870664][video=youtube;Ru0NVysjfuE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru0NVysjfuE&ab_channel=KONAMI573ch[/video][/QUOTE]

first, they have the DLC costumes goddammit
Second, was there a lot of extra dialogue Venom has in Japanese that were cut in English or something? In english Keifer just grunts the same way for every sortie, but here it seems his VA has multiple lines.

[BFG9000]

I just had a vision of a Rule 34 for "This is Pequod, cumming in hot!"
I didn't even really see it and now I can't unsee it

[RaikohZX]

[QUOTE=ThePanther;48870690]Mission 46 Questions ahead:

[sp]ok, like holy shit. OK... so is the Big Boss we fight in Outer Heaven (on two occasions) the REAL Big Boss, or Ahab? Is the body of big boss that is preserved by zero and later revealed at the end of mgs4 real big boss, or Ahab? I'm pretty confused right now. If Venom Snake "Ahab" is not the guy we fight in MG1 and MG2, then what happened to Ahab? If the Big Boss we see in MG1 MG2 and MGS4 is Ahab, then wtf happened to Big Boss? Ocelot says he decides to concentrate on making the Outer Heaven Nation, but then what happens to Venom Snake?[/sp][/QUOTE]

Basically [sp]Ahab is the final boss of Metal Gear 1, to explain how Big Boss miraculously survived both a bunch of rockets to the face and his entire base self-destructing / being bombed ontop of him. After that, the real Big Boss was at Zanzibar Land, 'died' and was put into his metabolic nanomachine coma until 2014, given parts from Solidus' and Liquid's bodies alike, and the destruction of the Patriots allowed him to be revived to see Solid one last time. The most personality-less appearance of Big Boss was basically us, and we died plain and simple to fool the world once more.[/sp]

[AkujiTheSniper]

[QUOTE=BFG9000;48870738]I just had a vision of a Rule 34 for "This is Pequod, cumming in hot!"
I didn't even really see it and now I can't unsee it[/QUOTE]

Now imagine it's the heli saying that while it humps AN ENEMY GUNSHIP

[Maniac]

[QUOTE=BFG9000;48870652]As a scout, my biggest worry with the camping strategy is actually getting firebombed by infiltrators. This is because I basically have a perimeter of snares surrounding me at all times so I actually deliberately camp in order to lure infiltrators into my CQC. Firebombs explode on impact which is fucking OP because as far as I can tell, rolling doesn't actually help with putting it out. I have no idea how to deal with those little bastards because camping is part of my Scout M.O.[/QUOTE]

I hate videogame snipers in all forms so seeing them suffer brings joy to my heart. Nerf them more pls.

[Codemaster85]

[QUOTE=BFG9000;48870738]I just had a vision of a Rule 34 for "This is Pequod, cumming in hot!"
I didn't even really see it and now I can't unsee it[/QUOTE]

a friend of mine has drawn a three piece pic of her anime girl being boned at her LZ by pequod.

Makes hearing pequod talking period weird afterwards.

[RaikohZX]

[QUOTE=AkujiTheSniper;48870767]Now imagine it's the heli saying that while it humps AN ENEMY GUNSHIP[/QUOTE]

its gunfire can tear a man in half

[Ghost101]

Do the Quiet outfits actually do anything? Like the blood one says something about causing fear, while the silver/gold about awe.

[BFG9000]

[QUOTE=maniacykt;48870768]I hate videogame snipers in all forms so seeing them suffer brings joy to my heart. Nerf them more pls.[/QUOTE]

Why? I think your experience of "video game snipers" is based purely on hitscan bullet games like Counter Strike, TF2 and COD. I can already tell you that in this game snipers are already hella nerfed because the only reliable weapons you can have are semi auto. As far as I can tell there are no "one hit kill" rifles like the infamous AWP that you can use, all bolt actions take multiple hits or a headshot to kill. And with the physically simulated bullet system I can tell you that achieving such accuracy is hard as fucking hell.

[New Cidem]

[QUOTE=maniacykt;48870768]I hate videogame snipers in all forms so seeing them suffer brings joy to my heart. Nerf them more pls.[/QUOTE]

Have you tried crawling along the ground? That should enable you to sneak past enemies.

[ThePanther]

[QUOTE=Senscith;48870705][SP]I think it's implied that Ahab/Venom is who you fight in MG1 and he dies at the end. You fight the real BB at the end of MG2 and he somehow survives that.[/sp][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RikohZX;48870763]Basically [sp]Ahab is the final boss of Metal Gear 1, to explain how Big Boss miraculously survived both a bunch of rockets to the face and his entire base self-destructing / being bombed ontop of him. After that, the real Big Boss was at Zanzibar Land, 'died' and was put into his metabolic nanomachine coma until 2014, given parts from Solidus' and Liquid's bodies alike, and the destruction of the Patriots allowed him to be revived to see Solid one last time. The most personality-less appearance of Big Boss was basically us, and we died plain and simple to fool the world once more.[/sp][/QUOTE]

[sp]Oh wow! That totally works too! Cause I always thought it was weird that in MG1, Big Boss is supposed to be in a command center working with FOX HOUND, directing Solid Snake. So at the end when it's revealed that Big Boss is actually IN Outer Heaven, it didn't make sense to me that nobody realized that the transmissions were coming FROM INSIDE Outer Heaven. But now it makes sense, the Big Boss on the radio is the real Big Boss at FOX HOUND, but the Big Boss you fight is the phantom. It's actually pretty genius... wow. Then the Big Boss you burn in MG2 (also then one who actually has a personality, and tells solid snake all that crazy shit about endless war) is the real Big Boss. Kojima... you're a mad-man.[/sp]

[BFG9000]

[QUOTE=New Cidem;48870806]Have you tried crawling along the ground? That should enable you to sneak past enemies.[/QUOTE]

I fucking hate how Ocelot says this during [EXTREME] Code Talker and the fucking Femskulls still see me

[AssFantastic]

I may be late, but they patched in some UI improvements for PC

For example, you can now rotate avatars/customizable weapons in their respective menu, and you can also hold up/down/left/right in the iDroid development section to scroll faster. Zooming in with the Int-Scope using the scroll wheel is much faster too.
There might be more changes, the ones above are just what I noticed.

[Jakkalen]

[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;48867035]Scout's first ascension is a ghillie suit that makes them look like a green gorilla...
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hr-9b0u9t4[/media][/QUOTE]

Can anyone tell me how to obtain that sick body armor the guy wears before ascending?

[Pointman]

DLC costumes for PC yet?

[RaikohZX]

I think I found a new chopper theme.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGobJ153r78[/media]

or alternatively

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPhlHV7vfSw[/media]

[editline]10th October 2015[/editline]

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKQE1NBzqco]fuck it this soundtrack is a gold mine[/url]

[SupaBastad]

[QUOTE=RikohZX;48871118]I think I found a new chopper theme.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGobJ153r78[/media]

or alternatively

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPhlHV7vfSw[/media]

[editline]10th October 2015[/editline]

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKQE1NBzqco]fuck it this soundtrack is a gold mine[/url][/QUOTE]

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28BQ9LThKXA[/media]

[AssFantastic]

[video=youtube;xUApyt2xDMg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUApyt2xDMg[/video]
This is my chopper music
you have no idea how much ass this makes me wanna kick

[Akzon0r]

Haven't seen this posted around here:
[video=youtube;xXAFbSXTxTE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXAFbSXTxTE[/video]

[Source]

i fucking hate fulton killstealers you just penalised constantly for wanting to run none lethal, you don't even get a fucking assist for it either, and walker gears from the beginning just ruin the game, whats the fucking point when you don't unlock GLs or RPGs til higher levels.

[editline]10th October 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=Ray551;48871015]Can anyone tell me how to obtain that sick body armor the guy wears before ascending?[/QUOTE]

costs 1000GP and he changed the colour of it. you can just buy it.

[editline]10th October 2015[/editline]

Not to mention the idea of player hosted fucking games is awful, typical of Konami to take the cheap option where 90% of my games are just laggy as fuck. So disappointed in this multiplayer.

[WINDOWS098]

The nexus page for phantom pain is fucking straight up gone.
[url]http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/categories/?[/url]
Fucking rip?

[Komppu]

[QUOTE=windows098;48871687]The nexus page for phantom pain is fucking straight up gone.
[url]http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/categories/?[/url]
Fucking rip?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsolidvtpp/?[/url]

[editline]10th October 2015[/editline]

GZ and TPP used to be one now they both have their own.

[OzzyCockroach]

which gamemode is best for Experience?

[Conely]

[video=youtube;H14EyZ-o3Uw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H14EyZ-o3Uw[/video]

the timing on this is so perfect for chopper extraction

[Mickyan]

Oh man, I just dumped all my best recruits in the security team, S+ guards can survive an anti materiel bodyshot

I can't wait for someone to invade me

[Komppu]

[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;48871866]Oh man, I just dumped all my best recruits in the security team, S+ guards can survive an anti materiel bodyshot

I can't wait for someone to invade me[/QUOTE]

0:01 intruder appeared from wormhole, 0:05 intruder reacehd the core.

[Mickyan]

lol whatever, congratulations on getting your shit wiped and banned when you could just cheat in singleplayer to get stuff risk free. I have nothing else to do in the game so I really couldn't give a shit either way

Never had that happen either. I had a couple of encounters with god mode cheaters the first few weeks and then that's it. Most cheaters are probably in the low esp. rank brackets

[Waffuru]

I hope when MGO3 comes to PC, majority of games won't start up with most people or everyone on whichever teams suddenly popping optic camo in unison and begin to reenact the start of BF2 Strike at Karkand with those locator grenades.

Something about everyone using optic camo doesn't really sit right with me, I'm okay if like 1-2 people per team uses it but everyone? eeughh