Metal Gear Solid - A Hideo Kojima Thread - Flimsy Huey and the Phooey Fallacy - Games

pretty fun to improvise when you go OSP [t]http://i1.minus.com/ib0hfNY8Ut1dZb.jpg[/t] [t]http://i3.minus.com/iBgncHZh888Sx.jpg[/t]

Where's a good place to get unprocessed common metal besides OKB Zero? It's a pretty long run from the LZ to where cargo containers are kept there. [QUOTE=Marzipas;48761116]ending [sp]people saying skullface was a pointless villian who accomplished nothing annoys me, this kinda shows what i've been thinking most of the time http://i.imgur.com/sM7dxU5.png . [/sp][/QUOTE][sp]He got shafted pretty hard by chapter 2, since his dying spiel was that he would infect Big Boss and the whole global power scape with his destructive desire for revenge. But then, the last thing that Venom does is a pretty just act in exiling Huey, rather than anything that really made him a demon.[/sp]

[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;48761189]since we're talking about shit that sucked in peacewalker, remember [sp]zadornov escaping 15 times[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]boss all those fuckin kids just got away we accidentally shipped them across two continents sorry[/sp]

[sp]fuck huey[/sp]

I thought Quiet was an interesting character... [sp]until the torture sequence. This whole time i'd been holding out that there was something more to Quiet, that she still wasn't quite an ally. But as soon as she talks to Code Talker and reveals that she really does just have a big lady-boner for Venom, any potential tension with her character simply vanished.[/sp] That kinda leads into one of my biggest problems with the story: [sp]The answers to all the questions you have at the beginning of the game are always the most obvious and boring possible answer. Is Quiet ever going to betray you? Nah. Who is the Man on Fire and the Floating Boy? Oh it's just Volgin and Psycho Mantis. Why does Kaz seem so suspicious and constantly pinning everything on Huey? Oh Huey's just actually a shithead. I was really hoping for the game to play more with the hallucination aspect, or have some kind of betrayal or internal espionage. I suspected that Kaz or Ocelot may have actually been a Cipher spy, or they may have not even been there at all, and were just figment's of Venom's imagination (Fight Club style) I just wished the game had some kind of twist other than "Yo you're not really Big Boss"[/sp]

[img]http://vgy.me/PKg0dA.png[/img] [img]http://vgy.me/lKbFOU.png[/img] weeeiiirrrddd they also both show up as seperate intrusions. I've fought with the guy twice now and he isn't a hacker so I guess it's just an odd glitch.

I just tried to eliminate chopper with anti air placement, oh how foolish that was, it didn't even scratch it. [editline]25th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Jad Hinto;48761306][img]http://vgy.me/PKg0dA.png[/img] [img]http://vgy.me/lKbFOU.png[/img] weeeiiirrrddd they also both show up as seperate intrusions. I've fought with the guy twice now and he isn't a hacker so I guess it's just an odd glitch.[/QUOTE] Use G and see if same profiles.

[QUOTE=usaokay;48761305]Kind of wish that Big Boss personally interrogates Quiet. I'm guessing we would actually find out a bit more about her since Quiet is more inclined to trust her husbando. Like, Ocelot tied her up (as if they think that will hold her) and began torturing her. It then became apparent that she "fell in love with the legend." If so, she has trusts Big Boss than anyone else. Just leave her alone in the room with Big Boss, give her a pencil and paper; and thus begins the exposition.[/QUOTE] Kiefer was only paid for an hour of dialogue :payne:

[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;48761343]Kiefer was only paid for an hour of dialogue :payne:[/QUOTE] An hour? That means there's at least 59 minutes of cut dialogue from him.

[IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/429322699320153516/E8A53C6F0B732FF59457233C677E7CCC38F08108/[/IMG] Les Enfants Terribles, Zero called it

Was it ever explained why Quiet was killing Soviet officers to begin with? Especially since [sp]Cipher is building Sahelanthropus using the USSR's money and resources under the guise that it is being built for them[/sp], so why would they try to ruin their efforts in the region? I guess to prolong the conflict? Maybe? Maybe she just needs target practice?

Jesus, that Mudrock guy and I are actually an even match. It's a ton of fun going up against him and we're constantly invading one another right now :v: Wonder if he'll accept my friend request so I can tell him he's good.

"you're pretty good"

[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;48761445]Wonder if he'll accept my friend request so I can tell him he's [B]pretty [/B]good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=the_killer24;48761462]"you're pretty good"[/QUOTE]i wanted to avoid the obvious joke but yes that was the plan Squabbling over nukes has never been more fun.

[QUOTE=Rossy167;48761362]An hour? That means there's at least 59 minutes of cut dialogue from him.[/QUOTE] I know that Chief Kief doesn't speak all that much in this game compared to the protags of previous MGS titles, but the speeches at the end of missions 43 and 46 are fucking amazing, and are ultra worth it for me. In my mind Hayter will always be the classic Snake voice, but the little we got of Kiefer was pretty fucking great.

[QUOTE=kapin_krunch;48761501]I know that Chief Kief doesn't speak all that much in this game compared to the protags of previous MGS titles, but the speeches at the end of missions 43 and 46 are fucking amazing, and are pretty worth it for me. In my mind Hayter will always be the classic Snake voice, but the little we got of Kiefer was pretty fucking great.[/QUOTE][sp]You're all diamonds to me[/sp] fuckin got me hard man.

You know those barbed fences with doors? Try to drive through open door, say good bye to your ears in advance.

[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;48761382]Was it ever explained why Quiet was killing Soviet officers to begin with? Especially since [sp]Cipher is building Sahelanthropus using the USSR's money and resources under the guise that it is being built for them[/sp], so why would they try to ruin their efforts in the region? I guess to prolong the conflict? Maybe? Maybe she just needs target practice?[/QUOTE] I think Cipher/XOF just knows that Snake is in Afghanistan, so Quiet was sent there to deal with him as the Skulls in the Honey Bee mission didn't kill him.

But she is popping Soviet officers left and right according to Ocelot and any soldiers you eavesdrop on It just seems counter-productive for Cipher's interests

[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;48761382]Was it ever explained why Quiet was killing Soviet officers to begin with? Especially since [sp]Cipher is building Sahelanthropus using the USSR's money and resources under the guise that it is being built for them[/sp], so why would they try to ruin their efforts in the region? I guess to prolong the conflict? Maybe? Maybe she just needs target practice?[/QUOTE] I don't think they know who she is. The soldiers often talk about her being 'the naked woman' before you encounter her.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;48761072][/QUOTE] it's a pretty big leap from hating parts of the game to hating every part of the game

Any idea how much heroism you need till S+ appears?

[QUOTE=RichyZ;48761618]nah not really every post ive seen you make in here is "i hate this part" or "youre dumb this part sucks" [editline]25th September 2015[/editline] once you're at hero rank they should appear pretty commonly 150kish herosim[/QUOTE] I have 762860 and I only see highest S. Maybe I am just unlucky.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;48761618]nah not really every post ive seen you make in here is "i hate this part" or "youre dumb this part sucks" [editline]25th September 2015[/editline] once you're at hero rank they should appear pretty commonly 150kish herosim[/QUOTE] I am at nearly 200k and S ranks are still very rare

-automerge-

S+ and S++ don't appear in the wild, you'll only find them in missions or get them via FOB stuff

Oh wow, if you put a bunch of knocked out guards or bodies in one area, at some point some of them will start going invisible when you're not standing right on top of them. I get that it's for optimization, but it's still kinda weird.

It's really underwhelming that at the beginning, the doctor tells Snake that the shrapnel could make him see thing that aren't there, or miss things that are there but it's only ever used for the [sp]_____Paz[/sp] subplot or the horn growing. Arkham Knight did hallucinations well but that's because the plot was built around it. TPP could have had BB fighting someone who wasn't actually there

[QUOTE=Terin7;48761217]Where's a good place to get unprocessed common metal besides OKB Zero? It's a pretty long run from the LZ to where cargo containers are kept there. [sp]He got shafted pretty hard by chapter 2, since his dying spiel was that he would infect Big Boss and the whole global power scape with his destructive desire for revenge. But then, the last thing that Venom does is a pretty just act in exiling Huey, rather than anything that really made him a demon.[/sp][/QUOTE] Mission 18, the outpost near the left landing zone is perfect for farming (grab the containers, run away far enough for it to save) [sp]I'm sure chapter 2 would have had more scenes like that had the game been finished more. Honestly, exiling a man to let him live with his mistakes is pretty demonish, though I do agree there should have been more.[/sp]