Metal Gear Solid - A Hideo Kojima Thread - Flimsy Huey and the Phooey Fallacy - Games

[QUOTE=SonicHitman;48764748]i dont think that works anymore? i tested it just for fun, she usually jumps immediately before the box drops and goes to a different location. tried it again out of spite to see if it was a coincidence, and she jumped again. maybe i'm doing wrong[/QUOTE] Well, there's a way you can defeat her with a non-firearm attack, but it's not non-lethal. When she's under a roof in the ruins, you can shoot out the supports. Wear your nvgs and the areas you can shoot out are bright. It'll collapse on her head and do a good deal of damage, you should get the non-firearm attack objective if it's the last hit, if I remember correctly.

[QUOTE=JesterUK;48764320]If there are going to be any more Metal Gear games I want them to be kooky spin offs. I feel like we're done with the main series now and anything else is pushing it.[/QUOTE] I dunno, MGSV didn't feel very conclusive to me. It opened up a lot of questions.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;48762783][sp]In Snake Eater he had his elbow dislocated and his ribs cracked, then survived a nuclear explosion. One week later he was sent on a mission where he -at the very least- had his hand stepped on by a horse, got attacked by a cloud of hornets, shot with a poisoned crossbow bolt, beaten and electrocuted by Volgin, had his eye burned by a muzzle flare, nearly drowned getting washed down a river, and survived a motorcycle accident. Not even counting injuries he can take while the player is controlling him And at the end of it he looked a little bit tired. You think getting hit in the shoulder with a knife or knocked back in an explosion will kill him?[/sp][/QUOTE] That was then and this is now. MGSV tries to take a more serious approach. At least in the cutscenes, anyway. I mean, [sp]remember how Venom gets rekt by magical armor piercing snake venom[/sp]

[vid]http://webm.host/34341/vid.webm[/vid] when skullface is talking about his plan

[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;48764799]I dunno, MGSV didn't feel very conclusive to me. It opened up a lot of questions.[/QUOTE] that's because we didn't really need MGSV either Kojima just changed a bunch of already established things and created more questions without answering anything

[sp]The XOF uniform and Sniper Wolf outfit, as well as The Ends suit do undermine the whole reason why she doesn't wear clothes. Iunno. I just kinda phase out theese issues in my head. For the two uniforms, I discount both of them as easter eggs. For the End, I discount it as either that he actually is naked but you can't tell because he's that old and rotting, or he's like, really meshed with his suit. Like to the point where it's actually growing on him, and that is actual moss on it too. Life is short. I just want to enjoy Quiet without being called a terrible person for doing so, alright?[/sp]

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[QUOTE=elowin;48764826]That was then and this is now. MGSV tries to take a more serious approach. At least in the cutscenes, anyway. I mean, [sp]remember how Venom gets rekt by magical armor piercing snake venom[/sp][/QUOTE] I thought we all agreed that was bad story telling that didn't fit in and simply existed so the plot could unfold and some shoehorned symbolism could occur?

Important to remember The End had functional lungs

I love the scene in MGS3 where the Boss is like "it'll be The End for the boy" and then I assume someone just shoves The End's wheelchair out the door so he can slowly wheel into the scene

Hot tip for FOB invasion. You have the cluster rocket launcher upgraded to full? Good! Carry it as your second primary weapon. When on the copter, pull it out and lock onto as many targets as you can. It will lock onto them even if you can't see them. You can potentially clear a platform while only reaising the alert level, or if theres only one platform you might be able to take out absolutly everyone. This might work with the normal Killer Bee launcher too, although it didn't occour to me to try using it for that purpose when I got it. (Later I got some hacker guy going by the name Snake coming into my FOB with a fully automatic shotgun with unlimited ammo outright killing everyone in my base. I dont know how to report people or if you even can, so I'm just leaving that here.)

[QUOTE=JesterUK;48764897]I love the scene in MGS3 where the Boss is like "it'll be The End for the boy" and then I assume someone just shoves The End's wheelchair out the door so he can slowly wheel into the scene[/QUOTE] [img]http://puu.sh/koHUc/c78a336bb2.jpg[/img] Let's destroy Salahentropus will never be a thing and I'm sad about it

holy shit why does the discharger for d-walker exist at all? it's probably the most useless thing ever shit range, shit charging time, you're better off just ramming enemy soldiers because at this point they noticed you anyway

[QUOTE=JesterUK;48764830]that's because we didn't really need MGSV either Kojima just changed a bunch of already established things and created more questions without answering anything[/QUOTE] Does anyone else find it weird how (ending) [sp]MGSV retroactively claims "The Patriots" only ever meant the AIs and not the people, even though MGS3, Poops and 4 explicitly state otherwise?[/sp] Why even change that?

[QUOTE=damnatus;48765102]holy shit why does the discharger for d-walker exist at all? it's probably the most useless thing ever shit range, shit charging time, you're better off just ramming enemy soldiers because at this point they noticed you anyway[/QUOTE] level 2 is [I]significantly[/I] better and it exists for groups, since the stunbolt chains

[MGS3/4 theory/possibly spoils] [sp]Old Snake knew CQC in 4 by doing Virtuous Mission/Operation Snake Eater as a VR mission in 3. [/sp]

[QUOTE=Riley;48765150][MGS3/4 theory/possibly spoils] [sp]Old Snake knew CQC in 4 by doing Virtuous Mission/Operation Snake Eater as a VR mission in 3. [/sp][/QUOTE] I thought he always knew how to do it But refused because he didn't like BB

[QUOTE=Riley;48765150][MGS3/4 theory/possibly spoils] [sp]Old Snake knew CQC in 4 by doing Virtuous Mission/Operation Snake Eater as a VR mission in 3. [/sp][/QUOTE] The actual explanation is that Big Boss was Snake's mentor and taught him CQC. Snake just preferred his two punch kick thing for some reason 'til mgs4.

[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;48765165]The actual explanation is that Big Boss was Snake's mentor and taught him CQC. Snake just preferred his two punch kick thing for some reason 'til mgs4.[/QUOTE] Miller taught him CQC,not BB.

[QUOTE=Razormind;48765177]Miller taught him CQC,not BB.[/QUOTE] There's a codec call in mgs4 where Snake states it was Big Boss who taught him.

Yeah when asked about it by otacon or someone he says when he sees all these PMC's doing this fake rip off CQC he cant help but react to it and do actual proper CQC in return

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[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;48765188]There's a codec call in mgs4 where Snake states it was Big Boss who taught him.[/QUOTE] Yeah you're right, I'm thinking about CQB

I like how the whole series hypes up CQC to be this amazing style of fighting, yet ingame it's just punching/kicking and grabbing dudes.

[QUOTE=Bokito;48765236]I like how the whole series hypes up CQC to be this amazing style of fighting, yet ingame it's just punching/kicking and grabbing dudes.[/QUOTE] I wish it was more fluid instead of all scripted animation sequences with annoying slow motion. MGS1 has some weird controls, but I like how quick and simple it is to run up and kick a guy's ass.

Someone please explain to me how grenade throwing works in the PC version. Everytime i want to sneakily roll a grenade through a door and Snake overhands it straight into the doorframe and bounces it back in my face.

[QUOTE=Rascovinne;48764880]Enjoy your Houston[/QUOTE] I need a mod now where snake doing holdups is replaced with "EY, DONT ACT DUMB"

the problem with cqc is that you can never do all the cool shit you see in the cutscenes with it

[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;48765123]Does anyone else find it weird how (ending) [sp]MGSV retroactively claims "The Patriots" only ever meant the AIs and not the people, even though MGS3, Poops and 4 explicitly state otherwise?[/sp] Why even change that?[/QUOTE] If we're talking about retcons here MGS4 has [sp]big boss say it's impossible to turn someone into a different person So you know big boss is just full of shit [/sp]

[QUOTE=Latex;48765332]Someone please explain to me how grenade throwing works in the PC version. Everytime i want to sneakily roll a grenade through a door Snake overhands it straight into the doorframe and bounces it back in my face.[/QUOTE] Holding the button lets you throw overhand. Simply tapping it throws it underhand.