also don't underestimate the DMR, even if it feels like a pea shooter the damn bullets have the sound and suppression of a sniper rifle and it shuts you down hard when someone uses one rapidfire at you
[QUOTE=Reagy;42861145]I don't give a fuck about stats, I can't use my play style with these starters.[/QUOTE]
Stats have never really represented a weapons capabilities that well. The AUG and QBZ have near enough the same stats but the moment you put a silencer on the QBZ it goes to complete shit when it comes to stability yet the AUG copes well enough to hold most of its range
[QUOTE=daijitsu;42861223]also don't underestimate the DMR, even if it feels like a pea shooter the damn bullets have the sound and suppression of a sniper rifle and it shuts you down hard when someone uses one rapidfire at you[/QUOTE]
It should really have accuracy penalties for the 2nd shots.
After this patch I now cant use battlelog. Everytime now it seems to insist on thinking i dont have the plugin for the browser. I install it again and it still says i havent got it. I just want to play singleplayer goddammit i shouldn't have to deal with this bullshit.
[QUOTE=Midas22;42861272]Stats have never really represented a weapons capabilities that well. The AUG and QBZ have near enough the same stats but the moment you put a silencer on the QBZ it goes to complete shit when it comes to stability yet the AUG copes well enough to hold most of its range[/QUOTE]
The suppressor doesn't affect recoil or spread increase.
[QUOTE=Midas22;42861272]Stats have never really represented a weapons capabilities that well. The AUG and QBZ have near enough the same stats but the moment you put a silencer on the QBZ it goes to complete shit when it comes to stability yet the AUG copes well enough to hold most of its range
It should really have accuracy penalties for the 2nd shots.[/QUOTE]
for the starter DMR it's a 0.6 spread increase per shot, when continuously shooting, which is pretty harsh. Spam enough shots though and you're bound to land the three you need
[QUOTE=Altimor;42861354]The suppressor doesn't affect recoil or spread increase.[/QUOTE]
I have a feeling it affects bullet drop though.
Has Chinese Assault been released yet or why are they apparently releasing Second Assault before it?
[QUOTE=Rankzerox;42861374]Has Chinese Assault been released yet or why are they apparently releasing Second Assault before it?[/QUOTE]
Chinese rising isn't out till december. Not sure why second assault is appearing.
[QUOTE=Midas22;42861367]I have a feeling it affects bullet drop though.[/QUOTE]
Only velocity. I'm guessing the QBZ's bullets are slower with the suppressor. That's still very much representable by stats. Symthic just doesn't have weapon-specific attachment values yet.
[QUOTE=Midas22;42861367]I have a feeling it affects bullet drop though.[/QUOTE]
(for both with suppressor)
[img]http://i.imgur.com/vEESbit.png[/img]
(unsuppressed vs suppressed)
[img]http://i.imgur.com/BVfT8WR.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/EwQKTti.png[/img]
for anyone looking to toy around:
[url]http://symthic.com/bf4-stats[/url]
Wow the magnum with scope is amazing, if the delay before firing wasn't there it would seriously be OP.
i'm still being kicked out of games with a client closed down connection all the fucking time
[editline]14th November 2013[/editline]
dice get yo shit together
Server chats, so slow.
[editline]14th November 2013[/editline]
And server crashed, lost all progress and my new unlocks. Fuck this going back to GTAV not touching this unstable shite for another month.
I get the MTAR and that gun absolutely wipes people off the floor, jesus christ. For once I'm screaming to hold flags to win this shit, both teams neck and neck and is covered in unlocks. Server crashes.
Someone please kill me
[editline]14th November 2013[/editline]
I dunno about yah but floodzone makes me lag hard.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;42861039]I leveled recon with a combination of P226 and Shorty 12G, primaries are for suckers.[/QUOTE]
Levelled mine with Carbine till DMR. Used that to max out the class.
Just tried SCAR on the assault for the first time, on hardcore it's insanely good.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;42861039]I leveled recon with a combination of P226 and Shorty 12G, primaries are for suckers.[/QUOTE]
I can't use the P226
It goes to the left/right when you fire and I don't compensate because BF3 taught me bullets always goes to the center of the screen
a thought just occurred to me
do recon still produce a fuckhuge sniper glare if they're using ironsights on a sniper rifle
So, Shanghai is still broken for me. 1 minute of playing - game freezes and i hear that sound on repeat..
[QUOTE=Altimor;42861621]I can't use the P226
It goes to the left/right when you fire and I don't compensate because BF3 taught me bullets always goes to the center of the screen[/QUOTE]
(without looking at Symthic)
The M9 feels like the P226 but with more predictable upward recoil.
[QUOTE=Reagy;42861470]Server chats, so slow.
[editline]14th November 2013[/editline]
And server crashed, lost all progress and my new unlocks. Fuck this going back to GTAV not touching this unstable shite for another month.[/QUOTE]
NEVER play on 64p servers. They crash 90% of the time.
Also about half of my pistol kills are hip fire. The the laser on the M9 is sick for this.
So anyone got "better netcode" since the patch? I mean, less dying after jumping behind cover ("wallhack), less instakills etc?
Because I just played a few rounds. And it's either nothing changed (still die behind cover consistently) or got worse (instakills a lot more common) now.
I really want to play this game but €45,- is the cheapest I've found and I don't think it is worth it.
It got worse.
Played with network smoothing 0% and got wallhacked and instakilled all the time.
I think it's better to go back to BF3 at this point.
[QUOTE=Zombiespeed;42861764]I really want to play this game but €45,- is the cheapest I've found and I don't think it is worth it.[/QUOTE]
ive got it for 28 euros by using mexican VPN and buying it off origin.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;42858727][IMG]http://puu.sh/5hWuk.png[/IMG]
[img]http://puu.sh/5hWz4.png[/img]
youre very funny. im not including the m249 because thats broken tier lmg and you have to beat the campaign. even then the m249 also has lower stats, but has one advantage with recoil recovery time of 13% better.[/QUOTE]
Is this how you argue? "You're very funny".
The thing with weapons and classes is that they're all situational. A carbine doesn't work in the same situation as a DMR, and vice Versa. A carbine doesn't work in the same situation as a Shotgun, and Vice Versa. I've needed the DMR/shotgun more times than a carbine considering I use engineer for what it's for, destroying tanks and using tanks. Depending on how good the enemy team is and what they're using, I switch between DMR and shotgun. If the enemy team is good at using c4 then I use the shotgun. If the enemy team is good at using rockets, then I use the DMR.
I only used the carbines for seeing how good they are, and until I unlocked the shotgun and DMR.
So is the patch bad, then?
[QUOTE=be;42862046]So is the patch bad, then?[/QUOTE]
Optimization +5/10 fps
Stability - even more crashes
[QUOTE=Hammer7;42861708]NEVER play on 64p servers. They crash 90% of the time.[/QUOTE]
IMO playing on 64p servers is all bad. A clusterfuck, 48p is where it's at.
[editline]14th November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Hammer7;42862081]Optimization +5/10 fps
Stability - even more crashes[/QUOTE]
Worth it
[QUOTE=Zombiespeed;42861764]I really want to play this game but €45,- is the cheapest I've found and I don't think it is worth it.[/QUOTE]
Mexican Origin. £30.
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