[QUOTE=codemaster85;42749193]except dice has never had really good netcode period with the massive amount of lag for hits to ever register and it is extremely obvious to everyone. even planetside 2 didnt have a full second of lag for hits to register at 25-50 ping and thats with hundreds of shots being fired at once. all my games today have been shots that i get markers for, but they kill me in what appears to be instantly.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with your use of absolutes. Nevertheless your complaint about being killed like what seems to be instantly is valid but from what I've gathered it's not an issue with the netcode itself but how the game handles it. It seems like the incoming damage indicator has a low priority and only indicates that you've been hit long after the fact (they all come at the same time, probably when you're already dead). This is definitely something they need to fix, but I haven't experienced it since the Beta. For me it's more that the incoming damage direction doesn't give you the right direction (being shot from the front but indicator says I'm being damaged from the left).
[editline]3rd November 2013[/editline]
Personally I think a bigger problem is that DICE even allows fast vehicle respawn on ranked servers.
That should NOT be an option for ranked. It unbalances the game more than any other issue might.
[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;42749399]I disagree with your use of absolutes. Nevertheless your complaint about being killed like what seems to be instantly is valid but from what I've gathered it's not an issue with the netcode itself but how the game handles it. It seems like the incoming damage indicator has a low priority and only indicates that you've been hit long after the fact (they all come at the same time, probably when you're already dead). This is definitely something they need to fix, but I haven't experienced it since the Beta. For me it's more that the incoming damage direction doesn't give you the right direction (being shot from the front but indicator says I'm being damaged from the left).
[editline]3rd November 2013[/editline]
Personally I think a bigger problem is that DICE even allows fast vehicle respawn on ranked servers.
That should NOT be an option for ranked. It unbalances the game more than any other issue might.[/QUOTE]
name a battlefield game, hell medal of honor game, that has not have that problem since BF2142. there are none and its been getting worse and worse every sequel that comes out. it seems like dice is focusing on making the game full of content/prettiness without actually focusing on the gameplay lately.
this game is completely fucked, i got revived and was in a state where i could only watch, if i pressed escape nothing happened, i had to quit out of the game by alt+f4ing
this game isn't done yet
[QUOTE=camper182 V2;42749471]this game is completely fucked, i got revived and was in a state where i could only watch, if i pressed escape nothing happened, i had to quit out of the game by alt+f4ing
this game isn't done yet[/QUOTE]
Happened to me too, hoped it was a one in a million thing.
Also I found a glitch where you can toggle magnifier without doing the animation and without the magnifier model moving. You just have to toggle the magnifier in the last moments of a reload, after your mag count is restored but before the animation is finished.
[QUOTE=camper182 V2;42749471]this game is completely fucked, i got revived and was in a state where i could only watch, if i pressed escape nothing happened, i had to quit out of the game by alt+f4ing
this game isn't done yet[/QUOTE]
they should of beta tested it for at least a month
[QUOTE=camper182 V2;42749471]this game is completely fucked, i got revived and was in a state where i could only watch, if i pressed escape nothing happened, i had to quit out of the game by alt+f4ing
this game isn't done yet[/QUOTE]
i had that happen in the beta actually :v:
[QUOTE=codemaster85;42749470]name a battlefield game, hell medal of honor game, that has not have that problem since BF2142. there are none and its been getting worse and worse every sequel that comes out. it seems like dice is focusing on making the game full of content/prettiness without actually focusing on the gameplay lately.[/QUOTE]
Which problem are you referring to? Again, it's never good to use absolutes when it comes to subjective experiences. I think the Battlefield franchise has improved with every game, albeit at a different pace depending on the game. I don't know when you started playing the Battlefield franchise but it's pretty much always been praised for its graphics.
The game is still buggy, but I can't say I don't like the gameplay. I'm having fun right now.
[QUOTE=Rankzerox;42732567]Where is my veterans battlepack buuuhuuu[/QUOTE]
im rank 22 now and i still havent got it buhuhu
[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;42749689]Which problem are you referring to? Again, it's never good to use absolutes when it comes to subjective experiences. I think the Battlefield franchise has improved with every game, albeit at a different pace depending on the game. I don't know when you started playing the Battlefield franchise but it's pretty much always been praised for its graphics.
The game is still buggy, but I can't say I don't like the gameplay. I'm having fun right now.[/QUOTE]
Im saying hit detection or visual lag period, dont give me this absolutes bullshit, its been getting slowly worse and worse across. I started playing back when vietnam was first introduced and kinda noticed the lag starting with the BC series, then in 3 it got worse feeling, and now it feels like im a full second behind when firing or being shot at.
fyi: siege of shanghai crashes instantly when the tower collapses. people are going around detonating it just to piss people off.
Oh boy I am now rank 10 after finishing that match. Now I can finally be a commander and-
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/fR1oQ9j.png[/IMG]
Battleloooooooooooggggggggg
E: Seriously? The game said I was rank 10 on the postgame screen. >:C
[QUOTE=Chaos Zero;42748387]Teach me your ways master
No seriously, any tips on getting that unlock?[/QUOTE]
My profile is Apoc13378, jsut add me and send me a message if you want to hop into a game and see.
Battlefield stop crashing
Also I am sad that they nerfed turrets and tanks
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;42750213]Also I am sad that they nerfed turrets and tanks[/QUOTE]
I literally couldn't kill a jeep after raining hell for a good 30 seconds. I was getting the 'vehicle hit' counter sloooowly rising but after all that direct fire the vehicle hit score barely passed 40. Same goes for firing on individual soldiers running around, it's entirely useless unless they just stand there and eat it for a few minutes
jesus christ. a cruise missile hit the bomb point on C in an obliteration map, creating a ditch that made it so you couldn't plant the bomb. the game lasted for a steady 64 minutes because of it.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;42750416]I literally couldn't kill a jeep after raining hell for a good 30 seconds. I was getting the 'vehicle hit' counter sloooowly rising but after all that direct fire the vehicle hit score barely passed 40. Same goes for firing on individual soldiers running around, it's entirely useless unless they just stand there and eat it for a few minutes[/QUOTE]
I swear the starter pistol does more damage than a HMG round from a tank. I remember it took about 2-4 hits to kill someone with it, now it takes about 10
[QUOTE=LilRobot;42750434]jesus christ. a cruise missile hit the bomb point on C in an obliteration map, creating a ditch that made it so you couldn't plant the bomb. the game lasted for a steady 64 minutes because of it.[/QUOTE]
wow
[QUOTE=codemaster85;42749859]Im saying hit detection or visual lag period, dont give me this absolutes bullshit, its been getting slowly worse and worse across. I started playing back when vietnam was first introduced and kinda noticed the lag starting with the BC series, then in 3 it got worse feeling, and now it feels like im a full second behind when firing or being shot at.[/QUOTE]
go play BF2 and tell me the hit detection is worse now.
it has improved, and quite a lot
I just can't get over how amazing the game looks without the shitty color filters from BF3.
Seriously, what were they thinking with that shit in BF3? It could have easily looked just as good without the filters. It's so much more pleasing to the eye now.
And I know the graphics themselves haven't really changed much, because I can still run it on high, even on my outdated 460 GTX.
just played a hour and 4 min long game of obliteration
why
[QUOTE=camper182 V2;42750537]just played a hour and 4 min long game of obliteration
why[/QUOTE]
wasn't it just the most fun thing?
Just picked up my second SRR-61 battlepack. Just 7 marksman ribbons until the FY-JS.
[QUOTE=Wulfram;42750505]go play BF2 and tell me the hit detection is worse now.
it has improved, and quite a lot[/QUOTE]
It really has.
Battlefield 1942/Vietnam/2 had significantly better physics, but the netcode was not better. BF4 is a pretty big step up from those games in the sense that when you shoot somebody, you actually hit them. In the classic Battlefield era, especially 1942, you didn't lead just because of bullet travel time, but also to compensate for lag. In order to hit a moving target, you literally have to miss them. This gets especially weird at point blank range where you're intentionally missing somebody standing right in front of you by over a foot in order to kill them.
Battlefield 3's big problem was that you had to wait for the server's confirmation for everything. This lead to the extremely annoying problem where if you kill somebody, you won't know until a split second later. At long range this was no big deal, but at close range when using weapons with limited ammo counts, you tend to waste bullets because you don't know if you killed the guy or not. Battlefield 4 doesn't have this problem.
I'm not saying BF4's netcode is great, because it's not. My biggest problem right now is the signature Frostbite heavy rubberbanding that comes in with vehicle physics collisions. However to say that Battlefield 4's netcode is worse than previous games is wrong. It's the best Battlefield's netcode has been... which really isn't saying much.
[QUOTE=camper182 V2;42750537]just played a hour and 4 min long game of obliteration
why[/QUOTE]
What the fuck I thought they said they were going to implement a 30 minute time limit for obliteration.
[QUOTE=LilRobot;42750434]jesus christ. a cruise missile hit the bomb point on C in an obliteration map, creating a ditch that made it so you couldn't plant the bomb. the game lasted for a steady 64 minutes because of it.[/QUOTE]
Speaking of ditches, hows terrain deformation in BF4? Is it BF3 alpha deep or more, or is it barely anything again?
[QUOTE=Bloodshot12;42751004]Speaking of ditches, hows terrain deformation in BF4? Is it BF3 alpha deep or more, or is it barely anything again?[/QUOTE]You can dig deep enough to fit a person, so pretty far down.
[QUOTE=Bloodshot12;42751004]Speaking of ditches, hows terrain deformation in BF4? Is it BF3 alpha deep or more, or is it barely anything again?[/QUOTE]
you can basically hide in it as infantry.
So I like to be an armchair general:
[IMG]http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/160/hg37.png[/IMG]
Encouraged by the fact that my 50% XP boost is bugged and the timer doesn't go down on it, and I don't know if playing a normal solder will trigger it. :v:
[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;42751375]So I like to be an armchair general:[/QUOTE]
Do you find random games to command and if so how the hell do you get your team to win? My commander record so far is 1-6.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;42751406]Do you find random games to command and if so how the hell do you get your team to win? My commander record so far is 1-6.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, random games. I just try to help out my team as best as I can. Sometimes there's no helping stupid players but you act as a force multiplier. If you can get a decent team, the synergy helps both you and your team. You give them UAVs, EMPs, Promotions and Resupplies which helps them a great deal, and if they take advantage of your help you get more points and more perks to help your team.
Had something new happen to me. A medic attempted to revive me and I couldnt left click or press space bar. Just sat there for 5 minutes trying to respawn but couldnt.
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