Killing Floor v6 - From Dosh to Brouzouf

[PotatoArmada]

One really annoying bug ive had lately is that sometimes you won't be able to heal yourself if you're over 100 hp. It's been happening a lot with my support and I think other people can't see that you're missing any health either.

[Nickolas Cat]

[QUOTE=Toy_Soldier;47581559]You already identified the problem, don't fight Hans in tight corridors because he'll fuck your world up. He gives plenty of warning, he stops and starts reaching for his bombs before he gives an audio queue identifying he's throwing his bombs. So start running.[/QUOTE]

If you're running he'll just throw the grenades ahead of where you're running to
There's no way to get out of Volter's way without taking at least a little bit of damage

[editline]23rd April 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=Nickolas;47581596]I actually made [url=http://steamcommunity.com/app/232090/discussions/2/618459931321295079/]a thread in the Feedback forum about Hans vs Patty[/url]
Feel free to add your own thoughts and ideas to that thread, the more people got the more likely it'll be noticed by TW and we can have fun with the boss[/QUOTE]

Requoting for the new page cause i think it's important to have people see :v:

[Marphy Black]

[QUOTE=ashxu;47580982]some of the kf1 music is already in the song rotation[/QUOTE]There is no KF1 music in KF2's music rotation.

Speaking of KF1's music in KF2's music rotation, I have created a mod, possibly the first yet for KF2, to put KF1's music into KF2's music rotation! It's fully client-side, so you can install it and play on-line in any server to your heart's content! Check it out here:

[b][url]http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=106211[/url][/b]

No more of that poopy orchestral crap while fighting Hans! You get to have this grace your ears while you choke on some nerve gas:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSue75OBSDc[/media]

[Doom14]

Does the medic shotgun get count as a shotgun to supports?

It'd be more useful than my hunting + HM101 secondaries for Hans.

[HJ-kos]

[QUOTE=Toy_Soldier;47581559]You already identified the problem, don't fight Hans in tight corridors because he'll fuck your world up. He gives plenty of warning, he stops and starts reaching for his bombs before he gives an audio queue identifying he's throwing his bombs. So start running.[/QUOTE]

In a game where 70% of game is tight corridors, yeah. Visual cue IMO is useless considering in solo (or if you're last man standing) you're constantly running from him, and most of the time surroundings are relatively dark and cluttered to see, not to mention backup zeds in latter phase(s?)

[Ax3l]

[QUOTE=Marphy Black;47581619]T[B]here is no KF1 music in KF2's music rotation.
[/B][/QUOTE]

Ahem.

[video=youtube;DyjR1k4fhzs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyjR1k4fhzs[/video]

[odellus]

[QUOTE=Doom14;47581648]Does the medic shotgun get count as a shotgun to supports?

It'd be more useful than my hunting + HM101 secondaries for Hans.[/QUOTE]

for xp, no, unless they changed it from beta, and it specifically says 'support weapons', not shotguns. the perk bonuses say shotguns though, so maybe those do, but i doubt that because the medic shotgun is really strong apparently due to the fact that the medic doesn't get damage from leveling.

[Stiffy360]

[QUOTE=krakadict;47580762]anyone else getting that fading dot effect under the clot and car?
[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/711909623592952943/68D8B0902A9A0968D89C4E25110A662BE2EB5C4B/[/t]

zoom in to see it[/QUOTE]

I know I'm late, but that's caused by the screen space reflections. Not much you can do about it though. (except turn them off, but then the environments don't look as good because there are no sampled cubemaps)

[Pointman]

[QUOTE=Marphy Black;47581619]There is no KF1 music in KF2's music rotation.

Speaking of KF1's music in KF2's music rotation, I have created a mod, possibly the first yet for KF2, to put KF1's music into KF2's music rotation! It's fully client-side, so you can install it and play on-line in any server to your heart's content! Check it out here:

[b][url]http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=106211[/url][/b]

No more of that poopy orchestral crap while fighting Hans! You get to have this grace your ears while you choke on some nerve gas:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSue75OBSDc[/media][/QUOTE]

Does this just add it, or what?

I'd like to be able to put my own songs in.

[Xonax]

Does anyone know how to get KF2 to launch without closing?

[Rusty100]

[QUOTE=HJ-kos;47581543]For me main problem with hans is his unpredictability and short warning time compared to papa, also attack rate.
Patriarch: "This is gonna be end of you!" *fiddles with his rocket launcher for 3 seconds* *rocket shoots*
Hans: "How about some gas" *immedeately shoots gas grenades with 1s fuse and incredibly large range and damage.* *throws smoke afterwards without warning*

With patriarch dying feels more justified - you got careless - you died. Hans just feels like a cheat - "oh, sure, he spammed tight corridor with OP nades and I died because he charged at me right after"[/QUOTE]

the trick to hans is to spam the fuck outta him and dont let him grab you (or anyone)

if everyone successfully avoids being grabbed, he can't regen, and by that round everyone should have aa12's, so he's fucking dead in the water. killed him twice today, first on medium then on hard

being commando is super helpful because i can see when he's low health. so every time he tries to grab people, he's nearly dead. avoid it and fuck him up and hes a goner within 10 seconds

[editline]24th April 2015[/editline]

also enclosing him in a medium sized space with everyone standing separately worked a treat. there was always a few people not in his grenade range while he just sorta circled the room

[Komppu]

I have came up with best plan, everyone goes medic and throws medic nades and scapel Hans, what could go wrong then the nades heal 24/7.

[Fulgrim]

The diagram of the patriarch on the screens in the bio-lab makes him look at least twice as scary as hans.

[nuke4fix]

[QUOTE=Drk;47581066]Support. Or Cheat Engine.

On a sidenote i'm disappointed by the zerk on higher difficulties. You need to play it safe, which is the absolute opposite of what you're expecting when playing that class. Needless to say you end up being a burden, because a zerk that doesn't rape everything isn't a zerk.

And nobody want to be a scrake / fp bot. Especially when you don't have a medic to back you up.[/QUOTE]

Just a heads up if you really want to use Cheat Engine, TW enabled VAC yesterday:
[QUOTE]Added vacmodulefilename – sourceinit.dat[/QUOTE]
[url]https://steamdb.info/app/232090/history/[/url]

[Komppu]

That still shouldn't get in effect until next patch/update right?

[Pops]

[QUOTE=Rusty100;47581821]the trick to hans is to spam the fuck outta him and dont let him grab you (or anyone)

if everyone successfully avoids being grabbed, he can't regen, and by that round everyone should have aa12's, so he's fucking dead in the water. killed him twice today, first on medium then on hard

being commando is super helpful because i can see when he's low health. so every time he tries to grab people, he's nearly dead. avoid it and fuck him up and hes a goner within 10 seconds

[editline]24th April 2015[/editline]

also enclosing him in a medium sized space with everyone standing separately worked a treat. there was always a few people not in his grenade range while he just sorta circled the room[/QUOTE]

what's sad is this is the routine i was using last night, if he was focused on another player i was right behind him slicing/shooting away, if he started to move/nade i instantly backed off, didn't get grabbed once. everyone else was being derpy derp and just standing around.

[nuke4fix]

[QUOTE=Combine 177;47581855]That still shouldn't get in effect until next patch/update right?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't risk. It seems to be server-side, though (there's an option in web admin to toggle VAC on\off)
Not sure about solo.

[Nickolas Cat]

[QUOTE=Marphy Black;47581619]There is no KF1 music in KF2's music rotation.

Speaking of KF1's music in KF2's music rotation, I have created a mod, possibly the first yet for KF2, to put KF1's music into KF2's music rotation! It's fully client-side, so you can install it and play on-line in any server to your heart's content! Check it out here:

[b][url]http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=106211[/url][/b]

No more of that poopy orchestral crap while fighting Hans! You get to have this grace your ears while you choke on some nerve gas:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSue75OBSDc[/media][/QUOTE]

There's actually a remake (i think) of one of the original tracks in the second game
[video=youtube;DyjR1k4fhzs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyjR1k4fhzs[/video]

[lintz]

[QUOTE=Rusty100;47581821]the trick to hans is to spam the fuck outta him and dont let him grab you (or anyone)

if everyone successfully avoids being grabbed, he can't regen, and by that round everyone should have aa12's, so he's fucking dead in the water. killed him twice today, first on medium then on hard

being commando is super helpful because i can see when he's low health. so every time he tries to grab people, he's nearly dead. avoid it and fuck him up and hes a goner within 10 seconds

[editline]24th April 2015[/editline]

also enclosing him in a medium sized space with everyone standing separately worked a treat. there was always a few people not in his grenade range while he just sorta circled the room[/QUOTE]

doesn't hans have a 85% DR when he's trying to grab someone

[Breakfast Buddy]

15% damage is still damage

[Rusty100]

[QUOTE=lintz;47581995]doesn't hans have a 85% DR when he's trying to grab someone[/QUOTE]

i dont know what this means

but when hes grabbing someone he cant be hurt
he will always fully regen.

shooting him while he has grabbed someone is a waste of bullets. just wait until he is TRYING to grab people, but hasnt successfully, that's when hes nearly dust

[Waffuru]

Really love all the trader musics back in KF1, it all sounded so eerie. Like it sets the mood and you take in everything around you, Hospital Horrors imo was great, as you were running to the trader going past all these rooms with carnage and horrors, you just like 'damn gotta hurry and prepare for the next wave'.

[Komppu]

[QUOTE=Rusty100;47582037]i dont know what this means

but when hes grabbing someone he cant be hurt
he will always fully regen.

shooting him while he has grabbed someone is a waste of bullets. just wait until he is TRYING to grab people, but hasnt successfully, that's when hes nearly dust[/QUOTE]

DR = Damage Reduction.

[PieClock]

[QUOTE=Rusty100;47582037]i dont know what this means

but when hes grabbing someone he cant be hurt
he will always fully regen.

shooting him while he has grabbed someone is a waste of bullets. just wait until he is TRYING to grab people, but hasnt successfully, that's when hes nearly dust[/QUOTE]

Damage resistance.

[MarkG06]

Has Tripwire posted any sort of roadmap? It'd be nice to know when they hope to put more weapons and stuff in.

[Raxas]

[QUOTE=Glitchman;47582007]15% damage is still damage[/QUOTE]

It's also a tremendous waste of limited ammo.

[Drk]

[QUOTE=nuke4fix;47581849]Just a heads up if you really want to use Cheat Engine, TW enabled VAC yesterday:

[url]https://steamdb.info/app/232090/history/[/url][/QUOTE]

And ?

I mean we all know that VAC is pretty much a swiss cheese when it comes to protection, that and you can totally launch (actually, that's what most people are doing) solo offline and get your shit done.

In the end who cares, it's a COOP game in early acces. Shit will be reset.

[Skelosk]

[QUOTE=Drk;47582163]And ?

I mean we all know that VAC is pretty much a swiss cheese when it comes to protection, that and you can totally launch (actually, that's what most people are doing) solo offline and get your shit done.

In the end who cares, it's a COOP game in early acces. Shit will be reset.[/QUOTE]

I care. A lot of people care. If I get in a coop game and one of the guys just 1 shot everything, it's not fun. Just because it's fun to you BECAUSE you cheat, doesn't mean it's fun for everyone around you.

[Drk]

[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;47582193]I care. A lot of people care. If I get in a coop game and one of the guys just 1 shot everything, it's not fun. Just because it's fun to you BECAUSE you cheat, doesn't mean it's fun for everyone around you.[/QUOTE]

You can one shot everything at level 0. Just play support, babby broken mode and take the AA-12. If you know how to aim (actually scratch that) nobody will match your final score. While a maxed perk gives you some clear advantages, it doesn't transform you into an unstoppable machine of death. Especially in higher difficulties.

Of course, you can't have such an opinion if you only play on normal. But keep in mind that mode needs to be heavily tweaked, as in the current state it's not "normal" but flat out "easy".

I don't cheat though, i could and anyone could since it's so damn fucking easy, but doing so would totally suck the interest ouf of KF2. We don't have many perks, maps, or weapons to begin with, killing the progression would kill the only incentive i have to play KF2 right now.

Plus, it's a COOP game. You don't compete against people. You try to be as efficient as possible to survive 7 or 10 waves and kill the final boss, that's it. If you're one of these people playing medic, constantly running around trying to get the biggest amount of kills without healing that dude getting obliterated by a fleshpound in a corner, you're a bigger problem than some random kid lvl 25 thanks to cheat engine.

edit : All these fucking tears.

[Skyward]

[QUOTE=Drk;47582296]You can one shot everything at level 0. Just play support, babby broken mode and take the AA-12. If you know how to aim (actually scratch that) nobody will match your final score. While a maxed perk gives you some clear advantages, it doesn't transform you into an unstoppable machine of death. Especially in higher difficulties.

Of course, you can't have such an opinion if you only play on normal. But keep in mind that mode needs to be heavily tweaked, as in the current state it's not "normal" but flat out "easy".

I don't cheat though, i could and anyone could since it's so damn fucking easy, but doing so would totally suck the interest ouf of KF2. We don't have many perks, maps, or weapons to begin with, killing the progression would kill the only incentive i have to play KF2 right now.

Plus, it's a COOP game. You don't compete against people. You try to be as efficient as possible to survive 7 or 10 waves and kill the final boss, that's it. If you're one of these people playing medic, constantly running around trying to get the biggest amount of kills without healing that dude getting obliterated by a fleshpound in a corner, you're a bigger problem than some random kid lvl 25 thanks to cheat engine.

edit : All these fucking tears.[/QUOTE]

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