[QUOTE=ApertureXS200;49799987]What the fuck, dude? Have you seen what happened to boston? Only one explosions was enough to destroy the city, are you saying that there have been more than one in DC? Look at that radius.[/QUOTE]
Compared to every other city in the franchise, Boston is doing pretty well. DC was mostly a few surviving landmarks separated by endless piles of rubble which can only be traversed through the metros, the majority of Las Vegas is gone (though that's probably got a lot to do with engine limitations, and most of the damage was post-war), Pittsburgh was barely hit by the bombs but still turned into a polluted hellhole, the Boneyard barely has buildings left, and San Francisco was largely reduced to radioactive ruins.
Meanwhile, Boston's downtown has plenty of buildings still standing. Boston looks like it has naturally deteriorated since the bomb hit, rather than blown to bits and burned to ashes like most of the others.
Maybe the bomb intended for Boston missed and landed where the glow is? I mean that thing would of totally annihilated the city if it hit it directly :v:
I thought it was aimed for the sentinel site, which would've been a very important target seeing as how it's the east coast's biggest nuclear stockpile and also a launch site.
They used such a powerful warhead because they knew it was mostly underground, but it still wasn't enough, and the facility still stands relatively undamaged.
there's a crater in the middle of Cambridge which I assume was from a nuclear bomb too
I actually liked Boston so much better than dc. Fallout 4's art direction looks more like a retro-futuristic america after a nuclear war than the other recent games, the other two just made it look like 50s america after a nuke hit it and didn't have much futuristic stuff going on out-side of the occasional robot walking around and the odd advanced looking scorched vehicle.
[QUOTE=fear me;49800007]I think it makes sense that the area with the USA's leadership would get tag-teamed by giant fuckbots the hardest.
Boston is in pretty good condition, actually, considering how devastating nukes are even at that range.[/QUOTE]
[sp] most of the nukes destined for boston didn't get launched[/sp]
it's harder to destroy a city when your conscience hits you
[sp]like zao not wanting to launch the rest of his nukes after seeing the original destruction claiming it was already destroyed[/sp]
Turns out the Sentinel Site is based off a real missile defense program, and looks exactly like some of the facilities built as a part of it.
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/SRMSC_MSR_HAER_ND-9-B.jpg[/t]
I love finding out things like this, then going through and doing research about weird cold war era projects and finding out how close some things are between the game and history.
[QUOTE=OzzyCockroach;49799271]Was there not somebody here who was working on recreating the Red Rocket Garage from the trailer? Would be super nice to hear how progress is going.[/QUOTE]
yes, i was. i have yet to revisit it since the last time i posted, mostly because i realized that the upside down concrete foundations i was using as the floor had improper collision set about 10 units below the new 'surface' (original underside).
but i have an idea for how to fix that. i could probably set down regular wooden floors, sunken with their surfaces .1 unit below the upside-down foundations, in order to give proper collision, but to still be hidden beneath the concrete.
i'll probably get back around to it sometime in the next couple days. i just finished my latest project, which was a vertical shack-town set against the movie screen at Starlight, which i'll probably post here.
Thanks for the reminder though, that deserves to get finished.
I wonder how Australia is doing...
I doubt they got directly hit. Would radiation from Asia to the north potentially be a big enough problem to endanger the Aussies, or could they have just rode out the apocalypse?
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;49800374]you know, assuming it was mostly china who threw the bombs at america, geographically it also makes kinda sense cities like los angeles and san francisco were hit directly so accurately (and thus destroyed pretty much largely), and bombs intended for cities like boston falling outside of it/near of it instead of the the intended target destination.
it's a lot harder to hit your target when it's on the completely other side of america as opposed to when it's the first thing you'll encounter going from west to east over the states, combined with the fact these bombs were made by [I]obviously inferior commie china[/I] (god bless the usa btw), it's not surprising they weren't able to be completely accurate over those kind of distances.
still, despite all of that it sadly didn't stop them from turning america into nuclear ashes.[/QUOTE]
But you wouldn't launch missiles straight east from China. The shortest flight path directly from China to the US would straight over the North Pole.
[QUOTE=fear me;49800489]I wonder how Australia is doing...
I doubt they got directly hit. Would radiation from Asia to the north potentially be a big enough problem to endanger the Aussies, or could they have just rode out the apocalypse?[/QUOTE]
From what we understand Australia is basically Mad Max wastelands
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;49800545]Those chinese commies! We're probably even too dumb to figure that out. No wonder we took them with us into our grave![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=fear me;49800489]I wonder how Australia is doing...
I doubt they got directly hit. Would radiation from Asia to the north potentially be a big enough problem to endanger the Aussies, or could they have just rode out the apocalypse?[/QUOTE]
IIRC there was a global rad-storm within a couple weeks of the last bomb falling, showering most of the world in ink-black rain, which poisoned everything that the initial blasts did not.
Most of the world was already pretty ruined from resource depletion, the U.S and China made major breakthroughs in nuclear energy technology which allowed them to survive longer.
[QUOTE=Itauske Roken;49800537]From what we understand Australia is basically Mad Max wastelands[/QUOTE]
so nothings changed then
[QUOTE=Hey I'm Grump;49800637]so nothings changed then[/QUOTE]
Ya cunts :v:
[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;49800374]you know, assuming it was mostly china who threw the bombs at america, geographically it also makes kinda sense cities like los angeles and san francisco were hit directly so accurately (and thus destroyed pretty much largely), and bombs intended for cities like boston falling outside of it/near of it instead of the the intended target destination.
it's a lot harder to hit your target when it's on the completely other side of america as opposed to when it's the first thing you'll encounter going from west to east over the states, combined with the fact these bombs were made by [I]obviously inferior commie china[/I] (god bless the usa btw), it's not surprising they weren't able to be completely accurate over those kind of distances.
still, despite all of that it sadly didn't stop them from turning america into nuclear ashes.
[I]"america will never fall to communist invasion, god bless the united states of america. democracy will never be defeated."[/I][/QUOTE]
You just reminded me, the east coast had a several hour warning before the bombs hit because China started out glassing the west coast. The residents of vault 111 should've been in there for a few hours before the big one blew. :v:
[QUOTE=fear me;49800007]I think it makes sense that the area with the USA's leadership would get tag-teamed by giant fuckbots the hardest.
Boston is in pretty good condition, actually, considering how devastating nukes are even at that range.[/QUOTE]
That is the idea in Modern Nuclear Warfare planning. Biggest targets will be Military sites, and sites of Government and Leadership. Washington D.C., London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, these are cities that will just be POUNDED in Nuclear War, because they house the houses of leadership. The White House, Buckingham Palace, Whatever France has since I've googled and can't for the life of me find where the French Government leadership is., Wherever Germany's President is, and The Kremlin.
[QUOTE=Itauske Roken;49800537]From what we understand Australia is basically Mad Max wastelands[/QUOTE]
I rated this agree before I realized I was in the fallout thread. Still applies.
as far as i understand australia is quite rich in uranium. i can imagine australia being annexed by america or another country for its resources during the resource wars, but that's all speculation and it may already be addressed in the lore somewhere. fallout bible, perhaps?
[QUOTE=tyanet;49800457]Turns out the Sentinel Site is based off a real missile defense program, and looks exactly like some of the facilities built as a part of it.
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/SRMSC_MSR_HAER_ND-9-B.jpg[/t]
I love finding out things like this, then going through and doing research about weird cold war era projects and finding out how close some things are between the game and history.[/QUOTE]
I remember how freaky it was to find that in the Glowing Sea. Like a fucking creepy Pyramid and some towers that survived a nuclear blast that close?
[QUOTE=tyanet;49800457]Turns out the Sentinel Site is based off a real missile defense program, and looks exactly like some of the facilities built as a part of it.
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/SRMSC_MSR_HAER_ND-9-B.jpg[/t]
I love finding out things like this, then going through and doing research about weird cold war era projects and finding out how close some things are between the game and history.[/QUOTE]
Too bad that dungeon is lame as all get-out.
I still think that should have been west-tek 2.0, a sprawling multi-level high security facility with robotic guards, electric security traps, and turret ambushes. Like, far and away the most impressive and eerie building in the entire game, and it's basically just a tunnel with some ghouls in it :why:
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;49800724]Too bad that dungeon is lame as all get-out.
I still think that should have been west-tek 2.0, a sprawling multi-level high security facility with robotic guards, electric security traps, and turret ambushes. Like, far and away the most impressive and eerie building in the entire game, and it's basically just a tunnel with some ghouls in it :why:[/QUOTE]
And Mole rats.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;49800724]Too bad that dungeon is lame as all get-out.
I still think that should have been west-tek 2.0, a sprawling multi-level high security facility with robotic guards, electric security traps, and turret ambushes. Like, far and away the most impressive and eerie building in the entire game, and it's basically just a tunnel with some ghouls in it :why:[/QUOTE]
Same thing with places like Combat Zone and East City Downs being glorified raider camps.
There are so many places in Fallout 4 that just feel like they were left unfinished.
I still think the Glow is one of the most tense and terrifying dungeons in the series, cause the whole time you're poking around and looting you can't help but remind yourself that the only thing standing between you and a case of instantly fatal radiation poisoning is a couple of pills.
[QUOTE=Everything;49800572]showering most of the world in ink-black rain, which poisoned everything that the initial blasts did not.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, that sounds so epic!
[QUOTE=fear me;49800766]I still think the Glow is one of the most tense and terrifying dungeons in the series, cause the whole time you're poking around and looting you can't help but remind yourself that the only thing standing between you and a case of instantly fatal radiation poisoning is a couple of pills.[/QUOTE]
I always liked places with thick atmosphere like The Divide, The Sierra Madre and The Glow. Places so hostile and deadly to humans it feels almost taboo to step into them.
Dragbody released his offical DM overhaul on the GUN Network and it looks SCary
(No album link since I already posted one awhile back).
It's a public release so all I think you need to do is register.
[url]http://www.gunetwork.org/t9260-release-dead-money-horror-overhaul-by-dragbody[/url]
Edit: Someone is also doing a LP of it.
[video=youtube;tcLEfHLXszQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcLEfHLXszQ[/video]
[QUOTE=Skyward;49800750]Same thing with places like Combat Zone and East City Downs being glorified raider camps.
There are so many places in Fallout 4 that just feel like they were left unfinished.[/QUOTE]
Well I mean the irony here is that combat zone and east city down are just glorified dungeons. If bethesda was just going to be dungeoning things up across the board in F4 then they should have focused their resources on turning the sentinel site into a huge mega-dungeon that completely dwarfs everything else. It's also located in one of the most dangerous and inhospitable regions in the entire game, so you get in there thinking "whoa I'm probably going to die like 15 times in here, it's going to be like the sierra army depot or vault 34" and then by the time you get to the end you're just like "what? that's it?"
The combat zone and east city downs are just disappointing because it would have required a fair bit of effort to turn those into something, but thinking about the sentinel site actively infuriates me, because literally all they had to do was make a big puzzle/trap dungeon with stock game assets and it would have been fantastic, but they actually did less with it than they did with other run of the mill dungeons.
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