Dragon Age Inquisition Megathread: Bioware's Last Chance Edition
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Just finished DA2 for the first time last night. I was mostly enjoying it, but goddamn the third act is a mess. It's so nice to take a stand for the poor oppressed mages and then have most of them, including the damned First Enchancher, go all blood mage/abomination/psycho anyway. Gee, I guess I should have sided with the murderous psychopath instead. Thanks game.
[QUOTE=Marden;46643238]I completely avoided Sera since I got her except for her side quest and after that even more. Now I'm reading she's like a machinegun with her bow? Anyone tested if she is truly the best rogue to pick for your party? I usually take Varric but he seems to die quickly in heated battles.[/QUOTE]
I absolutely hate her as character but gameplay wise I find Varric terrible and Sera seems to output better dps.
[video=youtube;mvqSQMXcazQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvqSQMXcazQ[/video]
Freshly recorded by yours truly
[sp]Hey Hawke, remember how you wanted to be a dragon at the start of II?
You're going to be so fucking jealous in the finale. (if you choose certain options at the well.)[/sp]
I guess I completely went the opposite direction for Sera. I took her bow and stomped on it and gave her some daggers. I run with Varric, Vivienne and Sera. With viv being the support with some damage, varric being the ranged DPs and Sera being a poison gas cloud toxic stabber toy. I'm the tank and pretty much the only person who needs health potions is Sera, but her poisons and poison cloud just tear shit up immensely. I've thought about replacing her with a 2H Cassandra though, not sure.
For some time I believed Varric was the most sensible companions from Dragon Age II (which sadly isn't saying much)
Then he decided that [sp]keeping a shard of the artifact of doom that drove his brother insane[/sp] was a good idea
Damn it
You could convince him to [sp]destroy it[/sp]
[QUOTE=kenji;46646832]You could convince him to [sp]destroy it[/sp][/QUOTE]
When he mentioned the possibility of curing his brother with it, I couldn't bring myself to deny him that chance
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;46645993]I guess I completely went the opposite direction for Sera. I took her bow and stomped on it and gave her some daggers. I run with Varric, Vivienne and Sera. With viv being the support with some damage, varric being the ranged DPs and Sera being a poison gas cloud toxic stabber toy. I'm the tank and pretty much the only person who needs health potions is Sera, but her poisons and poison cloud just tear shit up immensely. I've thought about replacing her with a 2H Cassandra though, not sure.[/QUOTE]
On hard and nightmare it's almost essential to have a fadetouched obsidian or silverite dagger (+ guard on hit) and another with hidden blades. Or use fadetouched on both but iirc same masterworks wont stack.
Thanks to Sera being a tempest she's always on some steroid, hits aoe and gains guard with every hit. Much fun.
[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;46646778]For some time I believed Varric was the most sensible companions from Dragon Age II (which sadly isn't saying much)
Then he decided that [sp]keeping a shard of the artifact of doom that drove his brother insane[/sp] was a good idea
Damn it[/QUOTE]
I think all these complaints about people being stupid are a bit silly. People make mistakes. That's what makes them believable characters. The only person in DA2 who did a complete balls to the walls stupid thing was [sp]Anders with the Chantry[/sp]. But people blow up shit and kill hundreds because they think it will help in real life, and they too do it thinking it's totally the right thing to do even though it's inane as shit. So as fucking frustrating and stupid as that was it was still in character. Maybe not in Awakenings character. But that experience and everything since then has changed him. I would do shit today that me a six months ago, let alone about a year ago would make past me think "so out of character".
The characters were fine. People disliking Anders wasn't an accident, he was intolerable to characters in the game too. Just like you don't gel with certain personalities in real life you won't gel with certain in the game.
Sera in Inquisition for example. A lot hate, but there's people that love her too. It's not because Bioware fucked up or they accidentally made her "ugly". She's just another person with flaws. I loved the Origins cast more than any of the consequential games, but to be honest they were all just fantasy archetypes. Since they've put a bit of work into making them seem more warts and all.
This evening I went out of my way to finish Dragon Age II and so I did
During act I and II my Hawke basically remained neutral in the whole mages-templars conflict, opting to help both sides alike if I saw that as fair or just in the current situation
When act III came about, however, I was kind of forced to jump the slippery slope in favor of the templars and chose to help them in The Last Straw. I did that due to:
- Well, fucking [sp]Anders[/sp], to begin with. I was also ready to let him go anyway (don't ask) but I decided to [sp]kill him on the spot, due to Sebastian threatening to send an army against Kirkwall in the future to hunt him down[/sp]. Granted, I didn't have much sympathy for the character at that point, but again I couldn't bring myself to kill him either
- [sp]First Enchanter Orsino[/sp]. By the time you are forced to pick a side you already know there is something shady about him, but when he [sp]talks nonchalanty about your mother's murder, whom he protected to some degree "for science"[/sp], you know all bets are off. These and [sp]him turning into an harvester out of fucking nowhere to serves as one of the final bosses[/sp]
Still, I was very conflicted all the way down to the very choice
I managed to keep nearly all the companions I had available till that point with me, including [sp]Bethany[/sp]. Since [sp]I killed off Anders early on[/sp], however, I had a slightly hard time in the final sequences of the game due to lacking a proper healer
[sp]Meredith[/sp] as my very final boss was an okay fight (nice touch with the statues), but nothing to sweat over (the fights I had in the Mark of the Assassin DLC were considerably harder). [sp]Her[/sp] death is also pretty horrifying. The finale was sudden as shit and barely involved the choices I made during the story: but to be honest I hadn't my hopes that high on the ending being good
I confirm my previous opinion: Dragon Age II is a flawed, barely passable game with few good ideas which can only hook you in if you enjoy the main grey and grey morality, low fantasy context. Oh, and they could had written the characters a bit better: it was like being the director of an asylum
Truth be told, now I have a sudden urge to play Inquisition
[QUOTE]I think all these complaints about people being stupid are a bit silly. People make mistakes. That's what makes them believable characters.[/QUOTE]
One thing is for someone to make some mistakes during his life due to chance and/or poor planning. Another thing entirely is to have no fucking clue what one is doing or the immediate consequences of one's actions
Personally, I liked my companions in Dragon Age II very much, but at several points I found them to lack any kind of credibility whatsoever as characters
I think Merrill and Isabela are the perfect example of this
So am I missing something or is there really no way to turn on auto attack?
Holy shit the French accents are horrible.
[QUOTE=Apollo;46648286]Holy shit the French accents are horrible.[/QUOTE]
It's tradition.
[I]Teeee~gaaaahn![/I]
-Arlessa Isolde, one of the worst french accents I've heard in a game.
Haven't played this game since a couple of weeks ago. Thinking of starting fresh, although I am 17 hours in... I just wasn't digging it.
The open world kinda gave me a headache and the pacing seems a tad off.
Which sucks, as I love the Dragon Age series and lore.
Shamefully I admit I wish it more linear.
I'll be back, one day.
Remember to leave the Hinterlands. If you must, you can just do what the base required stuff and move on.
They made a real bad decision by dumping you in the largest zone with the most content right off the bat as opposed to guiding you for the first hours. It makes the pacing slow to a crawl. Although part of the problem is on the player. If you just move on it makes it much better, but unfortunately the game doesn't do a lot to let the player know when they should stop doing sidequests and move onto the story quests.
[QUOTE=Apollo;46648286]Holy shit the French accents are horrible.[/QUOTE]
Some of them are real french accents, though. Like Leliana, for instance.
A lot of them are faked by anglophone-canadians and english VAs though
Speaking of which, am I the only one that really doesn't like Leliana's voice?
The male French all sound over the top and hilariously snobbish, though I think that may be intentional since they do think of themselves as higher class (in the game). Of course, I wouldn't know a good French accent if it slapped me in the face.
Since I'm not getting Inquisition anytime soon, I went to the Dragon Age wiki, took a look to the choices included in the Keep and wrote all mine down, just to be sure
I have to say, there are a lot of them. Even some that I can't see having any relevance to Inquisition (like the way I dealt with the prisoner at Ostagar)
Does any choice listed make an appearence in Inquisition in some capacity?
[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;46653315]Since I'm not getting Inquisition anytime soon, I went to the Dragon Age wiki, took a look to the choices included in the Keep and wrote all mine down, just to be sure
I have to say, there are a lot of them. Even some that I can't see having any relevance to Inquisition (like the way I dealt with the prisoner at Ostagar)
Does any choice listed make an appearence in Inquisition in some capacity?[/QUOTE]
Some of the choices are there because they affected DA2 and some have no affect on anything. Those choices are there for use in the future by Bioware for other Dragon Age games or DLC/Expansions to Inquisition.
For example, the prisoner at Ostagar may do absolutely nothing right now but something in a DLC could come up in Inquisition that puts importance on that decision.
Is there any use for the "gold horn" item?
To be honest, Dagna showing up was a pretty sweet moment.
[QUOTE=Marden;46655502]To be honest, Dagna showing up was a pretty sweet moment.[/QUOTE]
And you can't fuck her either
THANKS GAIDER
[QUOTE=Trooper-guy1;46654103]Some of the choices are there because they affected DA2 and some have no affect on anything. Those choices are there for use in the future by Bioware for other Dragon Age games or DLC/Expansions to Inquisition.
For example, the prisoner at Ostagar may do absolutely nothing right now but something in a DLC could come up in Inquisition that puts importance on that decision.[/QUOTE]
I don't think so. Some of it are just visual guidelines to the choices you made
[QUOTE=ShabbaCosby;46652261]Haven't played this game since a couple of weeks ago. Thinking of starting fresh, although I am 17 hours in... I just wasn't digging it.
The open world kinda gave me a headache and the pacing seems a tad off.
Which sucks, as I love the Dragon Age series and lore.
Shamefully I admit I wish it more linear.
I'll be back, one day.[/QUOTE]
A big problem I have with the game is some fetch quests have a large search area and you have to run around pinging until you find what you're looking for. I even found one quest in Western Approach with a huge search area that has 5 traps to disable, and the traps don't get marked by pings. You need to be standing almost on top of them before you see them. There's nothing fun about a quest like that.
Honestly I'd rather just have a map marker pointing at the exact thing I need to loot, because running around pinging is just tedious.
Except for the fetch quests, the game is solid. Fun combat, good dialogue, interesting plot (at least so far; I just got done with the thing in the fade and the party that Celene throws so I don't know how far I am).
I wish there was an auto attack button
Holding down the R button doesn't really add anything to the fun factor for me
I can confirm the duplicating trick does work. [sp]The timing of the button presses is a bit tricky, you need to be quick but not too fast. You need to get the window that asks you how much you want to sell but the items has to be gone from the valuables window. If you get the amount window and still see the items in the valuables window you were too quick.[/sp]
I wish there was a fucking patch already
I found this funnier than what I'd had expected
(Warning, SPOILER-ISH)
[video=youtube;J4B9h9BAuJA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4B9h9BAuJA[/video]
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