Dragon Age Inquisition Megathread: Bioware's Last Chance Edition
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After playing Inquisition for some time, I really get when people say that the quests are less involving and mostly collect this and fetch that. I kind of miss the more in-depth side missions with more dialogue and actual story than just collecting this for some generic guy.
I'm gonna be giving Origins a try for the first time. What should I expect from it?
Also I haven't been hearing many good things about Inquisition. Someone explain what's wrong with it in 3 or fewer sentences? :v:
[QUOTE=Vehk;46715060]I'm gonna be giving Origins a try for the first time. What should I expect from it?
Also I haven't been hearing many good things about Inquisition. Someone explain what's wrong with it in 3 or fewer sentences? :v:[/QUOTE]
The main problems:
- Most side quests have minimal depth (skyrim or MMO style)
- Combat is pretty simplistic. Not necessarily bad, but it feels like you're just waiting for abilities to go off cooldown.
- And tied into that, there's little to no tactical elements like Origins had. The tactics options for party members (AI conditions and such) are severely lacking and the overheard tactical view is not only unnecessary most of the time, but is awful to use with M+KB, compared to Origins' fantastic use of it.
- The open world makes the game feel like it focuses too much on quantity over quality.
- A lot of animations in conversations and cutscenes are wonky (a Bioware staple, really).
But honestly, with all of that in consideration, it's still a very good game. I know that may sound really negative, but there's plenty of positive to be said as well. It's not perfect, It's not the return to Origins that people wanted, but still a good game that's very much worth your time. Most people are quick to shit on it because of DA2, or because it's a new Bioware game, but taking it for what it is, don't listen to the people that says its [I]bad.[/I]
[QUOTE=Skyward;46715206]The main problems:
- Most side quests have minimal depth (skyrim or MMO style)
- Combat is pretty simplistic. Not necessarily bad, but it feels like you're just waiting for abilities to go off cooldown.
- And tied into that, there's little to no tactical elements like Origins had. The tactics options for party members (AI conditions and such) are severely lacking and the overheard tactical view is not only unnecessary most of the time, but is awful to use with M+KB, compared to Origins' fantastic use of it.
[B]- The open world makes the game feel like it focuses too much on quality over quantity.[/B]
- A lot of animations in conversations and cutscenes are wonky (a Bioware staple, really).
But honestly, with all of that in consideration, it's still a very good game. I know that may sound really negative, but there's plenty of positive to be said as well. It's not perfect, It's not the return to Origins that people wanted, but still a good game that's very much worth your time. Most people are quick to shit on it because of DA2, or because it's a new Bioware game, but taking it for what it is, don't listen to the people that says its [I]bad.[/I][/QUOTE]
Mind explaining this part more?
Probably got it backwards
[QUOTE=Hellsing4682;46715314]Mind explaining this part more?[/QUOTE]
Sorry I wrote that backwards, quantity over quality. There are a shit load of quests, but very few have a significant level of involvement, compared to the sidequests of, say, Origins.
Have to say... nightmare mode wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. By far, the toughest thing about it was the early game where I spent a good while trying to close a rift three levels above me. 40 hours later, all the zone dragons were taken care of and I was ready to begin the final mission. 30 minutes after that and, well... [sp]my inquisitor became the hero Thedas deserved.[/sp]
My thoughts on the game second time through are surprisingly better than my first. What's different is that I approached it with the mindset that if I absolutely tried to do [i]everything[/i], the pacing of the game would just shit itself. I barely even touched Exalted Plains or Emerald Graves. The only reason I visited was to kill the aforementioned dragons and to wrap up a few companion missions. And seeing as how I cleared the zones on my previous run, I didn't see much reason to do it again. Hissing Wastes and EDL however, were the two zones that I never got to on my first playthrough. The [sp]dragon gauntlet at the end of EDL was great fun[/sp] and [sp]the treasure in the Hissing Wastes tombs were totally worth it[/sp].
My team for the nightmare run was Cassandra, Solas and Sera. Cassandra because she's a tough Navarran who don't need no man (but also because she's a templar and templars are good at killing everything), and Solas and Sera because the elf banter is hilarious. But seriously though, Sera's focus ability is the most OP thing in the game. Two of the dragons I practically one-shotted with my character's mark of death and Sera's thousand-blade thingy. If you're not privy to what mark of death is, it's the final move in the assassin skill tree. From what I gathered, it basically 'counts' how much damage you can do to an enemy over an eight second period and then it [i]delivers[/i] that counted damage in a giant burst when that eight seconds is over. Only reason those two dragons didn't drop dead instantly is because I have a small inkling in the back of my head that they're programmed to fly at least ONCE before they're allowed to die. But back to why I picked Solas, it's because he was probably the most archetype-y mage of the three. Built the right way, he becomes the master at debuffs and setting up those oh-so-crucial combos.
Oh, and because I had to romance him.
Solas Romance spoilers:
[sp]It was a pretty sweet moment when he removed my character's face tattoos,[/sp]
Endgame/Solas Romance spoilers
[sp]but then he just fucks off after we kill Corypheus! Just a small change in dialogue and poof, he's gone. The only indicator that my character romanced him was that small blurb at the end from Leliana and then it's back to celebrating with the rest of the gang. In all honesty, the main reason I did the nightmare run was in preparation for that DLC they've set up in the after-credits scene. How will it change to accommodate for the inquisitor romance? Will Solas still care for my character? Will we even see him again at all?[/sp]
These are the questions that keep me up at night.
Final stat screen:
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/IySYnZZ.jpg[/thumb]
What a sexy bitch
To any people who are having issues with bugs in DAII including rainbow walls, Rayman-like anomalies, and other bugs, it's due to incompatibilities between the latest drivers for Nvidia and DX11 mode. You can turn it down to DX9 mode, but you can instead roll your drivers back to 340.52, the last rendition that is compatible with DA2 DX11 mode.
(Credit to Zedacon for telling me the first solution)
So, going into Inquisition, do I need to DL The Keep or is it already in the base game during character creation?
[QUOTE=Alyx Zark;46716606]So, going into Inquisition, do I need to DL The Keep or is it already in the base game during character creation?[/QUOTE]
Do the keep online and be sure to save it. It's not at character creation
[QUOTE=Skyward;46715477]Sorry I wrote that backwards, quantity over quality. There are a shit load of quests, but very few have a significant level of involvement, compared to the sidequests of, say, Origins.[/QUOTE]
That's my biggest issue. When I started playing I didn't mind completing most of the Hinterlands, doing the side stuff there. Then I did most of Fallow Mire, then the Storm Coast, then the Forbidden Oasis.
Then fatigue set in. After Crestwood I couldn't be arsed anymore to find those shards or to collect all locations. The only motivation that initially kept me going ("Gotta explore the entire map!") was slowly being pushed out of the window by the monotonous and repetitive fights. After Emprise du Lion I simply couldn't get myself together to even look at the last area.
They could have easily reduced the size of those areas by half and instead add more meaningful sidequests. It took me roughly 70 - 80 hours to complete Dragon Age Inquisiton. It's a real shame that any Mass Effect game, for which I roughly needed 30 hours, feels like it had more enjoyable content.
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That's of course leaving all the other good stuff aside. Companions are awesome, as well as the quests related to them or the main plot. It's just there's too little in comparison to the free world stuff.
[QUOTE=Gyrodine;46715976]
Final stat screen:
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/IySYnZZ.jpg[/thumb]
What a sexy bitch[/QUOTE]
Wait ... Is that chest an actual gear piece? With stats and all? Which you can wear?
Cool
I'm not going to get Inquisition anytime soon (I'll wait for a complete edition), but I'm already invested in a rift mage inquisitor who is undergoing a faith crysis by the time the game starts. Good stuff.
I feel like with each passing encounter with the Orlesians, their clothes and armors get more ridiculous.
When Marquis showed up at Haven, I couldn't stop laughing.
That said it's still nicely designed.
[QUOTE=junker154;46717054]I feel like with each passing encounter with the Orlesians, their clothes and armors get more ridiculous.
When Marquis showed up at Haven, I couldn't stop laughing.
That said it's still nicely designed.[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with being a nation of fashion-fanatics.
Besides, the Masquerade sequence is one of the best moments in the game - in my opinion, at least - and excuses any... stupidity, in their outfits.
I'm currently fighting the Envy Demon and it is giving me a lot of trouble. My potions run out so fast and I try to play around with the tactical mode but to no avail. During the stages where he gets reinforcements I just get so easily overwhelmed.
I should have looked into upgrading my potions even further, now I'm stuck.
[QUOTE=junker154;46717725]I'm currently fighting the Envy Demon and it is giving me a lot of trouble. My potions run out so fast and I try to play around with the tactical mode but to no avail. During the stages where he gets reinforcements I just get so easily overwhelmed.
I should have looked into upgrading my potions even further, now I'm stuck.[/QUOTE]
How many potions you had before the fight? Before you start, there's a cache still inside the building, near the balcony.
[QUOTE=guicool-BR-;46717801]How many potions you had before the fight? Before you start, there's a cache still inside the building, near the balcony.[/QUOTE]
I found the cache but my party was already low at health so everyone took one and I only have 4 left.
For the fight itself I discovered that shield walling and keeping the demon occupied like that while my archer and mage do the damage is pretty helpful. Although sometimes my dudes just stand around shield walling nothing. Furthermore if the demon jumps from underneath the earth and hit my mage or my archer, I'm pretty much screwed.
I just wish that the AI tactics was a tad more in-depth, it's almost useless.
The second season of the Walking Dead game isn't helping me to forget Dragon Age II
(For the ones who don't care about the series, you can totally play your protagonist as a voice of reason trying to keep a group together through a lot of shit. In the very end, however, you are forced to choose between two extremists with no clear "good" choice in sight)
[QUOTE=Medevila;46719626]that's what happens when you try to model parts of your game after Skyrim[/QUOTE]
I do admit that the areas are far more interesting to explore compared to DAO but still, the side quests are kind of repetitive, I can see how this can become boring rather quickly. Still I am still a sucker for such things and can waste a ton of time on collecting stuff and exploring the map.
But it's funny that I played through Origins just to get a grasp on the story only to play Inquisition but I feel more compelled to get back to Origins. There is just more depth and detail put into the dialogues and conflicts.
Getting attacked by a goddamn swarm of [URL="http://liandri.beyondunreal.com/Predator"]Predators[/URL] in a Mage-start sidequest of Origins. I got half of them dead without losing anyone and suddenly one of them jumps on me and mauls me to death.
Yeah fuck being a mage, I'm going with a rogue or something.
Anyone think its worth to replay the game after you beat it?
DAI has a weird obsession with baby skeletons and/or cheese.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Xa1ACyM.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/SZgq55r.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/s6YEYtt.jpg[/img]
2 Rogues? m8, wot
I like the armor and weapon customization a lot, especially because it adds nice touches to the armor. That said it is quite hard at first to get a hang of these things.
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;46721112]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/s6YEYtt.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Is that a cheese wheel with a piece missing from it? And you can use it as a shield?
Holy shit, that is fucking amazing.
After attempting to play through the Wilds in Origins, I've come to the conclusion that I hate video games.
:v:
[QUOTE=Vehk;46722281]After attempting to play through the Wilds in Origins, I've come to the conclusion that I hate video games.
:v:[/QUOTE]
Just wait until you have to go through the fade.
Is there any type of helmet in Inquisition that a Qunari can wear?
I keep getting all these baller looking helmets but they're locked for that one race.
Pretty sure the Qunari get face paint instead of actual helmets.
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