Dragon Age Inquisition Megathread: Bioware's Last Chance Edition - Games

Finally, got this game for xmas so I can actually progress past Storm Coast on the rental save I have This game is impossible to rent. Manage to get it the first week, had to leave on vacation the 2nd week, hasn't been in stock since release. Both on gamefly and the local rental places.

[QUOTE=Marden;46750360]She helps you decide which people to hang out with in real life. Avoid those who actually enjoy her.[/QUOTE] Aww, I enjoy her.

[QUOTE=usaokay;46751635]We're no longer best friends.[/QUOTE] We were never friends to begin wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiith.

you have to be a female to romance her

I made a tutorial. I discovered on my second play through there is a choice that significantly changes the game, and makes it [I]much[/I] more enjoyable. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeV-mvhywAU[/media]

Sera looks like an Urukhai.

They need to give her eye makeup like she has on the wiki.

I'm generally really polite towards women's looks BUT WHAT THE FUCK

[QUOTE=kenji;46751822]I made a tutorial. I discovered on my second play through there is a choice that significantly changes the game, and makes it [I]much[/I] more enjoyable. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeV-mvhywAU[/media][/QUOTE] The hordes of journalists/YTers/etc implying how great of a character Sera is just confirmed for me just how completely disconnected from reality almost all of them are. Sometimes I feel like they say stuff like that only because they think it panders to some kind of teenage XD RANDUM readership and are trying to relate to them

[QUOTE=KorJax;46752280]The hordes of journalists/YTers/etc implying how great of a character Sera is just confirmed for me just how completely disconnected from reality almost all of them are. Sometimes I feel like they say stuff like that only because they think it panders to some kind of teenage XD RANDUM readership and are trying to relate to them[/QUOTE] I haven't played the game yet, but it's my understanding that Sera: - Cares more about DA PEOPLE than the ruling classes - Can be romanced by a female inquisitor only (so she's not cisexual) - Gives away a certain edgy vibe (imagine Isabela, but worse) I'd say she will find herself right at home in nowadays Internet

She is just saying random things at times and drifts off during certain conversations into irrelevant stuff and is kind of a robin hood character with an edgy vibe. Also don't forget british accent and some slang terms added into it. Also sometimes her dialogues don't make much sense.

My problem with Sera is that she seems to use Inquisition's resources for stupid operations. I guess minor spoilers if you haven't played for first few hours. [sp]Cassandra, Blackwall, Varric, Cole, Dorian are in it to stop evil. Solas and Vivienne will benefit from stopping the evil. Iron Bull joins/gets hired both to help and spy for the Qun but that can change depending how you solve his quest. Sera joins to help but then gives you quests from the Red Jenny to help DA LITTLE PEOPLE. Bitch, I don't want to risk Inquisition's reputation on some stupid revenges.[/sp]

Don't know what they were thinking when they designed her horrible pug face. Like it doesn't have visual character or anything, she's just ugly, greasy ([I]very[/I] greasy) and annoying

what the fuck this is the first time i've seen her face and it's horrifying

I actually like Sera and enjoy her crazy ass talks. Her accent is also awesome.

[QUOTE=H4wkeye;46753647]I actually like Sera and enjoy her crazy ass talks. Her accent is also awesome.[/QUOTE] [i]Piss![/i]

you probably think her accent is awesome because you're not british

I like sera because she's different as a character. She's one of the few who you can't just bend to your will with dialouge options and actually requires pandering to her childish ideals to get on her good side. Usually in bioware games (with some exceptions) you can just bend a character to be your 'best pal 5ever' fairly easily, just do their companion quest en voila. With sera it's a bit different, and you can easily get on her bad side. She's an uneducated childish misfit with not very much character depth besides that, but I still enjoyed her if merely as some character spice to the game.

I accidentally said some mean things to Sera during that quest where you get ambushed (and she kicks that guy in the balls). And now I'm having a difficult time romancing her :C

[QUOTE=slayer20;46753816]I accidentally said some mean things to Sera during that quest where you get ambushed (and she kicks that guy in the balls). And now I'm having a difficult time romancing her :C[/QUOTE] Yeah I had to reload a previous save to do the correct thing on there. Usually you can just exhaust all the "investigate" options without consequence, but in that case she actually got impatient. I wasn't romancing her, but wanted to get tons of approval with all companions to, well, see their stories. The one thing I like about Dragon Age choices and consequences is that sometimes the choice isn't obvious, morally grey, or there are alternatives. E.G in DAO1 you get the choice of [sp]sacrificing possessed demon boys mother or killing him, and the first time I played that I took the fairly obvious choice of letting the mother die. But then the second time I played through I realized there was an alternative in the mage circle quest. [/sp] You also have to balance practical usefulness vs moral correctness. Another example in Dragon Age Inqusition is the [sp]Iron Bull quest. I chose to let his team die so I would have an alliance with the Qunari because the practical benefit of that is greater.[/sp] or [sp]Turning leliana into a cold blooded killer and then making her divine seemed more practical (especially because in previous DAO ruling with an iron fist hasn't necessarily meant a terrible future. Bhelen.) to enforce long term change than hoping that she'll be a miracle worker and change the chantry with 'niceness.' even though in the end it works out better for the good side 'because miracles.' But how would I have known?[/sp] While in other series like mass effect, KOTOR, etc it's just a fairly obvious "badman badass or "nurturing niceguy." and "nurturing niceguy" usually is better in most cases. There is some balancing of moral correctness and practical usefulness but not nearly as subtle as Dragon Age. It's usually fairly obvious good vs bad things like "interrogate horrified mentally unstable man with PTSD for vaguely useful info" or let him go and take some written information from him.

The three things I wish this game did differently. 1. Smaller more focused zones with effort put into quality sidequests, as opposed to large open zones with mostly uninteresting content. 2. Tactical combat closer to DA:O, with a working tactical view and better programmable AI tactics. 3. [Sp]Scout Harding romance[/sp]

[QUOTE=lintz;46753678]you probably think her accent is awesome because you're not british[/QUOTE] u wot m8?? I'm British and I honestly don't mind it, if anything I welcome the British accent in most games to be honest.

[QUOTE=Skyward;46754535]The three things I wish this game did differently. 1. Smaller more focused zones with effort put into quality sidequests, as opposed to large open zones with mostly uninteresting content. 2. Tactical combat closer to DA:O, with a working tactical view and better programmable AI tactics. 3. [Sp]Scout Harding romance[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp] Hero of Fereldan DLC pls[/sp]

[QUOTE=Skyward;46754535]The three things I wish this game did differently. 1. Smaller more focused zones with effort put into quality sidequests, as opposed to large open zones with mostly uninteresting content. 2. Tactical combat closer to DA:O, with a working tactical view and better programmable AI tactics. 3. [Sp]Scout Harding romance[/Sp][/QUOTE] [sp]scout harding is a dwarf and apparantly the dev/writer got scared of dwarf romances after dao female dwarfs being made to look like pigtailed young girls then put in alistair sex scene[/sp] Yeah pretty much. The sidequests in this game were mind numbingly boring in most cases. (not including companion quests/plot related sidequests which were great.) The whole premise of the areas in general (all the navigation and desperately trying to find a path to a place just to end up hitting a wall over and over) and the collectible sidequests and the herb gathering... ugh. Did not enjoy it as much as just smaller areas and tactical combat like DAO.

[QUOTE=lifehole;46754069]Yeah I had to reload a previous save to do the correct thing on there. Usually you can just exhaust all the "investigate" options without consequence, but in that case she actually got impatient. I wasn't romancing her, but wanted to get tons of approval with all companions to, well, see their stories. The one thing I like about Dragon Age choices and consequences is that sometimes the choice isn't obvious, morally grey, or there are alternatives. E.G in DAO1 you get the choice of [sp]sacrificing possessed demon boys mother or killing him, and the first time I played that I took the fairly obvious choice of letting the mother die. But then the second time I played through I realized there was an alternative in the mage circle quest. [/sp] You also have to balance practical usefulness vs moral correctness. Another example in Dragon Age Inqusition is the [sp]Iron Bull quest. I chose to let his team die so I would have an alliance with the Qunari because the practical benefit of that is greater.[/sp] or [sp]Turning leliana into a cold blooded killer and then making her divine seemed more practical (especially because in previous DAO ruling with an iron fist hasn't necessarily meant a terrible future. Bhelen.) to enforce long term change than hoping that she'll be a miracle worker and change the chantry with 'niceness.' even though in the end it works out better for the good side 'because miracles.' But how would I have known?[/sp] While in other series like mass effect, KOTOR, etc it's just a fairly obvious "badman badass or "nurturing niceguy." and "nurturing niceguy" usually is better in most cases. There is some balancing of moral correctness and practical usefulness but not nearly as subtle as Dragon Age. It's usually fairly obvious good vs bad things like "interrogate horrified mentally unstable man with PTSD for vaguely useful info" or let him go and take some written information from him.[/QUOTE] A large portion of the big choices in Dragon Age are binary choices between one thing which is not perfect, but not terrible, and another thing which is objectively worse. There's some exceptions, but many of them are just that. Case and point, every Mage vs Templar plot in the entire series. They really need to give that a rest.

Sera is alright gameplay wise but as a character she is godawful. If you could mute all her dialogue she would tolerable

[QUOTE=lifehole;46756049][sp]scout harding is a dwarf and apparantly the dev/writer got scared of dwarf romances after dao female dwarfs being made to look like pigtailed young girls then put in alistair sex scene[/sp][/QUOTE] Wut

I get frustrated so badly with this game, is this now a thing or what? Each story mission is just fine until there is one part that is ridiculously difficult to overcome. Although I selected the hard difficulty but usually I do not encounter that many situations where I am completely fucked. With some tactical placement and a more careful approach it works out fine or I level up a bit. But now I am at the mission where you have to aim the trebuchet and the amount of enemies that rush towards you are ridiculous. I manage to do it until half of the bar is filled but by then I run out of potions and everyone starts to die. I already had issues in the Envy demon boss fight. I wish the tactical view had more options because it's not really efficent.

[QUOTE=elowin;46756273]A large portion of the big choices in Dragon Age are binary choices between one thing which is not perfect, but not terrible, and another thing which is objectively worse. There's some exceptions, but many of them are just that. Case and point, every Mage vs Templar plot in the entire series. They really need to give that a rest.[/QUOTE] Binary choices? I suppose there are a few like that but a lot of the choices I remember were usually more. A lot of the choices don't really seem objectively worse, and mostly depend on opinion on plot elements. The Mage vs Templar thing I was 50/50 on throughout the series because there was merits to both sides, and hardly found any side objectively worse. [editline]20th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Skyward;46756387]Wut[/QUOTE] ""I think he was talking about the dwarves. In the game." That is so. Fantasy dwarves are not real-life dwarfs. Also? I was joking, as I believe I even mentioned in that thread. Those comments were after people took something I'd said earlier out of context to mean "David Gaider thinks dwarf sex is gross" ...when what I'd said was that we'd reviewed the sex scenes in DAO with a "worst case scenario", and the Alistair scene was done with a dwarf made to look like a young girl (with pigtails and such) and that had left me a little traumatized. I clarified that as well, but nobody paid any attention to that clarification either, so I've pretty much given up on trying to assure people that I don't hate dwarf romances. So, yup. Dwarves are gross. Eww. Feel free to quote that out of context and spread it around." [URL]http://forum.bioware.com/topic/509530-concerning-comments-by-the-head-writer/[/URL]

[QUOTE=lifehole;46756583]Binary choices? I suppose there are a few like that but a lot of the choices I remember were usually more. A lot of the choices don't really seem objectively worse, and mostly depend on opinion on plot elements. The Mage vs Templar thing I was 50/50 on throughout the series because there was merits to both sides, and hardly found any side objectively worse.[/QUOTE] The templars have consistently been in the wrong the vast majority of the series. They are utterly extremist, murderous control freaks. They allow mages little to no freedom because of the tiny minority of maleficars, and hunt down any mage who defies them, even if they don't practice any sort of evil magic. Furthermore, more than a few times they've resorted to just killing every single mage because a small handfull of them did some shit. They are complete shitheads.