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[QUOTE=LeonS;49499177]i actually started the chalice dungeons about an hour ago for the first time and boy its literally so easy i dont have to put in any effort. probably because im level 85-86 and i have hella good stuff by now. it'll probably get harder the "deeper" i go so w/e, its worth the small amount of effort.[/QUOTE] Depth 3 and on get progressively harder, with the final few being pretty much NG+ level hard and also super bullshit.

[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;49490555]Dark Souls II apparently had [sp]a cut location that looks a bit too familiar to firelink shrine or the Kiln from the first game.[/sp] [url]http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/unused-content[/url][/QUOTE] That doesn't even look anything like the Kiln.

The only chalice i haven't finished is the Lower Loiran, it makes me sleepy due to the colouring and obviously repetitive areas plus it doesn't help that the last 2 bosses are a bit of a stretch even if my character is overlevel'd.

I am ashamed to ask this, but are the Ludwig's Holy Blade and the Holy Moonlight Sword viable (as to say, they dish out nice damage) with a skill/arcane character?

[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;49499300]I am ashamed to ask this, but are the Ludwig's Holy Blade and the Holy Moonlight Sword viable (as to say, they dish out nice damage) with a skill/arcane character?[/QUOTE] Not really. Ludwig's is more quality or str/arc and HMS is just str/arc. Like, you COULD use Ludwig's but you'd be pumping enough levels into Strength even to just use it that you might as well be a strength build. Fire Threaded Cane or Arcane Saw Spear are usually the go-to from what i gather, but i might have that backwards. [Editline] fjshcb [/editline] Burial Blade works well too i think.

[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;49499300]I am ashamed to ask this, but are the Ludwig's Holy Blade and the Holy Moonlight Sword viable (as to say, they dish out nice damage) with a skill/arcane character?[/QUOTE] Moonlight Sword is meant for strength/ arcane builds. Ludwig's Blade is more for quality builds (strength and skill leveled equally). If you wanna' go skill/ arcane, both Blades of Mercy and Burial Blade are the better choice.

If this is gonna be the final game, would anyone else be ok with the final boss actually being a final boss? Say the Great Lord or whatever in this game doesn't hollow or immediately sacrifice himself to the flame, instead he's at his place trying to figure out some other way to break the curse. You finally show up, carrying all those embers and souls on you, and you can help him out for a simple finale, or you can try to kill him to usurp the throne and do your own shit. Problem would be that Great Lords are the most powerful beings in the entire DS universe IIRC, so that wouldn't be very easy to pull off.

[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;49499405]If this is gonna be the final game, would anyone else be ok with the final boss actually being a final boss? Say the Great Lord or whatever in this game doesn't hollow or immediately sacrifice himself to the flame, instead he's at his place trying to figure out some other way to break the curse. You finally show up, carrying all those embers and souls on you, and you can help him out for a simple finale, or you can try to kill him to usurp the throne and do your own shit. Problem would be that Great Lords are the most powerful beings in the entire DS universe IIRC, so that wouldn't be very easy to pull off.[/QUOTE] I though Nito and the Witch of Izalith were Great Lords, though, and the Chosen Undead kills them pretty handily.

either way i feel like it wouldn't fit with the Souls trend of relatively easy final bosses

Honestly i'd rather that trend not continue. Nashandra was the biggest disappointment i've had in a while as far ad final bosses go, especially after that build up in the Throne of Want, and Aldia was little better. Gwyn was mostly easy if you just parried him to death anyhoots.

gwyn was the best simply because of how his character was presented vs how he actually was and that music though, its my favorite from any game

[QUOTE=mickers;49486554]Sif was such a huge pain in the ass to fight, constantly leaping, and sometimes 2 shotting me in what seemed an unavoidable combo [t]http://imgur.com/PWEG3m9.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] a tad late reply, but when I fought sif on this put magic build I did once, I straight up two or three shotted him. It was fucking ridiculous Only pic I can find of that build is this, but I was at least level 100 when I took on sif, so [t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/701786134306952194/7B6E163566B6DE8A92A69DA410DE477E40277A3B/[/t] I also think I was wearing different rings, I'm not sure

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;49499716]a tad late reply, but when I fought sif on this put magic build I did once, I straight up two or three shotted him. It was fucking ridiculous [/QUOTE] You had 44 INT Considering it caps at 50... :v:

[QUOTE=TBot Alpha;49499529]I though Nito and the Witch of Izalith were Great Lords, though, and the Chosen Undead kills them pretty handily.[/QUOTE] I meant in the context of Great Lord Gwyn, at his full power level he could challenge dragons and render the immortal mortal. Besides, in lore, Great Lords such as Nito and all that are supposed to be very powerful. It not maching up ingame is a shame, but I'd love it if we got a challenging final boss to send the Dark Souls series off on a good note.

well they WERE powerful but by the time chosen undead arrives Nito's power has been siphoned by a bunch of necromancers having a bone party, Seath's gone crazy enough to put his entire soul in an easy-to-shatter crystal for the sake of immortality, and the witch of izalith has become little more than a bug hiding behind some burnt old roots. I'd the only ones still genuinely powerful as they were are the four kings, but chosen undead beating them in a straight fight is just a testament to how powerful CU has become

[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;49499985]I meant in the context of Great Lord Gwyn, at his full power level he could challenge dragons and render the immortal mortal. Besides, in lore, Great Lords such as Nito and all that are supposed to be very powerful. It not maching up ingame is a shame, but I'd love it if we got a challenging final boss to send the Dark Souls series off on a good note.[/QUOTE] You also gotta consider that the Lords are still pretty bonkers powerful. In context of the game and not challenge runs, the Lords have been around for millenia and are old and shit and by the time you get to them and have their own issues happening. But you, you've pretty much inject soul-steroids into every inch of your body and used magic rocks on all your gear. At your best, you're barely able to take down essentially forces of nature and reality while they're lining up for the early crow special and not even at their full strengths, hell two out of the four Great Souls aren't even from Great Ones and those two bosses are harder than the others. You're right, in his day, we could never dream of touching Gwyn or any of them and i'd also love it if, as a fellow Lord of Cinder, we kinda got a taste of what it is to go truly toe to toe with a god.

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;49499716]a tad late reply, but when I fought sif on this put magic build I did once, I straight up two or three shotted him. It was fucking ridiculous[/QUOTE] Just get under him if your melee. The standard to boss fighting is to be as close as possible to the enemy's back and side unless you shouldn't.

Anyone know the best place to get summoned to farm sunlight medals in ds2? Edit: I'm getting pretty constant summons at Covetous Demon right now. Every few minutes.

[QUOTE=Nidhogg;49499386]Moonlight Sword is meant for strength/ arcane builds. Ludwig's Blade is more for quality builds (strength and skill leveled equally). If you wanna' go skill/ arcane, both Blades of Mercy and Burial Blade are the better choice.[/QUOTE] Blade of Mercy is shit for arcane builds because it's split damage.

[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;49500064]well they WERE powerful but by the time chosen undead arrives Nito's power has been siphoned by a bunch of necromancers having a bone party, Seath's gone crazy enough to put his entire soul in an easy-to-shatter crystal for the sake of immortality, and the witch of izalith has become little more than a bug hiding behind some burnt old roots. I'd the only ones still genuinely powerful as they were are the four kings, but chosen undead beating them in a straight fight is just a testament to how powerful CU has become[/QUOTE] The Great Lords fall from power is pretty well justified in game to be honest. The Four Kings don't have the entire power of a Lord Soul behind them though, so their ability to actually be stomped is still there even if they weren't weakened from some other event (I want to say they are losing their power as New Londo is pretty devoid of humanity to feed on by that point). Me and my friend finally got around to fighting Gywn with our Smoughs funstick build, it took us three attempts because we were hotseating the game and we both underestimated his first strike. But all it took was four parry/ ripostes and he fucking ate it. For some reason he never tried anything other than a simple sword swing at us. And now we move on to DS2. Why can't I riposte in this game. Please game, I just want to embarrass the enemies (also we just couldn't handle the first Pursuer fight, we peaced the fucking hell out of that when we realised we were doing chip damage at best).

[QUOTE=hakimhakim;49498674]Who's the geniuses that denied our moments with Iosefka? Must be those cunts from team B But then again, real Iosefka could have been a 4/10 chick, so[/QUOTE] Actually you can see the real Iosefka through the broken parts of the window. She looks the same as fake Iosefka who is like 8/10.

tbh im also very smart considering i thought HMS was just a cooler, better version of ludwigs sword so i upgraded that one to max being focused in skill and strength equally. boy howdy was that a minor mistake. sword is still awesome for some enemies though

[video=youtube;g3nR_4F1anI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3nR_4F1anI[/video] Finally Bloodborne movie

Having a good time going through the chalice dungeons but I got to Lower Phtumerian Labyrinth at Layer 3 and it's starting to get pretty Hitler, does it only get worse from here? :v:

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;49499716]a tad late reply, but when I fought sif on this put magic build I did once, I straight up two or three shotted him. It was fucking ridiculous Only pic I can find of that build is this, but I was at least level 100 when I took on sif, so [t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/701786134306952194/7B6E163566B6DE8A92A69DA410DE477E40277A3B/[/t] I also think I was wearing different rings, I'm not sure[/QUOTE] Your build is sort of what im aiming for atm, but with no attunement or dex with moonlight greatsword. I was level 30 when i fought him, i had pretty bad rng for a while with him constantly backing up or flipping over my head into a sprint attack

Undead Giant 2 Electric-Fuckyou is a really shitty boss. Slow and boring and one-shots you constantly. I've wasted literally all my stored Blood Vial and he's still not dead. edit: got him, managed to get him to 1/5th health and popped his ass boil. rip is pieces, shithead.

I just cleared the real 2 final bosses in a single attempt. Damn I've really improved at this game. They used to take me hours upon hours of attempts and frustration until I'd go get help

What gun is good for str/skill builds? ive been using a +3 hunters pistol since the start practically. a good stagger rate is preferable obv

Ludwig's rifle is good for staggering and it has good range. If you're going for a parry though, you need to be pretty close because it has a short recoil that prevents you from getting a visceral as fast as you would with a pistol

can i upgrade my pistol and just get a bigger stagger chance with that or is stagger chance always the same