Dark Souls + Demon's Souls + Bloodborne Megathread VII. Now Only Embers Remain - Games

[QUOTE=Rusty100;48914997]has bloodborne been seriously nerfed since release? there's no way it was this easy the first time[/QUOTE] If you are replaying the game I'd say it's natural because having a previous knowledge about where to go and how to face your enemies is a huge advantage and allows you to stack vials and bullets since the earlier parts of the game

[QUOTE=Quantuam VTX;48915311]Can anyone who has played the stress test confirm that instant backstab is back for ds3?[/QUOTE] The stress test hasn't begun yet - not in the UK anyway. There are 3 sessions of 3 hours to play each day over this weekend.

[QUOTE=Quantuam VTX;48915311]Can anyone who has played the stress test confirm that instant backstab is back for ds3?[/QUOTE] An anecdote from someone. [quote=le reddit]After exploring everything and beating the boss twice, I got somewhere around twenty invasions in, and I can tell you one thing: Dark Souls 1 backstabs are definitely not back. Dodging BS attempts wasn't hard at all. Whenever someone tried to backstab me, I simply rolled away. This resulted in them doing the BS animation, but not actually hitting anything. A lot of the people I invaded were fishing really hard, but I wasn't caught once. I tried all the old counter BS tricks but they all resulted in failed attempts, most of which got punished since I was locked in the animation. There will probably be some new techniques as the meta evolves, but my overall impression is that they won't have anywhere near as big of a presence as in either 1 or maybe even 2. Failed backstab attempts might even become a real annoyance.[/quote]

Thanks! I hated instant backstabs, i really disliked pvp in ds1 because of it. Good to know theres some delay of some sort. [url]http://www.twitch.tv/cshk123/v/20919756[/url] - vod of some dude streaming it

[QUOTE=Rusty100;48914997]has bloodborne been seriously nerfed since release? there's no way it was this easy the first time[/QUOTE] It's a lot easier once you know how to fight everything and where everything is. My last playthrough, I didn't die until Vicar Amelia got lucky and smashed me

[QUOTE=Dr.C;48915579]It's a lot easier once you know how to fight everything and where everything is. My last playthrough, I didn't die until Vicar Amelia got lucky and smashed me[/QUOTE] bloodborne blind playthrough was an amazing and painful experience

any souls like games become scrub souls by the time you've hit your 3rd playthough

I guess some time between when my FFXIV sub runs out and Fallout 4 comes out I should marathon Ds1 again

I fucking hated everything about DS2's parries and backstabs. The PvP was designed purely for greatsword users because terrible players who spam attack bitch that they get parried. Don't make your attacks obvious and you won't get parried. [editline]16th October 2015[/editline] Parry animations should be fast like DS1, but there should be a second or so after you parry where you can't parry again to prevent parry spam. Also the backstab should work like DS1, but the angle should be narrower and it shouldn't lock you in until you actually get hit, as in the blade/club physically touching you.

Dark Souls 2 has the stupid head bop that has a stupidly slow animation, I mean it should just be the DS1 backstab animation but the person getting backstabbed isn't locked in until the animation connects with them. As for parries I disagree entirely. They shouldn't just be for punishing spam, and DS2 absolutely did not accomplish that. The majority of shields had such shitty parry windows that people use just a small handful of shields, and even then most people don't parry and just roll spam. [editline]16th October 2015[/editline] Also, personally I don't care that much about PvP, and the changes they made for DS2 absolutely ruined PvE for me.

[QUOTE=J!NX;48915607]any souls like games become scrub souls by the time you've hit your 3rd playthough[/QUOTE] Until you're at the nightmare frontier or mensis and some naked guy in a helmet shows up. Is he skilled enough to beat me without weapons or armor? Is he a streamer trying to be funny? Is the game glitching? Oh fuck I dodged off a cliff

10 minutes till stress test for britbongs and yurops Fucking ready. They even gave me my platinum Bloodborne code today [editline]16th October 2015[/editline] It's not as nice as the dynamic theme :unimpressed: [editline]16th October 2015[/editline] unless the test starts one hour from now? b-but i'm right next to London

ds1 backstabs are stupid in pvp and insanely OP ds1 PVP is literally just "Backstab them and nothing else", every fucking encounter essentially is about 2 people trying to backstab, it's the [B]ONLY TACTIC[/B] but parries in ds2 are just stupidly timed [editline]16th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr.C;48916188]Until you're at the nightmare frontier or mensis and some naked guy in a helmet shows up. Is he skilled enough to beat me without weapons or armor? Is he a streamer trying to be funny? Is the game glitching? Oh fuck I dodged off a cliff[/QUOTE] hahahaha i killed 3 invaders in a row without even getting hit once i am a fucking g omg a hollow prisoner just killed me

[QUOTE=J!NX;48916197]ds1 backstabs are stupid in pvp and insanely OP ds1 PVP is literally just "Backstab them and nothing else", every fucking encounter essentially is about 2 people trying to backstab, it's the [B]ONLY TACTIC[/B] but parries in ds2 are just stupidly timed [editline]16th October 2015[/editline] hahahaha i killed 3 invaders in a row without even getting hit once i am a fucking g omg a hollow prisoner just killed me[/QUOTE] I once tried to look cool by standing at the high bridge at the nightmare frontier where the invader could easily see me, then his first attack came and I dodged off it and fell to my death into the poison water. There was a guy who really regretted invading me because he just wasn't good enough to beat me since I was playing it safe, so he kept trying to use the NPCs to swarm me but I wasn't going to follow him so I just hid behind some tombstones and surprised him when he came back to the spawn

[QUOTE=Lolkork;48916209]Do you mean that whatever action that the person whos getting backstabbed is doing should continue until the backstab hits?[/QUOTE] Yeah, if that person can dodge or just physically avoid the backstab then the backstab should whiff. I agree that DS1's backstabs were too easy, but I don't think DS2's 'fix' was the right way to go. It just slows gameplay down and thanks to the slow animation and lag it very rarely connects. Backstabs went from the only thing to virtually useless, especially with shit like the jester's top negating backstab entirely.

The few times I was actually invaded in Bloodborne I whiped the floor with my attackers because, apparently, people don't know the Chikage inflicts fast poison

As a huge Dark Souls fan, I can't seem to get into Bloodborne at all. I don't know why. Got up to the first boss and killed him/it and it feels kind of average so far. Does it get better?

[QUOTE=PieClock;48916571]As a huge Dark Souls fan, I can't seem to get into Bloodborne at all. I don't know why. Got up to the first boss and killed him/it and it feels kind of average so far. Does it get better?[/QUOTE] i'd recommend at least beating the second boss before you start drawing conclusions, the first boss is pretty meh in my opinion

cleric beast is entirely optional

it's 5am, i had a cup of energy milk and i am ready to play the video game hey is it still called a stress test if i'm super good at the game and not stressed at all

Was doing well until the server went down, shit No save it seems time to speedrun this badboi

Wow, DS3 looked Demon's Souls as fuck, but it feels Demon's Souls AS FUCK. It's pretty great.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;48915823]I fucking hated everything about DS2's parries and backstabs. The PvP was designed purely for greatsword users because terrible players who spam attack bitch that they get parried. Don't make your attacks obvious and you won't get parried. [editline]16th October 2015[/editline] Parry animations should be fast like DS1, but there should be a second or so after you parry where you can't parry again to prevent parry spam. Also the backstab should work like DS1, but the angle should be narrower and it shouldn't lock you in until you actually get hit, as in the blade/club physically touching you.[/QUOTE] Sooo you're saying parries should be fast, but also not fast? :v: Also, I entirely disagree with the backstabs. Having it doing a "connect" animation gives you a chance to escape if you're quick enough, and I think that's way better than getting instantly vaccum'd into a backstab thanks to DS1's shitty netcode. And that's another thing. Parries were pretty bullshit in DS1 'cuz the timing for it was kinda bonkers in PvP. You basically had to parry a whole damn second before the opponent even does an attack animation due to the game's terrible netcode, making it almost impossible to land a parry unless you tried to bait them. There was a staggering difference with the timing between parrying an NPC enemy's attack and a real player's attack. At least in DS2, however, the parry timing between both NPC's and real players was pretty much the same and you could pretty much parry as soon as you their attack animation start, given you're quick enough to react. If all else, I think DS2's parries were significantly better than DS1's bullshit.

[QUOTE=PieClock;48916571]As a huge Dark Souls fan, I can't seem to get into Bloodborne at all. I don't know why. Got up to the first boss and killed him/it and it feels kind of average so far. Does it get better?[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Father-Gascoigne-Bloodborne-Guide.jpg[/IMG]

is there an NDA on the stress test?

The beta is lovely so far. It's got the good technical side of II and a bit of Demon's Souls with the world and design being a mixture of Dark Souls and Bloodborne.

i was totally invaded while cooping with 2 other people so idk what that "can't be invaded while cooping" thing meant

Managed to beat the boss in just over an hour. Now I'm going to try taking out that[sp]Frost knight[/sp] [QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;48917346]i was totally invaded while cooping with 2 other people so idk what that "can't be invaded while cooping" thing meant[/QUOTE] Might have been a mistranslation and be the complete opposite, like Bloodborne [editline]16th October 2015[/editline] alright, got him how much can we talk about this right now anyway?

Wait, is the stress test up right now? I thought it didn't start 'till way later. [editline]derp[/editline] Oh, you guys are in Europe. Nevermind. :v:

[video=youtube;19k6M6DSzDk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19k6M6DSzDk[/video] Well shit makes sense to me.