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[QUOTE=archangel125;47109689]Kaz is a lecher, part of what makes him so funny. Nothing wrong with an adult finding a sixteen year old attractive, methinks. Just really bad form to actually act on it for obvious reasons.[/QUOTE] I dunno. Suggesting suppositories to some 'young girl' who's bedridden and sick, and then tearing your pants off to attempt apply it (if that was even the intention and not just an excuse for sex) is pretty much borderline rape. He deserved the tissue box to the face for that one.

I hope he hasn't ENTIRELY changed in The Phantom Pain, even following his captivity. It'll be funny to see him trying to make a pass at Quiet. [editline]9th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=RikohZX;47109718]I dunno. Suggesting suppositories to some 'young girl' who's bedridden and sick, and then tearing your pants off to attempt apply it (if that was even the intention and not just an excuse for sex) is pretty much borderline rape. He deserved the tissue box to the face for that one.[/QUOTE] Oh, he totally did. I'm just saying in the context of the story it's funny. [editline]9th February 2015[/editline] I guess that's one of my biggest worries about TPP: That they'll take the humour that other Metal Gear games are famous for out of the picture. I mean, okay. The Chicken hat and the cardboard box mechanics are a sign that Kojima's still got a sense of humour, but I don't want the characters to be angsty hardasses 100% of the time, either.

Kaz is a really good character. He's the beta-male joke of 4chan turned into an actual thing but with respect, he's a real human and wants nothing else but to find his place, but when he has to make decisions of his own he always fails miserably.

[QUOTE=archangel125;47101467]To be fair, Naked Snake isn't handsome by any stretch of the imagination. He's [B]rugged as all shit and a complete badass[/B], inspiring to others in the same way The Boss inspired him. Which makes him attractive in and of itself.[/QUOTE] those are both aspects that help contribute to a mans "handsome-ness" how can one person be so wrong about something

That's the charm of the Metal Gear series. It's got amazing characters, a deep, serious story, and somehow at the same time manages to have stuff on the side that's quirky and silly, managing to separate it from the plot without it seeming too far out of place.

[QUOTE=archangel125;47109772]That's the charm of the Metal Gear series. It's got amazing characters, a deep, serious story, and somehow at the same time manages to have stuff on the side that's quirky and silly, managing to separate it from the plot without it seeming too far out of place.[/QUOTE] MGS is a really video-gamey video game. there's a serious disparity beween gameplay and cutscenes, which is part of the charm.

[QUOTE=archangel125;47109724]It'll be funny to see him trying to make a pass at Quiet.[/QUOTE] He tries to grab her ass, only to remember his arm is missing.

[QUOTE=archangel125;47109772]That's the charm of the Metal Gear series. It's got amazing characters, a deep, serious story, and somehow at the same time manages to have stuff on the side that's quirky and silly, managing to separate it from the plot without it seeming too far out of place.[/QUOTE] ...what?

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;47109792]He tries to grab her ass, only to remember his arm is missing.[/QUOTE] "Sorry Kaz, but it looks like this time, you're disarmed." -Ocelot

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;47109808]...what?[/QUOTE] What part of that don't you understand? I was replying to the poster above you, not you.

[QUOTE=archangel125;47109820]What part of that don't you understand? I was replying to the poster above you, not you.[/QUOTE] ily too bae [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] also am I the only one who's literally exploding about how good the soundtrack will be [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywSz8jOc6P0[/media]

[QUOTE=Egevened;47109881]ily too bae [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] also am I the only one who's literally exploding about how good the soundtrack will be [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywSz8jOc6P0[/media][/QUOTE] It's gon' be good. Y'know, it's going to be sad watching Big Boss have a breakdown. Maybe just because he's personally my favourite MGS series protagonist, I really liked his history with The Boss, and during Peace Walker. I hope Kojima doesn't turn him into a complete psychopath and the player can still sympathize to a small degree.

[t]http://i.imgur.com/vD17Rhk.jpg?1[/t] Deleted shortly after

[QUOTE=Mad.Hatter;47110108][t]http://i.imgur.com/vD17Rhk.jpg?1[/t] Deleted shortly after[/QUOTE] He probably just ordered a pizza and was wondering when the delivery guy would arrive or something.

[QUOTE=Mad.Hatter;47110108][t]http://i.imgur.com/vD17Rhk.jpg?1[/t] Deleted shortly after[/QUOTE] Kaz stop. Kaz. Kaz i cant wait much longer dont pull my leg.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;47110148]Kaz stop. Kaz. Kaz i cant wait much longer dont pull my leg.[/QUOTE] I certainly wouldn't pull Kaz's, it might come off.

[QUOTE=archangel125;47109900]It's gon' be good. Y'know, it's going to be sad watching Big Boss have a breakdown. Maybe just because he's personally my favourite MGS series protagonist, I really liked his history with The Boss, and during Peace Walker. [B]I hope Kojima doesn't turn him into a complete psychopath and the player can still sympathize to a small degree.[/B][/QUOTE] No. Big Boss is a major villain in the series. He needs to start doing brutal war-crime shit at some point or another. Hell, he was training child soldiers in Metal Gear 2, why not start here?

kojima loves big boss too much to ever make him do anythingg evil it'll turn out he was framed or misunderstood just watch

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;47110645]No. Big Boss is a major villain in the series. He needs to start doing brutal war-crime shit at some point or another. Hell, he was training child soldiers in Metal Gear 2, why not start here?[/QUOTE] Zero is the major villain in the series. Big Boss was a huge villain, too, but more sympathetic than Zero ever was.

[QUOTE=archangel125;47110659]Zero is the major villain in the series. Big Boss was a huge villain, too, but more sympathetic than Zero ever was.[/QUOTE] Zero did the things he did because of Big Boss' actions. The AIs' activation and the War Economy wouldn't have even happened if it wasn't for Big Boss going nuclear in Asia.

[QUOTE=tempunary;47110690]Zero did the things he did because of Big Boss' actions. The AIs' activation and the War Economy wouldn't have even happened if it wasn't for Big Boss going nuclear in Asia.[/QUOTE] Eh... and the incident with Pacifica? One way or another, he set it in motion.

[QUOTE=archangel125;47110857]Eh... and the incident with Pacifica? One way or another, he set it in motion.[/QUOTE] That wasn't Zero. If you listen to Paz's tapes in Ground Zeroes she isn't even sure if she's talking to Zero or not, and Skull Face even implies it wasn't Zero on the phone.

[QUOTE=tempunary;47110875]That wasn't Zero. If you listen to Paz's tapes in Ground Zeroes she isn't even sure if she's talking to Zero or not, and Skull Face even implies it wasn't Zero on the phone.[/QUOTE] Huh. The hell? I haven't listened to those yet. [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] It's funny how everyone involved in Operation: Snake Eater eventually turns into a massive asshole.

[QUOTE=tempunary;47110875]That wasn't Zero. If you listen to Paz's tapes in Ground Zeroes she isn't even sure if she's talking to Zero or not, and Skull Face even implies it wasn't Zero on the phone.[/QUOTE] That's because Zero operates by Proxies, he wouldn't want a direct line back to him.

[QUOTE=bdd458;47110957]That's because Zero operates by Proxies, he wouldn't want a direct line back to him.[/QUOTE] which makes sense since if we consider metal gear solid 4 trainwreck of the patriots canon then zero starts creating the proxies for literally everything, industry, military etc around the time ground zeroes happens and when BB wakes up from a coma the system is in full motion

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;47109792]He tries to grab her ass, only to remember his arm is missing.[/QUOTE] "Oh yeah, I lost my ass grabber." B(

[QUOTE=archangel125;47110929]Huh. The hell? I haven't listened to those yet. [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] It's funny how everyone involved in Operation: Snake Eater eventually turns into a massive asshole.[/QUOTE] Except EVA and Sokolov

[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;47113143]Except EVA and Sokolov[/QUOTE] Wasn't EVA Volgin's sex slave for a while? [sp]Therefore, she's definitely got a massive asshole.[/sp] And, [sp]Sokolov died before he could become Zero's besty.[/sp]

[QUOTE=ThePanther;47113215]Wasn't EVA Volgin's sex slave for a while? [sp]Therefore, she's definitely got a massive asshole.[/sp] And, [sp]Sokolov died before he could become Zero's besty.[/sp][/QUOTE] Sokolov dies while the camera's blacked over from a bag on Snake's head, which Portable Ops used to excuse him as having taken a fake death pill to barely survive. And EVA.. let's just say she has proctitis in her medical records while you're escorting her.

You guys are still arguing over who the villain is? No one is. There is no black and white "good guys and bad guys" in Metal Gear. Sure in Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 there were bad guys, but that was the 80s and most of those games have been/are being retconned. Liquid was a bad guy because he wanted to turn Shadow Moses into his Outer Haven, but he was doing that in order to expose The Patriots. Solidus was the bad guy because he orchestrated the 'terrorist attack' on the Big Shell and stole Arsenal Gear, but he did that in an attempt to free America from the control of the Patriots. Ocelot was a bad guy because he ran the worlds largest PMC and tried to take over the System, but the only way to defeat the Patriots and shut the system down was to take control of it from the inside. Snake is a good guy who stops metal gears, except he's also a terrorist who has involved himself in multiple armed conflicts around the world and had a hand in weapon trafficking. Big Boss is an American hero and legendary soldier, who has children in his army and illegal nuclear weapons on his off shore base. Before MGSV was even a thing. The only completely bad guy since MGS1 is Volgin, and he's more of a reprehensible person than a cartoon villain. Even fucking Psycho Mantis got a redemption scene in his death. It's also pretty funny that people keep talking about BB turning into the bad guy in The Phantom Pain when he already has a child soldier, nuclear weapons, a metal gear, and a base (that looks suspiciously like Big Shell).