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for someone who spends so much time with the costumes he could learn photoshop [editline]1st March 2015[/editline] here have the best cosplay ever and a qt 3.14 ocelot [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/wlAE6wv.jpg[/thumb] [editline]1st March 2015[/editline] its literally a guy in sunglasses fuck

I don't know I thought it was cool to see such real looking Solid and Liquids but y'all can sue me

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Am I not getting something

everything you know is about to change

[QUOTE=Pops;47239716]everything you know is about to change[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/TK9Yech.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=IceyMalone;47239355]Am I not getting something[/QUOTE] Don't worry, the less you know and more you ignore it the better.

It's just some idiot fans looking into shit that isn't there

[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;47237123]Not gonna lie, he pulls off a [URL="http://rbf-productions-nl.deviantart.com/gallery/40357171/Metal-Gear-Solid"]scary-good MGS3/V BB[/URL]. [img_thumb]http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/117/6/8/metal_gear___naked_snake_by_rbf_productions-d637dvy.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/049/5/c/mgs_v___make_the_legend_come_back_to_life__by_rbf_productions_nl-d770eh9.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] God-tier Solid/Liquid, second-rate Big Boss. Nice costumes, though.

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;47240136]Wewps nevermind. Those costumes are pretty freaking great though. Kind of looks like Big Boss's face is photoshopped on the lower one for some reason :v: It's the angle.[/QUOTE] He actually did an awesome job with makeup. [img]http://i.imgur.com/GmWAETa.jpg[/img] But he's definitely a better match for Solid's facial structure than BB's, hands down.

[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;47238550]I don't know I thought it was cool to see such real looking Solid and Liquids but y'all can sue me[/QUOTE] It's not that they're bad (they're all really well put together), but they just look really artificial, which I have a feeling is because of makeup and lighting.

Fair enough. I've never seen Metal Gear cosplay on such high a level from anyone else, letalone a male cosplayer who puts that much effort in. I love cosplay but cosplay threads on /v/ are almost exclusively fap threads ; and while that's awesome how much effort goes into those, I like Snakes and so seeing a dude who put that effort in was cool.

The effort is nice, but I don't think I've ever actually been impressed with a Snake or Big Boss cosplay before. They never look quite right to me. And with the realism that MGSV is bringing, it's going to be even harder for cosplayers to hit the mark.

Someone made a really cool video featuring Big Boss, with clips of him from MGS3 interspersed with MGS4's ending. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxH7CgAZFHM[/media] I know that there's a little bit of a split among Metal Gear fans when it comes to characters in the series. Some swear by Solid Snake while calling Big Boss the main villain of the series. Others like me tend to see Big Boss in a more sympathetic light. It might have a lot to do with the order in which we played the games. I first played Metal Gear Solid 3, then 4, and have watched playthroughs of the others. As such, what you see in this video was pretty much my first impressions of BB.

TBH, People who see Big Boss as just a big bad villain and nothing else clearly didn't understand the series at all, since it's heavily about the ambiguity of good and evil and how different ideologies and circumstances affect people. Apart from some cookie cutter bad guy exceptions like Volgin, the series doesn't really have "villains", just clashing ideologies that generate conflict.

Even Volgin, who was written to make you hate the guy, had a little ambiguity hinted at when the Philosopher's legacy and his own motivations were alluded to.

nahhhh I think volgin is pretty much the only villain in the series who can be written off as completely batshit evil The entire series happens [I]because[/I] he's so Saints Row levels of sadistically violent.

[QUOTE=Fosax;47241501]TBH, People who see Big Boss as just a big bad villain and nothing else clearly didn't understand the series at all, since it's heavily about the ambiguity of good and evil and how different ideologies and circumstances affect people. Apart from some cookie cutter bad guy exceptions like Volgin, the series doesn't really have "villains", just clashing ideologies that generate conflict.[/QUOTE] A lot of the 'big bad villain' stuff involving Big Boss was basically his generic villainy streak in MG1 and 2, with most people turning him into a child-soldier making ammoral bastard, alongside a misquote of him being a 'monster' when it was referring to him in close-quarters from one of your support team. With context from the rest of the franchise, Big Boss does some real asshole moves during those games (killing, capturing and suppressing rebels, capturing a scientist and his daughter to force the former to make nuclear weapons, having Gray Fox and Madnar do real shitty stuff in MG2 to stop Snake), but he genuinely thought he was doing a good thing for the people he took in and his charisma made many of them believe it was the right option as well without being brainwashed or evil dickheads about it (well, besides FOXHOUND remnants from his tenure that made it to Shadow Moses and weren't brainwashed by Psycho Mantis, and arguably Dirty Duck). Not to mention the entire reason for nuclear weapons was to be able to hold his own against the Patriots if shit got out of hand or they went after him. Arguably, the most strictly 'evil' person on the entire main series is probably Hot Coldman, who is so ridiculously sociopathic and a psychopath with no redeeming values that it's hard to even care for him. And even he genuinely thinks his method of nuclear deterrence is correct and would lead to world peace, even though it'd nuke Cuba / the MSF in the process.

The funny thing is that he didn't actually send soldiers into battle as children, it was only implied by him that he planned to, and 1) he could have been lying to get Snake to kill him, and 2) he only ever says that he trained them and planned to have them sent them back into war, but not at what age. The kids at Zanzibar land saw him as a sort of father figure.

[QUOTE=archangel125;47241651]The funny thing is that he didn't actually send soldiers into battle as children, it was only implied by him that he planned to, and 1) he could have been lying to get Snake to kill him, and 2) he only ever says that he trained them and sent them back into war, but not at what age. The kids at Zanzibar land saw him as a sort of father figure.[/QUOTE] he lied to get snake to kill him it's why the boss exists as a character in mgs3 in the first place lol

I don't know again, Chico is pretty hard to disprove that Big Boss was adverse to using child soldiers, and TPP trailers seem to hint he's not against the idea. Black and White isn't in MGS but there's definitely shades of gray, and Big Boss veers towards the darker side sometimes. I know a lot of people think Solidus had good intentions but even he was willing to kill loads of innocent people and endanger god knows how many in his war against the patriots [editline]2nd March 2015[/editline] we also don't know any of the hijinks he's going to get up to in TPP. He's certainly not against torture sessions as we've already seen so who knows what other shenanigans he'll pull

If I'm not mistaken, Chico was a child soldier working for the rebel group when Big Boss found him, and thereafter he was used primarily in a support role at Mother Base, organizing intelligence from the field.

[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;47241962]I don't know again, Chico is pretty hard to disprove that Big Boss was adverse to using child soldiers, and TPP trailers seem to hint he's not against the idea. Black and White isn't in MGS but there's definitely shades of gray, and Big Boss veers towards the darker side sometimes. I know a lot of people think Solidus had good intentions but even he was willing to kill loads of innocent people and endanger god knows how many in his war against the patriots [editline]2nd March 2015[/editline] we also don't know any of the hijinks he's going to get up to in TPP. He's certainly not against torture sessions as we've already seen so who knows what other shenanigans he'll pull[/QUOTE] The child soldiers part is weird because we see others with them but not Big Boss himself training or interacting with them yet. Miller even smacks one with his crutches to piss him off and goad him into grabbing their AK, but the most distinctly horrific things implied for Big Boss so far are gunning a bunch of prisoners down in cold blood seemingly, and explicitly doing torture on associates and potential foes/allies. If Big Boss continues to be a father to his men to the point that they're willing to beat the shit out of and pull knives on eachother but practically try to shake themselves free beggingly to avoid stabbing him, then I doubt he's going to treat the child soldiers like shit outright either.

[QUOTE=RikohZX;47242025]The child soldiers part is weird because we see others with them but not Big Boss himself training or interacting with them yet. Miller even smacks one with his crutches to piss him off and goad him into grabbing their AK, but the most distinctly horrific things implied for Big Boss so far are gunning a bunch of prisoners down in cold blood seemingly, and explicitly doing torture on associates and potential foes/allies. If Big Boss continues to be a father to his men to the point that they're willing to beat the shit out of and pull knives on eachother but practically try to shake themselves free beggingly to avoid stabbing him, then I doubt he's going to treat the child soldiers like shit outright either.[/QUOTE] One thing I didn't understand at all was the scene where it looked like MSF soldiers were trying to restrain him and he shot them.

[QUOTE=RikohZX;47242025]The child soldiers part is weird because we see others with them but not Big Boss himself training or interacting with them yet. Miller even smacks one with his crutches to piss him off and goad him into grabbing their AK, but the most distinctly horrific things implied for Big Boss so far are gunning a bunch of prisoners down in cold blood seemingly, and explicitly doing torture on associates and potential foes/allies. If Big Boss continues to be a father to his men to the point that they're willing to beat the shit out of and pull knives on eachother but practically try to shake themselves free beggingly to avoid stabbing him, then I doubt he's going to treat the child soldiers like shit outright either.[/QUOTE] Just a comment on the kid from the trailer. To me it seemed like Big Boss brought child soldiers with him from a mission and Kaz is like "These kids will be useless." and and smacks one of them which angers him and he grabs Boss' rifle from his belt.

[QUOTE=Marden;47242127]Just a comment on the kid from the trailer. To me it seemed like Big Boss brought child soldiers with him from a mission and Kaz is like "These kids will be useless." and and smacks one of them which angers him and he grabs Boss' rifle from his belt.[/QUOTE] That's about the same impression I got. Remember, when Big Boss founds Zanzibar land, these are kids he supposedly 'rescues' from war. He does intend to train them up and raise them as soldiers, but there are never signs he ill-treats them.

[QUOTE=Egevened;47241960]he lied to get snake to kill him [/QUOTE] this is still only a theory though

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;47230657]Morpho is the helicopter, not the pilot. The pilot doesn't have a name.[/QUOTE] [img]http://puu.sh/gjbVS/07c11fe91f.jpg[/img] mgs confirmed as happening in the same reality as deus ex

[QUOTE=archangel125;47241651]The funny thing is that he didn't actually send soldiers into battle as children, it was only implied by him that he planned to, and 1) he could have been lying to get Snake to kill him, and 2) he only ever says that he trained them and planned to have them sent them back into war, but not at what age. The kids at Zanzibar land saw him as a sort of father figure.[/QUOTE] Seeing him as a father figure doesn't stop him from being evil. Solidus is Raiden's "father", but he still killed his biological parents and raised him in an army of child soldiers. [editline]2nd March 2015[/editline] Volgin and Coldman are laughably evil too. One of them reacts to being gifted a nuke by firing it out the window, and we're introduced to the other as he pushes a paraplegic man down the stairs.

[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;47242409]Seeing him as a father figure doesn't stop him from being evil. Solidus is Raiden's "father", but he still killed his biological parents and raised him in an army of child soldiers. [editline]2nd March 2015[/editline] Volgin and Coldman are laughably evil too. One of them reacts to being gifted a nuke by firing it out the window, and we're introduced to the other as he pushes a paraplegic man down the stairs.[/QUOTE] All I'm saying is there's still no evidence Big Boss ever used child soldiers.