Metal Gear Solid - Tactical Megathread Action VIII - We Are Diamond Dogs!
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[QUOTE=ThePanther;47328592]I agreed with pretty much everything he said up until the part about Ground Zeroes. Using sexual exploitation as a way to develop Skullface is not sexism. It's just story telling. Chico was forced into it as well, so it's traumatic for him too. In peace walker and MGS3-4 the female exploitation was there more as a [i]joke[/i] and was purely exploitative in that regard. But in MGS GZ its there to be taken seriously and it's there for a narrative reason, so to me it is a very different approach than in the past metal gears. Which, to me, makes it [B]not[/B] an example of sexism. But in the end it's all very subjective. If someone wants to think that it's sexism, there is some validity to that opinion as well.[/QUOTE]
Plus, considering how Paz had been used to exploit BB and MSF for Cipher's own purposes, she's the one to get exploited. It's an interesting story mechanic, and probably why she decided in the end to jump out of the helicopter.
For how confusing and weird MGS4 is, it's all worth it just for this absolute craziness.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdxb4zbrXt8[/media]
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;47329048][IMG]http://magweasel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/pn1243-500x368.jpg[/IMG]
Jonathan's such a fucking horndog.[/QUOTE]
This is why I want an HD remaster of this game. The writing is absolutely brilliant
I never noticed it before, but in my recent playthrough I noticed that this is the one scene in the game where you can't zoom the camera in during the cutscene. It doesn't look pre-rendered and I find it hard to believe that it was a stylistic choice.
If it is pre-rendered, they sure as hell did little to no compression because it still looks fucking great.
[editline]15th March 2015[/editline]
rip my automerge
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;47329198]This is why I want an HD remaster of this game. The writing is absolutely brilliant[/QUOTE]
Just remaster Snatcher and Policenauts and release them on 3DS.
That would be perfect.
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;47329198]This is why I want an HD remaster of this game. The writing is absolutely brilliant[/QUOTE]
Policenauts is pretty garbage compared to Snatcher.
Can we have a Snatcher remake/sequel on FOX Engine? If Kojima wants to stop doing Metal Gear then Snatcher and Zone of The Enders are the way to go.
snip, nevermind
futureshop is the only store I can find that still has the collectors edition
the nearest one is an hours drive away
let it be known that this is the most effort I've gone to to get a replica of a man's arm
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;47329453]futureshop is the only store I can find that still has the collectors edition
the nearest one is an hours drive away
let it be known that this is the most effort I've gone to to get a replica of a man's arm[/QUOTE]
It's worth it man. It's worth wasting 2 hours worth of gas for a replica of a man's arm.
$100 up front?
I'm going to Gamestop on Tuesday, they better still have that arm.
[sp]That arm's going into my asshole, one way or another.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Shugo;47325281]Metal Gear Criticism[/QUOTE]
The only thing I'd agree with is the fan service regarding interacting with women in cutscenes or the cure menu and EVA in MGS3. While MGS does treat sexuality with more gender parity than most western games, I think it's disingenuous as a fan of the series to say it's completely equal. Women characters are usually the targets of these more interactive jokes. I don't think it's necessarily sexist or harmful, but it's there and I won't deny it's existence, just it's affect on the player.
The rest of the video I disagree with. The critique on the roles for female characters in previous games is the same cherrypicked rundown I've seen before, with added idiosyncrasies like the idea that Rose is somehow pigeon holed into becoming a mother. Naomi dying towards the end of MGS4 was lazy writing but sexist? Nonsense. Kojima was using nanomachines to tie off threads in a story he was no longer interested in telling. Naomi happened to be one of those threads. That said, I don't have proper responses for the BB Corp or Meryls wedding ending and completely agree that the former was a good idea with poor execution and the later was just stupid.
What I get out of videos like these is that no matter what happens to a female character in a video game, someone is going to be unhappy about it. Never mentioned are the characters or aspects of characters who take charge, play forward roles, and are incredibly important to the overall plot of the story, like MGS2's Naomi or MGS3's Boss. People need to stop boxing artists into corners with this idea that if a female character is ever not in a position of power it's somehow harmful to the story of the game or society as a whole.
As for Ground Zeroes, this has been covered extensively by people more articulate than I and I'm sure I've posted about it on FP before. Yes, Paz's torture, rape, and eventual murder by explosion don't characterize her at all. [B]And that's the point.[/B] The entire idea of this is to capture just how cruel and terrible of a person Skullface is and how far he is willing to go to get the things he wants, namely Big Boss and Cypher. The story is so tragic because that's all she is in the end, a tool, a means to an end. I don't understand the people who say on one hand that video games need to break out and be an artform taken seriously then recoil when a game portrays sexual assault as mildly as GZ did.
[QUOTE=usaokay;47329602]It's kinda BS that I cannot put down a deposit for the CE at the Gamestop retailer - I have to pay $100 up front. Now the PS4 version is sold out (online) and I am pretty sure the Xbone will be sold out within next week.[/QUOTE]
Do you seriously need 100 upfront?
(err, 140 for me, fucking CDN prices)
I was under the impression online and in store were the same, if so I should go to gamestop, there's one that's only a marginal 20 minutes away from me.
[img]http://a.pomf.se/vpykyr.png[/img]
Any ideas as to why it's doing this? The folder exists, I even made sure, and the path seems to be fine, but the program is like a fucking child and refuses to acknowledge it's wrong.
Also the menu UI is all kinds of fucked.
[QUOTE=minilandstan;47331378][img]http://a.pomf.se/vpykyr.png[/img]
Any ideas as to why it's doing this? The folder exists, I even made sure, and the path seems to be fine, but the program is like a fucking child and refuses to acknowledge it's wrong.
Also the menu UI is all kinds of fucked.[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, there is no folder or file called 'MGSV' in the Ground Zeroes directory. I haven't modded my GZ yet though so I don't know if that tool is supposed to add it.
I've been working on a series of custom boxarts for the games with a unified/simplified style since I wasn't quite satisfied with the ones already out there. I hunted down the highest-resolution copies of Shinkawa's art out there (it actually took a lot of hunting to find resolutions high enough to be printable).
I've nearly completed MGS2 and 3, and I was wondering what other people thought about them.
[thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/MGS2-preview.png[/thumb][thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/MGS2-PS2-preview.png[/thumb][thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/MGS2-XBOX-preview.png[/thumb][thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/MGS3-preview.png[/thumb][thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/MGS3-PS2-preview.png[/thumb][thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/MGS3D-preview.png[/thumb][thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/MGS3D-3DS-preview.png[/thumb]
These two are based on the Japanese 20th anniversary box art (not the Essentials Collection). I'm conflicted on whether I want to do the console branding or not. I plan on doing the entire series; this is just what I have done so far. What do you think?
For MGS1, I'm having a bit of trouble. I'd like to know if anybody could help me find a high-resolution version of this art:
[thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/Sons_big_boss.JPG[/thumb]
I've been searching all over the place, but the best I can find are blurry art book scans with the edges cut off. I can't simply rip it from the Essentials box either, because they modified it too much for the style I'm going for. If I can't find it, I was thinking of using either [URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/1rC2F4z.jpg"]this[/URL] or [URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/solidliquid.png"]this[/URL].
Shinkawa art is so fucking good man. I'm hoping TPP has a reverisible cover, to also get rid of that DAY 1 EDITION banner
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;47332105]Shinkawa art is so fucking good man. I'm hoping TPP has a reverisible cover, to also get rid of that DAY 1 EDITION banner[/QUOTE]
I was really disappointed that the collector's edition steelbook doesn't have Shinkawa art. Like, what's even the point then?
[QUOTE=Shugo;47332112]I was really disappointed that the collector's edition steelbook doesn't have Shinkawa art. Like, what's even the point then?[/QUOTE]
It's something about the west, isn't it?
Like how Ground Zeroes arbitrarily has Kaz cut off
I also thought this was the final cover art
[thumb]http://tech4gamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/bpvfdricyae6hhe-1.jpg[/thumb]
I like Big Boss's evil glare in that one, as well as Ocelot being on a cover becuase, well, he's Ocelot.
Also it contrasts to Ground Zeroes nicely.
Althoguh to be fair, of all the things that could possibly matter, cover is the least.
[QUOTE=Shugo;47332071]For MGS1, I'm having a bit of trouble. I'd like to know if anybody could help me find a high-resolution version of this art:
[thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/Sons_big_boss.JPG[/thumb]
I've been searching all over the place, but the best I can find are blurry art book scans with the edges cut off. I can't simply rip it from the Essentials box either, because they modified it too much for the style I'm going for. If I can't find it, I was thinking of using either [URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/1rC2F4z.jpg"]this[/URL] or [URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27431030/site%20materials/mgscovers/solidliquid.png"]this[/URL].[/QUOTE]
This is the biggest I've seen. Some of the image is cut off though.
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20461943/060.JPG[/t]
If that one doesn't work out, I tried to find alternates
All I could find that was good
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/b9gpPmS.jpg[/thumb]
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/gmfPb12.png[/thumb]
[editline]16th March 2015[/editline]
also while looking I found did you guys know Shinkawa drew Sniper Wolf naked?
it's like official rule 34
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;47332154]also while looking I found did you guys know Shinkawa drew Sniper Wolf naked?
it's like official rule 34[/QUOTE]
There's not much to it. It's mostly just displaying the personality of the character; it's not that pornographic.
tell that to me 10 minutes ago
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CANNECBVAAAqSCb.jpg:large[/IMG]
from kojima tweeter, few details in it
White mother base looks like an airport.
i hope that dd logo can be replaced
[QUOTE=Pops;47333025]i hope that dd logo can be replaced[/QUOTE]
I think someone mentioned a few pages ago, yeah, you can design your own.
Also Boss has the AK weapon and his pistol seems to have a laser sight and star 2 (maybe weapon ranking based on enemies neutralized?).
[QUOTE=Marden;47332679][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CANNECBVAAAqSCb.jpg:large[/IMG]
from kojima tweeter, few details in it[/QUOTE]
You'll probably be able to do quite a bit with your helicopters, in all of Kojima's helicopter tweets you can see weapons strapped to the interior which you might be able to grab when you're dicking around the map.
There's also a LAM on that pistol I don't recall seeing in the past.
[editline]16th March 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Marden;47333204]Also Boss has the AK weapon and his pistol seems to have a laser sight and star 2 (maybe weapon ranking based on enemies neutralized?).[/QUOTE]
It's probably just the R&D tier.
I want to go inside that command tower and watch my intel team doing tedious paperwork .
Wishful thinking...
[QUOTE=uber.;47333078]I think someone mentioned a few pages ago, yeah, you can design your own.[/QUOTE]
Apparently it's /purposefully/ shitty just so people would decide to change it. If that's true, then hot damn that's a good ploy.
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