transports are pretty low but Go Bank is a pretty huge fuck you considering how long Go Bank can go on for.
Car Shop is fucking lame too, the best part of the heist is the cars and they are basically the shortest part. Stealthing it isn't so bad but again, good luck doing it with pubs.
Hey they did something not total shit. Wonder how they'll fuck up a free DLC for past owners..
Bet they'll do something dumb like say "only purchases from this point on apply"
[editline]9th February 2016[/editline]
Transport is easy quick and fun idk how you can argue it's the worst
I don't really have any problems with Go Bank, so long as someone brings a saw. All of the heists that were once difficult due to placement of sightlines and spawnpoints (particularly cloaker vents on GO Bank) have been made really pretty trivial by gradual power creep of weapons.
I feel like GO Bank is kinda weird because it was created as a map for Counter Strike where both the T and CT Side have windows to shoot and get the jump on eachother in a 5v5 environment as opposed to a 120v4 environment that Payday has, where the player is at a significant disadvantage in terms of numbers.
The trailer includes lines for using uniforms, so there's a chance it's a preplanning choice- though I'm not holding my breath. It also looks like we can go closer to the shore this time on Counterfeit.
Also, another dumb forums newbie question: why does my interface show another page, but clicking on it just takes me back to the current page?
edit: It's a "next page incoming" warning or something, is that it?
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;49707603]Hey they did something not total shit. Wonder how they'll fuck up a free DLC for past owners..
Bet they'll do something dumb like say "only purchases from this point on apply"[/QUOTE]
Nah, they stated that any future purchases of The Wolf Pack for PDTH guarantee you the PD2 version as well
There's so many legitimate grievances with PAYDAY 2, that it baffles me when people just sit here ruminating and invent reasons to be upset.
[editline]9th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Finale;49707636]The trailer includes lines for using uniforms, so there's a chance it's a preplanning choice- though I'm not holding my breath. It also looks like we can go closer to the shore this time on Counterfeit.
Also, another dumb forums newbie question: why does my interface show another page, but clicking on it just takes me back to the current page?
edit: It's a "next page incoming" warning or something, is that it?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's a "the next post makes a new page" thing.
I think GO bank is one of the worst loud heists, but easily one of the best stealth ones (with friends). It actually requires you to actively be doing a whole lot of things (phones, searching documents, moving civilians, keeping them down when someone walks past, sawing).
The heist has time soft-time limits with the impending doom of extra guards coming in, meaning you have to act fast, without resorting to a stupid timer.
It is different from other heists in that you aren't just dodging guards.
In my opinion, its one of the most beautifully crafted stealth heists in the game. Its a challenge with enough randomness to make each round different, but still be playable.
If you hate the heist, play it with a coordinated team of 3+ people.
Not taking the piss at OVK, but had a laugh with my friends about the idea that potentially, Wolf Pack was finished and being put aside to release alongside COP part 2 or 3 next month. Modders port Undercover before Wolf Pack can be released, suddenly Almir kicks in the front door at the offices 'GUYS, HOLY [B][I]FUCK[/I][/B]'
[QUOTE=SlickBlade;49710447]Not taking the piss at OVK, but had a laugh with my friends about the idea that potentially, Wolf Pack was finished and being put aside to release alongside COP part 2 or 3 next month. Modders port Undercover before Wolf Pack can be released, suddenly Almir kicks in the front door at the offices 'GUYS, HOLY [B][I]FUCK[/I][/B]'[/QUOTE]
Naw, they had it planned far in advance. We were warned ahead of time about it, so all is cool!
[QUOTE=KaptonJack;49708209]There's so many legitimate grievances with PAYDAY 2, that it baffles me when people just sit here ruminating and invent reasons to be upset.
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there's a peculiar thing that people do on the internet where the notion of groupthink somehow takes over any semblance of individual thought and critical application on opinions of entertainment media
I mean you can stop at "it's the internet" but it's really a strange thing.
[I]here's what's happening:[/I]
someone bakes you cookies at an expense and they've been pretty good, maybe they charge too much for too little cookie, but they're still pretty good cookies. one day they're like "oooo man do we have some good cookies for you this time" and they open the box and inside is just a hornets nest with cookie dough slapped on it on various places. you get stung, and rightfully you feel a little bit betrayed. you looked forward to those cookies and you're a little hurt.
days later, they apologize for their "cookie" and spend a great deal of time explaining how they're going to rectify the situation going forward. some of your friends spend time ruminating over how they're never going to eat a cookie from this baker ever again, no matter what. you get some ideas that maybe you don't like these cookies either, but you're not sure.
today, they unveil a new cookie. and to you, they say, "since you've been a loyal cookie eater in the past, we're going to give you these cookies for free. there's literally no disadvantage here. this is a free lunch for you." but off in the distance, some strangers and some of your friends are shouting in the distance, "DON'T EAT THE COOKIES, THEY PROBABLY BAKED THEM IN PISS OR STUFFED COCKROACHES IN THEM"
this is where our story branches.
to the irrational thinker and cookie eater, they slap the cookie jar out of the baker's hands and yell "YOU'RE A DIRTY PISS COOKIE EATER AND MAKER" and you go join your friends and strangers in some dark alley eating rice cakes or whatever other stupid snack you've moved onto. you swear you hear one of the group mumbling about how these rice cakes are stale.
to the rational thinker and cookie eater, you take the cookie jar with full to mild levels of trust. they're right, it's an entirely free cookie for you, and if you don't like it, you can choose not to eat it at no cost to you. you were no better before the cookie if you didn't like it, and the only disadvantage to you is that you now realize you don't like that kind of cookie and maybe you won't eat any more of their cookies. the point is, you don't know what that kind of cookie is like, and it'd be silly to listen to other people's opinions on those brand new cookies, because their opinion is just as fresh as yours.
basically if you've ever said, "HOW'RE THEY GONNA FUCK THIS ONE UP" to this pack or recent actions, it's time to take a step back
So thinking, should the Pacifist achievement return, what's the best method?
For those needing a reminder, the PD:TH Pacifist achievement was completing Counterfeit on Hard or higher with 0 kills, no bots cause they count.
Likely the achievement will return requiring Overkill or higher.
So far my friend and I reckon Rogue deck + Dodge skills, Grinder + weak pistol to unload in bulldozer chest, fully upgraded ECMS for x2 count x2 duration and recharge every 4 min, and any combination of those examples.
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;49707691]Nah, they stated that any future purchases of The Wolf Pack for PDTH guarantee you the PD2 version as well[/QUOTE]
That's what I said, I was talking about them making it so past ones don't apply
[QUOTE=SlickBlade;49710662]So thinking, should the Pacifist achievement return, what's the best method?
For those needing a reminder, the PD:TH Pacifist achievement was completing Counterfeit on Hard or higher with 0 kills, no bots cause they count.
Likely the achievement will return requiring Overkill or higher.
So far my friend and I reckon Rogue deck + Dodge skills, Grinder + weak pistol to unload in bulldozer chest, fully upgraded ECMS for x2 count x2 duration and recharge every 4 min, and any combination of those examples.[/QUOTE]
it'd be much much MUCH easier than the TH version so don't freak out, jesus i hated that achievement.
We just have access to so many more abilities than TH that they'll probably be a build for it, you're going about the right way.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;49710755]That's what I said, I was talking about them making it so past ones don't apply[/QUOTE]
Except according to steam mods,any purchase from any point count.
ehm, what about the masks?
Eh, it's something I guess. At least maybe now armour regen upgrades might be more noticeable.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cxJMQ3f.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=SC;49711534]Eh, it's something I guess. At least maybe now armour regen upgrades might be more noticeable.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cxJMQ3f.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
wait what is this a mod or something
Haven't seen it posted here, but apparently Bodhi is voiced by Josh Lenn, face model and motion actor of Hoxton. Pretty cool.
[QUOTE=Zombie Strider;49710236]I think GO bank is one of the worst loud heists, but easily one of the best stealth ones (with friends). It actually requires you to actively be doing a whole lot of things (phones, searching documents, moving civilians, keeping them down when someone walks past, sawing).
The heist has time soft-time limits with the impending doom of extra guards coming in, meaning you have to act fast, without resorting to a stupid timer.
It is different from other heists in that you aren't just dodging guards.
In my opinion, its one of the most beautifully crafted stealth heists in the game. Its a challenge with enough randomness to make each round different, but still be playable.
If you hate the heist, play it with a coordinated team of 3+ people.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't call it beautifully crafted. Once you've killed/tied everyone and taken the lobby, one player has the thrill of standing by the phone and waiting to press F for the whole heist. One is probably in the vault sawing repetitively. The other two have to take care of infinite spawning civilians, which almost definitely means cleaner costs. Once you're out of body bags, each new corpse will begin alerting civilians closer and closer to the edge of the map. If one gets alerted out of map bounds you have to chuck a grenade and hope for the best.
The concept of holding the bank and giving each player something to do sounds good on paper, but the execution is sloppy and tedious.
I dislike GO Bank mostly because it's probably the one of the heists that relies greatly upon RNG pretty much regardless how you play it. It might even be THE greatest one. Seems like stealth, or loud, there is always the potential for the game to completely fucking hate you, and throw some stupid scenario that makes the entire thing miserable.
[QUOTE=Flubbman;49711764]Haven't seen it posted here, but apparently Bodhi is voiced by Josh Lenn, face model and motion actor of Hoxton. Pretty cool.[/QUOTE]
So now we have three Hoxtons.
Hoxton-Hoxton, Hoxyton-Houston and Hoxton-Bohdi
day 2's out
[IMG]http://puu.sh/n2QBa/378c7b54c0.png[/IMG]
they're learning!
[QUOTE=Flubbman;49712481]day 2's out
[IMG]http://puu.sh/n2QBa/378c7b54c0.png[/IMG]
they're learning![/QUOTE]
Good decision, I think everyone is tired of melee reskins.
On another note, jesus, this DLC's weapons look gorgeous as hell. The web previews at least
china puff puff is a secondary weapon what
Three Way Deal 2016 is so fucking nice, Simon, take my babies.
Wait, good stuff is happening? How can that be?
Simon's music just keeps getting better every time, he turned Home Invasion from my least favorite track into my n°1 favorite track.
This DLC seems nice so far, i like the direction they're taking with melee, as much as i love melee weapons reskins are annoying and it's much better to have one melee with a unique cosmetic feature imo.
I don't see a Day 2 yet
Strange
I'm hearing some serious heresy here. Home Invasion is one of the best song of the soundtrack. How dare you have a different opinion.
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