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[QUOTE=Latex;50842413]That's exatly what i'm saying.
When he is in his ult-form all he need to is swing his sword at the general postcode the enemy is occupying and they get sliced up like a fucking onion.[/QUOTE]
I've never seen goal posts shift that quickly before.
I had time for a single Quick Play match and this happened. Please be in awe.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TXe_ZAbcWw[/media]
[QUOTE=Kiamberm;50842515]I've never seen goal posts shift that quickly before.[/QUOTE]
Alright then, i clarify on what i think is wrong with Genji.
I guess i'll start with his shotgun alt-fire, which means all you have to do is run up to an enemy spamming right-click and you'll deal significant damage.
Now i think that would be just fine on it's own, but things starts breaking when you factor in his insane mobility which requires very little input from the player other than spamming spacebar.
And on top of that there is his reflect ability which grants immunity from almost every attack in the game.
Saying he requires no aim earlier was hyperbole on my part, but i do think his current abilities makes him way too forgiving.
Right now anyone can play him and spam spacebar near a wall, and the avarage player is gonna have a terrible time even hitting him, and when things get hairy he can just press E and dash away.
I think a lot of the problems people have with Genji can be fixed by making his reflect unable to reflect melee attacks and explosives, and make him unable to go straight from a ledge climb into a double jump.
And of course tighten the hitboxes on his ultimate so he actually has to hit people to kill them.
I keep getting white/blue items, all I'm getting from the new items are lines, sprays and avatars. The game is just mocking me when it gives me a duplicated of the only skin I have for Soldier 76, olive. I bought Bone skin. Can I please get Zarya's champion skin, game?
Seriously I hope Blizzard let's us use our coins to get the items, it's really annoying to rely on RNG to get one of many new items.
Why do 9/10 bastions just stay in one spot?
When I play bastion I move constantly. It's the only way to stay effective. Most enemies freak out when I'm in a spot opposite than the one they expected.
[QUOTE=redBadger;50842323][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZCmKPSZW5E[/media]
Very good hook game. Nobody on their side bothered to go reaper.[/QUOTE]
I like how someone shot you as you laid down and that low health Ana just stood there enjoying her fine piece of work, then she got hooked right as you got up.
[QUOTE=Sift;50842544]I had time for a single Quick Play match and this happened. Please be in awe.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TXe_ZAbcWw[/media][/QUOTE]
It's like the other team never even heard of contesting the objective.
Had a game where the entire team solo ulted me after every spawn. Like fuck off holy shit.
Welp, it finally happened.
[t]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/201199088199270400/211749941842935811/unknown.png[/t]
The top 500s are average ranked 81~.
Not sure how this game existed.
Lost like fuck all in regards to competitive progress but, what a waste of time, doesn't feel good to be stomped by a Genji with Ana + Zenyatta babysitting him on an already one sided game.
Just very annoyed how they wrote up the matchmaking to be this dumb.
[QUOTE=Latex;50842711]Alright then, i clarify on what i think is wrong with Genji.
I guess i'll start with his shotgun alt-fire, which means all you have to do is run up to an enemy spamming right-click and you'll deal significant damage.
Now i think that would be just fine on it's own, but things starts breaking when you factor in his insane mobility which requires very little input from the player other than spamming spacebar.
And on top of that there is his reflect ability which grants immunity from almost every attack in the game.
Saying he requires no aim earlier was hyperbole on my part, but i do think his current abilities makes him way too forgiving.
Right now anyone can play him and spam spacebar near a wall, and the avarage player is gonna have a terrible time even hitting him, and when things get hairy he can just press E and dash away.
I think a lot of the problems people have with Genji can be fixed by making his reflect unable to reflect melee attacks and explosives, and make him unable to go straight from a ledge climb into a double jump.
And of course tighten the hitboxes on his ultimate so he actually has to hit people to kill them.[/QUOTE]
You should look up the hitbox on his ult, it's actually pretty terrible in a lot of cases. The entire bottom of the screen is actually empty so most genji's have to stare at the floor to get the cut to register.
Also the shotgun slice is kind of ass at any range except close up. I've chased people down spamming it and it does jack shit half the time or only a single one hits. What's going on is he has a combo of shotgun, melee, dash that usually finishes off squishy heroes.
The honest problem with Genji is that he's fast and mobile and let's face it, a lot of people have the aiming skills of a brick with a gun taped to it which frustrates people with bad aim, and instead of acknowledging that it's easier to say "take away all his mobility! take away all his combos! nerf him!"
I'm not saying he's NOT a good hero by any means as a aside, nor am I saying "pshhh casuals I can hit him 100% of the time", It's just kind of a simple fact that if I don't acknowledge personally I'm not going to get better at the game. Like Mei, Winston and Zarya all spring to mind and shit all over Genji's life in a lot of cases, he has the same amount of hard counters as everyone else, it's just learning how to play better instead of whining on a message board endlessly.
[editline]7th August 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;50842748]It's like the other team never even heard of contesting the objective.[/QUOTE]
Was watching a video and talking to a friend the entire time on Discord, I had no idea what was going on most of the time.
[vid]https://clips-media-assets.twitch.tv/22698756064-index-0000013819.mp4#t=0[/vid]
Guy gets mad at pokelawls in OW.
EDIT:
[vid]https://clips-media-assets.twitch.tv/22698756064-index-0000013905.mp4#t=0[/vid]
Hahaha.
Mcree at the moment is fine, he's strong if you can actually aim but if the person playing is bad he really doesn't do anything.
Zenyattas attacks need to be nerfed, i've played a few games now where Zen just lobs balls in my general area and i get one shotted from a good 20-30 meters away.
[QUOTE=Reyjr43;50842824][vid]https://clips-media-assets.twitch.tv/22698756064-index-0000013819.mp4#t=0[/vid]
Guy gets mad at pokelawls in OW.
EDIT:
[vid]https://clips-media-assets.twitch.tv/22698756064-index-0000013905.mp4#t=0[/vid]
Hahaha.[/QUOTE]
I decided to check his stream out earlier tonight. He was in a debate with chat about how "Genji isn't OP, you just need to use Lucio and Zen to counter him, if you just follow the meta of using those 2 heros he's fine." Like, he's a pretty good player, but if your mindset on "x hero is fine you just need to make sure you always have these 2 heros no matter what on your team" then I don't think you're really in the right to talk about balance. Fighting the same comps over and over again while using the same comps over and over again gets pretty boring.
I mean, it took me longer than most but I'm also starting to get real sick of seeing Genji every game. It's like the game focused from who has the better Widow wins to who has the better Genji wins.
[QUOTE=Sift;50842801]You should look up the hitbox on his ult, it's actually pretty terrible in a lot of cases. The entire bottom of the screen is actually empty so most genji's have to stare at the floor to get the cut to register.
Also the shotgun slice is kind of ass at any range except close up. I've chased people down spamming it and it does jack shit half the time or only a single one hits. What's going on is he has a combo of shotgun, melee, dash that usually finishes off squishy heroes.
The honest problem with Genji is that he's fast and mobile and let's face it, a lot of people have the aiming skills of a brick with a gun taped to it which frustrates people with bad aim, and instead of acknowledging that it's easier to say "take away all his mobility! take away all his combos! nerf him!"
I'm not saying he's NOT a good hero by any means as a aside, nor am I saying "pshhh casuals I can hit him 100% of the time", It's just kind of a simple fact that if I don't acknowledge personally I'm not going to get better at the game. Like Mei, Winston and Zarya all spring to mind and shit all over Genji's life in a lot of cases, he has the same amount of hard counters as everyone else, it's just learning how to play better instead of whining on a message board endlessly.
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As i said, i think his shurikens are fine.
I wouldn't even have problems with his mobility if only there was some skill and finesse required to pull it off, but there just isn't.
Right now the only thing you have to keep in mind when jumping around like a mad cunt is the cooldown on his dash.
The only somewhat reliable counter to him is Zarya.
Mei, Symmetra and Winston will fuck him up if the conditions are right, but otherwise those characters(especially Mei and Symmetra) have so little utility in their current state and will be dead weight on the team most of the time.
Finally don't have my PoTG moment stolen by a Genji pressing Q and the killcam bug happens so I can't see any of it.
I know it's late to say that, but the first time i'v seen someone rage a lot in a game was in the [url=http://overwatch.wikia.com/wiki/Weekly_Brawl/MOBAwatch]MOBAwatch[/url] brawl.
Our team was bad, and our Lucio was so mad that he told our team that:
[img]http://www.jepix.fr/images/derpfa.png[/img]
"What a bunch of retarted AFK" (Even if no one was AFK)
"Going afk spawn"
And then, our Lucio was going to the other side of the map doing nothing to help.
I found that hilarious that the first player that mad was french and in the MOBA brawl. :v:
[QUOTE=Latex;50842902]As i said, i think his shurikens are fine.
I wouldn't even have problems with his mobility if only there was some skill and finesse required to pull it off, but there just isn't.
Right now the only thing you have to keep in mind when jumping around like a mad cunt is the cooldown on his dash.
The only somewhat reliable counter to him is Zarya.
Mei, Symmetra and Winston will fuck him up if the conditions are right, but otherwise those characters(especially Mei and Symmetra) have so little utility in their current state and will be dead weight on the team most of the time.[/QUOTE]
There is plenty of skill required to pull off anything notable with genji.
But what the pro's have is plenty of skill.
[QUOTE=villa;50842892]I decided to check his stream out earlier tonight. He was in a debate with chat about how "Genji isn't OP, you just need to use Lucio and Zen to counter him, if you just follow the meta of using those 2 heros he's fine." Like, he's a pretty good player, but if your mindset on "x hero is fine you just need to make sure you always have these 2 heros no matter what on your team" then I don't think you're really in the right to talk about balance. Fighting the same comps over and over again while using the same comps over and over again gets pretty boring.
I mean, it took me longer than most but I'm also starting to get real sick of seeing Genji every game. It's like the game focused from who has the better Widow wins to who has the better Genji wins.[/QUOTE]
I mean it's not only that, have also double tank like Zarya- Dva\Winston\Reinhardt.
The major issue with Genji, it feels worse than McCree to balance, Genji's kit is a chore to handle it, can you blame all those good NinNin players really trying their hardest to not have Genji nerfed to the ground.
Do you want to remove the dash chain and replace with half cooldown on kill?
Do you want to nerf the dash damage? Or remove the animation cancel that makes you damage even more (unless they changed it, i don't remember almost any Genji changes lately)
Do you want him to be squishier?
Any changes with his ultimate?
I swear that hero along with Zenyatta are annoying to mess around (although i feel Zen's buff is not to be blamed due to Mercy's underpowered strenght)
I rather take buffs to his main counters - espechially Winston and Mei, they feel kinda weak atm
Every defense hero and Symmetra are completely pointless right now.
I'm annoyed that Genji is being picked pretty much always in my games, regardless if we or the enemy team are on offense or defense. I'm however, sort of on the fence about whether or not he should get a nerf. On one hand, I like his hero design and i recently got some green hair for him. On the other hand, seeing him every game gets annoying, and I also am a big Fan of Torbjorn who Genji can shit on a lot. So in the end it comes down to who do I like more: Genji or Torbjorn...
Who should i like more? Decide for me: Wrenches for the Dwarf, Electric Bolts for Ninja
On fire the entire match. Get transcendance healing card.
I wish I had a microphone. The stupidity in the lower SRs man
[QUOTE=cccino;50843210]On fire the entire match. Get transcendance healing card.[/QUOTE]
Being on fire with Zenyatta is too easy to be proud of it
That moment you get matched with the five stack who couldn't deal with you last game who leaves as soon as they see you.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;50843218]Being on fire with Zenyatta is too easy to be proud of it[/QUOTE]
I know, it was more about how the cards are stupid.
The moment when your team doesn't stack up as defense on Gibraltar and then gives up completely at 20 seconds left as they've gotten kited off and don't want to stay on the point.
Every game I join now goes shutdown due to some Twitch chat memers who spam kys and memes.
New game! This time we get people picking Bastion, Hanzo and Symmetra.
They go WTF dude, I tell them they are playing off meta picks and some of the worst tiered heroes in the game.
Then I just tell the enemy team the team comp, because fuck dealing with these people.
We insta lose, of course.
Sigh.
That moment when your teammates just outright suck
