I checked the wiki edit history, there was no source on it being non-canon. Probably why it was removed.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;50904532]They're also saying its an easter egg, so it isn't canon.[/QUOTE]
Which wiki are you using
[QUOTE=Tuskin;50904549]I checked the wiki edit history, there was no source on it being non-canon. Probably why it was removed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50904551]Which wiki are you using[/QUOTE]
None of the Wikis I use say it is non-canon.
I checked both fallout.wikia.com and fallout.gamepedia.com
Also who's in charge of managing canon right now? A lot of Beth people answer their twitters
I'd ask the original writers of FO2 not Beth.
I have no idea what you're talking about because I accidentally hit the last page, but if there's a quest revolving around something, I would consider it more than Easter egg. Doesn't mean it's cannon, but it's definitely more than just an Easter egg.
[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;50904574]I have no idea what you're talking about because I accidentally hit the last page, but if there's a quest revolving around something, I would consider it more than Easter egg. Doesn't mean it's cannon, but it's definitely more than just an Easter egg.[/QUOTE]
A quest in fallout 2 that makes you go back in time and break the vault 13 water chip, which it's breaking set fallout 1 in motion
[QUOTE=Tuskin;50904569]I'd ask the original writers of FO2 not Beth.[/QUOTE]
Probably best to ask both. Yeah the original could give intent but Beth has the control like Disney has on Star Wars
Xubs has a point. You don't have to do the quest, which means the chip breaks anyways, even without the Chosen One's interference.
[QUOTE=Xubs;50904594]
it has 0 impact on anything at all[/QUOTE]
The opening to fallout 1 is nothing at all?
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[QUOTE=Tuskin;50904599]Xubs has a point. You don't have to do the quest.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to do a lot of quests
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50904601]The opening to fallout 1 is nothing at all?[/QUOTE]
You don't have to do the quest though, which means[B] the chip breaks anyways without your interference.[/B]
Which means yes, there is no impact. Either way the chip breaks.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;50904607]You don't have to do the quest though, which means[B] the chip breaks anyways without your interference.[/B]
Which means yes, there is no impact. Either way the chip breaks.[/QUOTE]
that doesnt really make sense, though. does me not playing fallout 1 and 2 mean that they dont happen, because I didnt do any of those quests? if the easter egg was in the same game as the chip break, then yea, but its in a seperate game all together, where it doesnt matter if you do anything there or not because it literally cant affect the previous game.
Yeah player ignorance doesn't mean shit lol
You could just randomly claim any side quests as noncanon at that point, except since this one branches between games it'd have more validity
Edit:
I would've thought this would be dropped when you pointed out the noncanon claim was just a fan statement with no source
[QUOTE=Omolong;50904264]Do you have a mod that modifies the HUD, like DEF_UI? If so, you either need to disable the mod, or if you have DEF_UI, you need to download the update that was release not long ago.
Anyone that has DEF_UI should make sure that they download that update too, you'll need it for Nuka-World.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, that worked.
It does here, because doing the quest has no impact since the chip breaking happens anyway without you doing it.
It doesn't effect Fallout 1 in anyway.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;50901606]Oh boy the [sp]Hubologists[/sp] from Fallout 2 are back.
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Ugh, the Ak-47 is mirrored, so the charging handle is on the left side, and the shells eject from the left. Why does Beth do this.[/QUOTE]
We just need someone in character to question why the army vet keeps firing all his left handed weapons right handed.
[QUOTE=Naught;50904637]if the easter egg was in the same game as the chip break, then yea, but its in a seperate game all together, where it doesnt matter if you do anything there or not because it literally cant affect the previous game.[/QUOTE]
Which is the whole point we're getting it.
I can't believe we're actually having this discussion. It's both unnecessary and flat out [I]dumb.[/I] Right to the point where VenomousBeetle seems to be rating everyone who disagrees with him dumb.
I don't know how anyone could look at the guardians of forever easter egg in fallout 2 and go "timetravelling confirmed."
It's completely out of left field. It's out of place completely with the game tonally. It exists right along side the diner full of tongue-in-cheek jokes about the first game. It literally features an object from [I]star trek.[/I] It conflicts with themes of the first game if it were canon.
The only reason you seem to think it's canon is because there's a quest attached to it. Like, that's insanely arbitrary. I can think of plenty of games that reference joke/easter eggs in their gameplay systems without having to canonize them. Silent Hill has entire endings that require advanced puzzles and gameplay systems to be mastered that lead to aliens invading Earth. That doesn't mean aliens are canon in Silent Hill.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;50904652]It does here, because doing the quest has no impact since the chip breaking happens anyway without you doing it.
It doesn't effect Fallout 1 in anyway.[/QUOTE]
This is ridiculous lol
It's almost like trying to argue the prewar scenes in fallout 4 aren't canon because the games it takes place before happen anyways.
You never heard of backstory/exposition/prequels?
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[QUOTE=Tuskin;50904659]Which is the whole point we're getting it.[/QUOTE]
He means literally effect the game not canon wise
He's basically saying "no shit" since FO1 came first, the quest is retcon
Where else in the game universe are magical time traveling stones supported? Does any other single instance of any games explore time travel(proper time travel not hibernation)? Or is it just an easter egg in a pop-culture reference filled game?
Paradox of time travel lol
Literally doesn't mean anything dude
Watch Bill and Ted
You're applying theories of real life to fiction
Hey guys, the lonesome drifter or his mysterious magnum in Fallout New Vegas has no relation to Fallout 3's mysterious stranger because its never explicitly stated to us. Oh and Harold the Tree isn't the same Harold from the interplay fallouts because he never straight up tells us that he is the same entity who went through those events.
[sp]I'm being facetious, and saying that the box from the fallout 2 side quest isn't suppose to be the tardis is horseshit[/sp]
Pretty sure the ST references in FO1/FO2 are because they had the license at the time and thought it would be a funny thing to do.
Fuuuuuuck this is so dumb, can we just allow this guy to believe easter eggs are cannon even if it's just so we can stop having this discussion?
It seems a fair price to pay
[QUOTE=BusinessRed;50904692]Hey guys, the lonesome drifter or his mysterious magnum in Fallout New Vegas has no relation to Fallout 3's mysterious stranger because its never explicitly stated to us. Oh and Harold the Tree isn't the same Harold from the interplay fallouts because he never straight up tells us that he is the same entity who went through those events.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget macready
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50904401]Gonna need some citations where they say it's noncanon or just a meaningless Easter egg then, a teleporting call box isn't meeting the Doctor. They wouldn't even have rights to do that.
Also it's all "arbitrary" since Bethesda decides the canon now so if they want time travel tough titties
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And?[/QUOTE]
keep in mind that this isn't entirely contained in Fallout's universe
like many of the other encounters, they're jokes, pop culture references
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50904349]Except it's just a disappearing call box
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This is literally a short quest related to the plot of the previous game[/QUOTE]
It's actually just a special encounter. Not a quest. If you believe all special encounters to be canon you have to believe King Arthur's Knights are actually really there too.
Like would you really argue the Holy Hand Grenade is also a canon item.
or that the pip-boy is an actual person and you can meet the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse
or that planescape's universe is tied to fallout's
[url]http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Solar_Scorcher[/url]
Also what's so funny about the [b]Chosen One[/b] making sure events go the right way?
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50904712]Don't forget macready[/QUOTE]
Are you shitposting at this point, or are you legitimately saying that the MacCready in Fallout 4 and Fallout 3 aren't one in the same?
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