My slightly overclocked 2500k idles at ~47C with the stock cooling, on high load it's around 75-80C.
i know nothing about processors, how viable would an i7-3770 be for VR? Asking because I already had one and it fried, so I was just thinking of replacing it.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49455489]i know nothing about processors, how viable would an i7-3770 be for VR? Asking because I already had one and it fried, so I was just thinking of replacing it.[/QUOTE]
That CPU was released nearly 4 years ago and is barely being sold anywhere (especially with sane pricing). So far on Canada Ebay the cheapest available one actually costs more than a Core i5-4590.
Considering the age of that CPU you also need to consider the current functional lifespan of the motherboard you've been using.
I think It'll be better to buy a Core i5-4590 with a new compatible motherboard.
If your RAM is DDR3 then you can carry it over. Your current heatsink should theoretically be compatible but you'll need to check whether or not its physical dimensions could be an issue.
[QUOTE=Triot;49455898]That CPU was released nearly 4 years ago and is barely being sold anywhere (especially with sane pricing). So far on Canada Ebay the cheapest available one actually costs more than a Core i5-4590.
Considering the age of that CPU you also need to consider the current functional lifespan of the motherboard you've been using.
I think It'll be better to buy a Core i5-4590 with a new compatible motherboard.
If your RAM is DDR3 then you can carry it over. Your current heatsink should theoretically be compatible but you'll need to check whether or not its physical dimensions could be an issue.[/QUOTE]
A 3770 is better than a 4590 ya dip
[url]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=896&cmp[]=2234[/url]
[url]http://ark.intel.com/compare/65719,80815[/url]
CPUs age a lot better than GPUs
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49455489]i know nothing about processors, how viable would an i7-3770 be for VR? Asking because I already had one and it fried, so I was just thinking of replacing it.[/QUOTE]
It's absolutely fine.
I've yet to face a game that is bottlenecked by my 3770
[QUOTE=Humin;49456022]A 3770 is better than a 4590 ya dip
[url]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=896&cmp[]=2234[/url]
[url]http://ark.intel.com/compare/65719,80815[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Orkel;49456035]CPUs age a lot better than GPUs[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, you're not kidding. I had no idea my old-ass 2600k benchmarked higher than a 4590! Well that saves me a chunk of change.
[QUOTE=Triot;49455898]That CPU was released nearly 4 years ago and is barely being sold anywhere (especially with sane pricing). So far on Canada Ebay the cheapest available one actually costs more than a Core i5-4590.
Considering the age of that CPU you also need to consider the current functional lifespan of the motherboard you've been using.
I think It'll be better to buy a Core i5-4590 with a new compatible motherboard.
If your RAM is DDR3 then you can carry it over. Your current heatsink should theoretically be compatible but you'll need to check whether or not its physical dimensions could be an issue.[/QUOTE]
My mobo is brand new, no worries there.
Judging by the responses below yours, I'm gonna assume replacing my 3770 would be safe.
[QUOTE=*Freezorg*;49455260]my i7 920 2.6ghz shits itself if I try to overclock it at all
I should mention that its idle temperature is, allegadly, 60ºC, and that's after I installed a pretty damn good cooler because with the stock intel cooler it idled at 90ºC
I still think it's a problem with the temperature sensors because there's just no way that it reaches 60ºC that fast afer I turn it on.[/QUOTE]
Same here, got an 860. Doesn't help that my motherboard is a hunk of junk, not like these newfangled EUFI ones that have a "make it go faster" button.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49456141]My mobo is brand new, no worries there.
Judging by the responses below yours, I'm gonna assume replacing my 3770 would be safe.[/QUOTE]
If you wanted a new CPU, you'd need a new motherboard too. Different CPU sockets.
But your 3770 is fine, keep it for some more years.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49456141]My mobo is brand new, no worries there.
Judging by the responses below yours, I'm gonna assume replacing my 3770 would be safe.[/QUOTE]
The 3770 and 3770k seem to be going for around the same price right now just searching around.
Someone checked the css, this is what [url=http://i.imgur.com/VsC3mzT.jpg]the Rift page will look like after the countdown[/url].
Apparently leads to shop.oculus.com, so just F5 that :v:
[editline]5th January 2016[/editline]
The shop.oculus.com domain seems to be hosted on FB's server infrastructure, so it can probably handle the boatload of users that'll order their Rift the first minute.
Is Rift 1st, GPU upgrade later a good idea?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/691q1QA.png[/img]
the official Denny's social media crew are unreal
Palmer about not announcing price until preorders
[quote]A ton of stuff is going to be shown on the 6th, giving everybody a price in a vacuum makes no sense. Seriously, it is all of two days![/quote]
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3zfa1f/oculus_rift_preorders_to_open_on_january_6/cym60y0[/url]
A ton of stuff? It seems more VR game announcements are coming.
broculus should be oculus for bros
[QUOTE=Humin;49456022]A 3770 is better than a 4590 ya dip
[url]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=896&cmp[]=2234[/url]
[url]http://ark.intel.com/compare/65719,80815[/url][/QUOTE]
1) Synthetic benchmarks are not an accurate indicator of real world performance. In this situation PassMark is taking advantage of the extra threads and Hyper-Threading of the 3770 and including it into its final result. In games this isn't going to occur.
Let me list an example:
In the website you listed the i7-3770 outperforms the i5-3570.
[url]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=896&cmp[]=827[/url]
In a real world gaming scenario though they are quite close performing and sometimes nearly identical in performance:
[url]http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/05/01/intel-core-i5-3570k-cpu-review/6[/url]
[url]http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i5_3570k_review,21.html[/url]
(The -K processors are listed but are only just an unlocked variant. The non-overclocked results are listed.)
2) I understand that the 3770 can be a better performing processor but the Intel comparison chart you posted doesn't say anything regarding that aside from listing its features.
[del]3) Even in used condition, the cost of an equivalent CPU replacement for his current motherboard is quite high. If his motherboard has been in use for nearly 4 years, and the purchased second-hand processor was already in use for a while, then you would generally expect them to be prone to failure sooner compared to ones in brand new condition. For the price he's paying, I imagine it would probably be more cost effective in the long run to go new.[/del]
[QUOTE=Triot;49456818]1) Synthetic benchmarks are not an accurate indicator of real world performance. In this situation PassMark is taking advantage of the extra threads and Hyper-Threading of the 3770 and including it into its final result. In games this isn't going to occur.
Let me list an example:
In the website you listed the i7-3770 outperforms the i5-3570.
[url]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=896&cmp[]=827[/url]
In a real world gaming scenario though they are quite close performing and sometimes nearly identical in performance:
[url]http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/05/01/intel-core-i5-3570k-cpu-review/6[/url]
[url]http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i5_3570k_review,21.html[/url]
(The -K processors are listed but are only just an unlocked variant. The non-overclocked results are listed.)
2) I understand that the 3770 can be a better performing processor but the Intel comparison chart you posted doesn't say anything regarding that aside from listing its features.
3) Even in used condition, the cost of an equivalent CPU replacement for his current motherboard is quite high. If his motherboard has been in use for nearly 4 years, and the purchased second-hand processor was already in use for a while, then you would generally expect them to be prone to failure sooner compared to ones in brand new condition. For the price he's paying, I imagine it would probably be more cost effective to go new.[/QUOTE]
I already said my motherboard is new
Shit, I see this announcement right after I order a new monitor!
I like nixnax's ratings on my optimistic oculus posts throughout the thread. The thread's resident vive guy :v:
[QUOTE=Matto;49456912]Shit, I see this announcement right after I order a new monitor![/QUOTE]
trust me, a HMD won't replace the fidelity and resolution of a typical monitor for a very very long time.
well, if you are trying to have a decent res monitor in a vr space anyway.
Nvidia CES event is in around 20 minutes. Hopefully new Pascal GPU stuff and maybe the release dates.
[url]http://www.nvidia.com/object/ces2016.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Orkel;49456928]Nvidia CES event is in around 20 minutes. Hopefully new Pascal GPU stuff and maybe the release dates.
[url]http://www.nvidia.com/object/ces2016.html[/url][/QUOTE]
is pascal stuff just for server stuff AFAWK?
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49456876]I already said my motherboard is new[/QUOTE]
ah yeah, I just noticed your post now just after I finished posting mine.
[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;49456946]is pascal stuff just for server stuff AFAWK?[/QUOTE]
Pascal is the name of the new architecture for their next GPUs. Could include a server card, but from what I've read, it's mainly gaming focused.
[editline]4th January 2016[/editline]
Also, AMD announced and gave a basic overview of their next line. Previously codenamed "Greenland", keeping with the island naming conventions, it's now named "[url=http://www.anandtech.com/show/9886/amd-reveals-polaris-gpu-architecture]Polaris[/url]"; The name of the Northern Star.
[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;49456921]trust me, a HMD won't replace the fidelity and resolution of a typical monitor for a very very long time.
well, if you are trying to have a decent res monitor in a vr space anyway.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think I'm gonna keep the monitor and wait. It would be silly to jump in without seeing how the vive compares.
Self-driving cars
yay
[T]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26215793/ShareX/2016/01/2016-01-05_03-04-43.jpg[/T][T]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26215793/ShareX/2016/01/2016-01-05_03-27-11.jpg[/T]
Also they just compared the performance of that thing to 150 Macbook Pro :what:
Finally picked up my 980Ti and got it setup today! Downloaded 3DMark and hit up Firestrike:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/75HQ0Vm.png[/t]
My body (and PC) are ready, Palmer.
in 5 years we'll be like "9200 in firestrike? lmao"
[QUOTE=Triot;49456818]-snip-[/QUOTE]
Synthetic benchmarks give you the rawest numbers they possibly can, which is what you need to compare this cpu to the minimum reccommended specs for the Oculus Rift. You can't use games to compare processors, only figure out what's the bottleneck in the system, and for cpus that aren't even five years old and for a market that's been pretty much stagnant on performance increases since the second generation of core i's, these CPUs most certainly won't be bottlenecks and as such will give nearly identical results if they're using the same GPUs.
The chart was to show how close the specifications of the two CPUs are, you want him to upgrade to a generation that was barely 15% faster than the last which got recently replaced with a new generation which is nearly identical tests. Besides, buying a new motherboard and CPU for a computer instead of just a new CPU for a current computer has more problems than just being more expensive. A 3770 costs about $250 on ebay right now. He can buy that, install it and it's done. A 4590 with a motherboard is going to cost a little more, but you'll have to take apart everything to install it and windows does not like it when you replace the motherboard.
CPUs aren't like harddrives, a used CPU is either DOA or it'll work for the lifetime of the computer and there'll usually be very few inbetween. Besides, I'm seeing some very trusted ebay sellers right now selling them.
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